A reserve as in a large zoo like setting? Was it an unnatural setup?
Worst Mixed-Species Combinations?
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Younger hippos are able to get into the main savannah enclosure at Copenhagen Zoo.
Haliaeetus
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It was a large national park or reserve (I don't remember the name), but without any human care or intervention.
I talked about the anti-zoo campaigners because they consider often the zoos and captivity as bad for the animals health and welfare. Even the worst zoo in the world (unless they feed crocodiles with living buffaloes and hippos) may be less cruel than the scenes filmed in the documentary.
Are you just talking about a nature documentary filming wild animals? I am confused.
So am I.
Haliaeetus
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Yes. But it was really horrible to see. It isn't about single predation, but about mutilations and "torture" (for a human eye, it's really disturbing).
I strongly advise not to show this program to the children and even young teenagers (less than 14/15-year old).
So are you going to mention the name of this documentary or keep us in suspense?
Haliaeetus
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I don't know the English name, I've seen this program on French TV.
I think it was (soberly) called "Lions vs. Hippos".
Cassynatorium
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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Ouwehand zoo and i think? Antwerp have meerkats in their gorilla enclosures.
Gorillas are very mellow and are often kept with smaller more arboreal monkeys, yet i still think it's weird, not complaining or saying it's wrong, just.. weird.
Gorillas are very mellow and are often kept with smaller more arboreal monkeys, yet i still think it's weird, not complaining or saying it's wrong, just.. weird.
Cassynatorium
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Beekse Bergen has hippos mixed with nile lechwe, it still seems to be going fine
Gorillas and meerkats seem like a strange mix.
Strange mix at first sight, but the reason is pest (mice) control.
Sounds like a really good idea, enriching for the gorillas.
Don’t know if this mix has been mentioned before as I haven’t been on the forum for a few years.
At Howletts back in the 80s/90s we had the deer park exhibit with various mixed deer and antelope species. They all rubbed along quite well together and established their own little breeding herds. But ….. and a big but …. all went horribly wrong when our gorgeous male Nilgai (Neil) decided that the young Sambar deer needed to be expelled from the habitat.
We found one of the 3 Sambar yearlings dead one morning disembowelled with a mysterious horn sized puncture wound to his abdomen. No idea what had happened until we sat observing the habitat from the truck for a few hours and noticed the younger Sambar being tracked by the male Nilgai. He was absolutely determined to take out the other two yearlings. It was horrible to watch and the decision was taken (very quickly, and not by us) to cull the young Sambar as they were both males.
Early following morning I had to drive round and direct our marksman to the Sambar.
Large antelope plus large deer species not a great combination
At Howletts back in the 80s/90s we had the deer park exhibit with various mixed deer and antelope species. They all rubbed along quite well together and established their own little breeding herds. But ….. and a big but …. all went horribly wrong when our gorgeous male Nilgai (Neil) decided that the young Sambar deer needed to be expelled from the habitat.
We found one of the 3 Sambar yearlings dead one morning disembowelled with a mysterious horn sized puncture wound to his abdomen. No idea what had happened until we sat observing the habitat from the truck for a few hours and noticed the younger Sambar being tracked by the male Nilgai. He was absolutely determined to take out the other two yearlings. It was horrible to watch and the decision was taken (very quickly, and not by us) to cull the young Sambar as they were both males.
Early following morning I had to drive round and direct our marksman to the Sambar.
Large antelope plus large deer species not a great combination
Perhaps the deer and antelope could play if their home included roaming buffalo.
I think they may well all be home on the range at Pott Lympne these days x
On one hand, a single animal belonging to a Least Concern species held at c.70 European collections.
On the other hand, two animals belonging to a Vulnerable species held at 7 European collections.
Something about the arithmetic employed to resolve the situation seems off, sadly
though as you note the decision was taken at a higher level!Just shy of 11 years since your last post in fact! Nice to have you back
Absolutely, and thanks for the welcome back.
It was the 1990s, and yes, we would have removed the offending nilgai and his family and send them all down to Port Lympne
It was the 1990s, and yes, we would have removed the offending nilgai and his family and send them all down to Port Lympne
Still not as bad as the infamous South American (with dashes of North American and Asian) mixed exhibit at South Lakes Wild Animal Park which has been discussed elsewhere in this thread:
Spectacled Bear
South American Coati
Spider Monkey
Capybara
Lowland Tapir
Black-tailed Prairie Dog
Asian Short Clawed Otter
Didn't end well at all!