Worst Zoos

zebedee101

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In contrast to the 10 best zoos thread I though I would start a worst zoo visited thread and ask what makes a zoo a disappointment.

My nomination is Space Farms in Beemerville, NJ, USA, it claims to be the largest privately owned zoo in the world and has 500 animals of over 100 species.

The entrance is like an old hunting lodge that smells really musty. There are several stuffed specimens/heads on the wall showing previous generations of the Space families hunting trophies. Upstairs there are hundreds of guns on display, toys, glassware and biological curiousities including native Indian scalps that still have part of the flesh attached. You can purchase animal cookies and cracked corn along with your admission to feed the animals, there are no animals that you cannot feed. The exhibits for the lions, tigers and kodiak bear are some of the smallest I've seen, are surrounded by flies, waste spoiled food and are generally dirty and have too many animals in the alloted space. The jaguar, leopard and cougar enclosures are literally three sided boxes on legs with short mesh enclosures and maybe a fallen log as enrichment. Deer and hooved stock have larger enclosures but are generally devoid of vegetation with rock and slushy mud as the main substrate. The place seems to have an identity crisis there are a couple of sheds containing classic American cars, motorbikes, and carriages including hearses, in another old childrens toys and there is a mineral viewing room and a musical waterfeature, all are neglected and starting to fall apart. Primates are also in bare cages and and prone to the throwing of animal crackers and other objects. There are no specilaised houses but outside is a snake pit with several types of non-venoumous snake as well as a few vivariums with poisonous snakes, these are all fed live food and you can see the white mice in them trembling, awaiting their fate. The collection is mammal heavy and also has foxes, american badgers, bison, wolves, hyena, llama, yak, coyote as well as several deer species.

Being a zoo freak I can see good in nearly all zoos that I visit, sure there are exhibits I'd love to change, rules that drive me mad or charges I find outrageous but this is the one place I go and come away berated myself for visiting again thinking it will have got better since last time.
 
Places like this are what give all good zoos a bad name :mad:I am all for shutting down such facilities as this. I just did a search for this place, yuck! Surely the display of Native American skulls is illegal; the whole place should be, actually!

Ontario has some very cruddy zoos (including the now thankfully shut down Lickety Split ranch), especially in Northern Ontario. I am extremely picky with what zoos/animal collections I visit in this province. I pretty much stick to Toronto Zoo, Bird Kingdom (aviary), Friends of The Aviary (Hamilton, they're planning on a much larger facility that sounds like another Bird Kingdom), Wings of Paradise (butterfly conservatory), Zooz (has room for improvement but isn't what I'd call awful), and although I haven't visited in years, Jungle Cat World in Orono and African Lion Safari.

I would rate Marineland as one of the worst; the bear feeding, the capture of the beluga whales . . .

West Edmonton Mall for their awful flamingo display in the middle of a busy mall. This place is CAZA accredited! Unbelievable.
 
Places like this are what give all good zoos a bad name :mad:I am all for shutting down such facilities as this. I just did a search for this place, yuck! Surely the display of Native American skulls is illegal; the whole place should be, actually!

Ontario has some very cruddy zoos (including the now thankfully shut down Lickety Split ranch), especially in Northern Ontario. I am extremely picky with what zoos/animal collections I visit in this province. I pretty much stick to Toronto Zoo, Bird Kingdom (aviary), Friends of The Aviary (Hamilton, they're planning on a much larger facility that sounds like another Bird Kingdom), Wings of Paradise (butterfly conservatory), Zooz (has room for improvement but isn't what I'd call awful), and although I haven't visited in years, Jungle Cat World in Orono and African Lion Safari.

I would rate Marineland as one of the worst; the bear feeding, the capture of the beluga whales . . .

West Edmonton Mall for their awful flamingo display in the middle of a busy mall. This place is CAZA accredited! Unbelievable.


I actually live only 45 minutes away from Lickety Split. I've never visited but i've heard its god awful
 
There are probably twice as many bad zoos as there are good ones in the world, and even several notable zoological parks have their share of atrociously outdated enclosures. Guzoo in the Province of Alberta (Canada) is one that has a number of photos in the ZooChat gallery, but there are horrendous roadside zoos all over the world that should literally be bulldozed into oblivion.
 
I won´t take part in this debate, only take the opportunity to refer to a thread that I started some months ago:

http://www.zoochat.com/2/legislation-sweden-minimum-size-zoo-enclosures-24935/

There are plenty of other irritations in even the best zoos that aren't space related. I brought up this thread as in reponse to a thread on Longleat safari that only lets you drive around once. I thought if I'd driven all that way and got there and only then found out that info that I'd be pretty miserable. Disney Animal Kingdom only lets you view the African safari animals from a rickety safari vehicle Whn I want to be taking savannah pictures with a bigma and tripod! There are many things that detract from a zoo enthusiasts enjoyment of a collection and I would like to hear what peoples dealk breakers are.
 
There are probably twice as many bad zoos as there are good ones in the world, and even several notable zoological parks have their share of atrociously outdated enclosures. Guzoo in the Province of Alberta (Canada) is one that has a number of photos in the ZooChat gallery, but there are horrendous roadside zoos all over the world that should literally be bulldozed into oblivion.

I totally agree, but there will always be relatively bad and good zoos. The continuing improvements (not always) of zoo collections means that the standards set to be regarded as a good zoo ever increase and hopefully the atrociously outdated enclosures disappear along the way. How many of todays enclosures will stand the test of time?
 
I'm glad Australian laws make it exetremely hard to open something like these here. From what I've read about roadside zoos in the US and Canada our worst zoos seem like animal paradise's.
 
Kuwait Zoo is bad, one of the worst I've been to.

I've written a review of it and have lots of photos to upload - just waiting for Sim to create a gallery for it.

:)

Hix
 
Tropiquaria, Somerset
I stayed for 30 minutes.

Absolutely appauling enclosures. What looked like the air vent from the cafe came out in the meerkat enclosure making it reek of chip fat. Their Tapir and Lynx enclosures were woeful and their wallaby enclosure had to no grass. Not even concrete. Just dusty mud.
 
Blackduiker

My worst zoo experience was probably Las Vegas. With all the money rolling through that town, you'd think some of those big casino owners would contribute something the zoos way. Not that the zoo staff aren't dedicated, they just have very little to work with. And with all the surrounding desert, they have plenty of room to relocate.
 
I have been to Space Farms once--and I just don't get it. The zoo I work at is subject to strict guidelines by the USDA, and we are held accountable. Apparently there are no regulations that this place has to follow. I cannot go back there, it breaks my heart that the animals are in such small cages--there is no such thing as an "exhibit" at that place. Anyway, sorry for the rant, it is one of the worst places I have ever been to.
 
Many years agao I visited a place in San malo, France, called the Exoterrarium - absolutely shocking place with tiny enclosures. Another place I went to was a public menagerie kept in the basement of a building in Brussells - most of the enclosures were just glass-fronted wooden boxes 2ft x 2ft x 4ft high, and they kept a variety of animals in them including monkeys!

And it's been said in other threads, when I visited Chessington and Antwerp in the early 1980's I was not very impressed at all (especially with Antwerp as they had such a good reputation). However, I understand that these zoos are much better now.

:)

Hix
 
Places like this are what give all good zoos a bad name :mad:I am all for shutting down such facilities as this. I just did a search for this place, yuck! Surely the display of Native American skulls is illegal; the whole place should be, actually!

Ontario has some very cruddy zoos (including the now thankfully shut down Lickety Split ranch), especially in Northern Ontario. I am extremely picky with what zoos/animal collections I visit in this province. I pretty much stick to Toronto Zoo, Bird Kingdom (aviary), Friends of The Aviary (Hamilton, they're planning on a much larger facility that sounds like another Bird Kingdom), Wings of Paradise (butterfly conservatory), Zooz (has room for improvement but isn't what I'd call awful), and although I haven't visited in years, Jungle Cat World in Orono and African Lion Safari.

I would rate Marineland as one of the worst; the bear feeding, the capture of the beluga whales . . .

West Edmonton Mall for their awful flamingo display in the middle of a busy mall. This place is CAZA accredited! Unbelievable.
When was the last time you went to the mall, there have not been flamingoes there for over a year. Get your facts straight before you remark, yes it is CAZA accreduted and now after a massive amount of work by the staff there one of the top facilities in Canada. Your comments do not help they just breed ignorance.
 
Ignorance is annoying

Places like this are what give all good zoos a bad name :mad:I am all for shutting down such facilities as this. I just did a search for this place, yuck! Surely the display of Native American skulls is illegal; the whole place should be, actually!

Ontario has some very cruddy zoos (including the now thankfully shut down Lickety Split ranch), especially in Northern Ontario. I am extremely picky with what zoos/animal collections I visit in this province. I pretty much stick to Toronto Zoo, Bird Kingdom (aviary), Friends of The Aviary (Hamilton, they're planning on a much larger facility that sounds like another Bird Kingdom), Wings of Paradise (butterfly conservatory), Zooz (has room for improvement but isn't what I'd call awful), and although I haven't visited in years, Jungle Cat World in Orono and African Lion Safari.

I would rate Marineland as one of the worst; the bear feeding, the capture of the beluga whales . . .

West Edmonton Mall for their awful flamingo display in the middle of a busy mall. This place is CAZA accredited! Unbelievable.


When was the last time you went to the mall, there have not been flamingo's there for over a year. Get your facts straight before you remark, yes it is CAZA accredited and now after a massive amount of work by the staff there one of the top facilities in Canada. Your comments do not help they just breed ignorance.

:mad:
 
@timss: I have visited West Edmonton Mall many times in the past, including when they had baby tigers, baby black bears, macaws and pumas in glass tanks back in the mid-1980's. The recent flamingo enclosure was an abomination, the sea lion pool is adequate at best, and the Sea Life Caverns area is one of the worst aquariums I've seen in my life. The penguin display is puny and dowright shameful, and I have zero fear of verbally bashing that establishment. Huge mall with ****** animal exhibits.;)
 
@timss: I have visited West Edmonton Mall many times in the past, including when they had baby tigers, baby black bears, macaws and pumas in glass tanks back in the mid-1980's. The recent flamingo enclosure was an abomination, the sea lion pool is adequate at best, and the Sea Life Caverns area is one of the worst aquariums I've seen in my life. The penguin display is puny and dowright shameful, and I have zero fear of verbally bashing that establishment. Huge mall with ****** animal exhibits.;)

Glad to hear a "was" in regards to the flamingos!

tmss, I was going by the photos in the gallery of the said flamingo display. There is no reason for the flaming. The point behind my post was about the fact that there ARE substandard zoos and I'm sorry, but a mall hardly seems the ideal place for animals, wild or domestic (I hate mall pet stores), aside from service animals. Again, such establishments give the good ones a bad name.
 
When was the last time you went to the mall, there have not been flamingoes there for over a year. Get your facts straight before you remark, yes it is CAZA accreduted and now after a massive amount of work by the staff there one of the top facilities in Canada. Your comments do not help they just breed ignorance.

Meaghan was simply stating her opinion and is entitled to her opinion just as you are to yours, that is the whole purpose of a forum and it would be really boring if we all agreed on everything.

I did a search for the flamingoes at Edmonton mall, it seems they are on temporary breeding loan at Winnipeg, note the word temporary. This may not be the case, but I'm reading it from different sources, it may now be permenent, but because it was the case when reported it does not make these news services ignorant. Just because the staff work hard (maybe you work there?) doesn't make it a good zoo. Many people here dont like zoos combined with a theme park, let alone one at a mall. I'm a total advocate of zoos and kids being introduced to animals at a young age, but dont like to see zoos in general being critisized because of the ones that dont meet a high standard. There seems to be a lot of negative comments about the place on the internet, I'm sure if there hadn't been negativity, then the improvements would not have followed. If it is one of the top establishments in Canada (your opinion), it does not neccessarily follow it is a high class establishment, just that the standards in Canada cannot be very high (I'm sure this isn't the case). If you had come on this forum and stated that the flamingoes had gone and that the zoo was much improved than I would have had a positive view of the zoo. To come on and just make a personal attack is just wrong and in my opinion gives no credibility to your case.

If you had read any of Meaghans comments on other threads you would have noticed that she has extremely balanced views, ignorant is the last thing I'd describe her as, take the blinkers off and see that there is room for improvement in any collection
 
Anyway, from what I've visited, Frejus Zoo in France. Elephant paddocks the size of an ordinary back garden, bison and nile hippo mixed in a tiny yard with a concrete wall and a white rhino in a similar enclosure with nothing but mud. And the leopard exhibit was looked more suitable for tamarins.
 
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