ZSL London Zoo Would like tips for London and Whipsnade

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My family will be traveling to London during the last week of November to see family. I will be visiting London Zoo. As well, I hope to put aside one day to visit Whipsnade Zoo using an Uber to go there.

Is there anything I should keep in mind while here?
What exhibits are top priority/to be skipped?
 
Might be worth you knowing that from the 26th November for 7 days, the Big Cat Sanctuary is having special Xmas open days. Definitely worth a look if you get the chance.
 
London: The current Reptile House will be closing in a few months.
Whipsnade: The Aquarium has many species rarely seen in ZTL collections
 
My family will be traveling to London during the last week of November to see family. I will be visiting London Zoo. As well, I hope to put aside one day to visit Whipsnade Zoo using an Uber to go there.

Is there anything I should keep in mind while here?
What exhibits are top priority/to be skipped?


An Uber from London to Whipsnade (having just looked it up this morning) will be about £75. It will probably be a lot cheaper to get the train to Luton and then a local mini-cab service (of which there are lots) to take you to and from the zoo. Additionally, I doubt that Uber is functional in rural Bedfordshire, so you could get there and then get stuck!

I don't go to Whipsnade very much but can give a few tips on London:

The Bird House is having something of a renaissance with some choice species including spotted laughing-thrush, collared hill partridge, and collared trogon. They also have an amusing mechanical clock outside.

The Reptile House, though depleted and awaiting closure, is still one of the gems with a lot of interesting species, including Chinese giant salamander.

The tiger cubs should be on show, though you may need a couple of attempts to see them.

It would be worth getting to London when it opens and pre-booking tickets, if going on a weekend, as it can get extremely busy.

And, if you are a birder, the Chat Enclosure just inside the gates of Regent's Park is a migrant hotspot (though a little late in the season now). There is also a solid waterfowl collection on the lake.
 
I notice the OP's location is New York, so I am not sure what they may or may not be familiar with. The things I regard as highlights a typically so because of their rarity within the UK. Anyway, some things that might be worth looking out for.

- They have recently had a baby elephant.
- As the OP is based in New York they might be less familiar with European species. Whipsnade does have a European section with lynx, wild boar, European bison, European brown bear and wolverines.
- They have the only gaur in the UK.

If you do go to Whipsnade give yourself the whole day. The site is huge and some of the paddocks are enormous.
 
I should point out that my earlier comments all applied to Whipsnade. Managed to miss that in the post, oops.
 
I'd definitely follow the tip on getting to Whipsnade by train vs uber depending on timings.

Trainline here lets you look up journeys, find the right stations and book online

Trains Luton to London | Cheap Tickets & Times | Trainline

Whipsnade is a big site and will need all day. Fortunately it is also really a circuit with a cut through and so easy to follow the map and signs, so there's nothing to miss out as such to get to somewhere else faster.

The brown bear has gone into hibernation but the wolverines are on the other side of the area there and it's on the way to the penguins so you'll pass the paddock anyway - no time to save there.

As well as the baby elephant which should be a real highlight, there is also a recent scimitar horned oryx calf to see in the paddock near the hippos.

I would definitely recommend you go on the Whipsnade train at least once if this will be the only visit you make as it goes through the passage through asia area and is the only way to see some of the hoofstock and get the best views of the przewalski's horses and camels.

To make the most of the day I would have a look at the timings board directly opposite the entry doors as you arrive into the zoo as that will have the times of talks, feedings and the bird show and has the map right next to it too. They no longer give out paper maps though there is one in the guidebook, worth taking a picture of the most recent one.

I'd review the weather and determine the route based on that as the indoor aquarium / reptile house etc can be useful to target as shelters with fun things to do if is raining! On your circuit/s the view cafe at the top of the park and far side of the rhinos can be a useful stopping point for refreshments etc and has some lovely views of the downs, can be a great lunch spot.
 
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As a point to note, the rail line between London and Luton will be closed for a few weekends in November and December for planned engineering works, so best to double check you're not planning on travelling on one of those days.
 
I would recommend heading to the nocturnal house first thing when visiting London. I know they've lost a fair number of species since I was last in the UK but there will still be a number of animals very rare or entirely absent from US zoos there. In particular, Grey Slender Loris is a treat.

Isn't much of Whipsnade a drive-through safari? I know many bits can be walked around but that is a massive amount of walking when truly it's meant for cars. Some areas will also not be visible without a vehicle, no?

Additionally, I doubt that Uber is functional in rural Bedfordshire, so you could get there and then get stuck!

I want to double-down on this point! Ubers do not work the same way in Europe as they do in America! You can't just get anywhere at any time.

~Thylo
 
I would recommend heading to the nocturnal house first thing when visiting London. I know they've lost a fair number of species since I was last in the UK but there will still be a number of animals very rare or entirely absent from US zoos there. In particular, Grey Slender Loris is a treat.

Isn't much of Whipsnade a drive-through safari? I know many bits can be walked around but that is a massive amount of walking when truly it's meant for cars. Some areas will also not be visible without a vehicle, no?



I want to double-down on this point! Ubers do not work the same way in Europe as they do in America! You can't just get anywhere at any time.

~Thylo

Whipsnade isn't a drive through as such and although cars can be taken inside the zoo (and then parked in designated areas as it's so big) you can pretty easily see all of it on foot if you have a day. The cost to take a car in (even with a membership discount) is quite high so most visitors don't. There are also a few roads where you cannot take a car (down past the pandas and otters, down to the main access for the lion house and down to the giraffes) so even with a car you can't drive to everything.

The Whipsnade train allows people to see the drive through passage through asia area (and some other places you can only see an angle of from the train) if they don't have a car.

The Great Whipsnade Railway
 
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Is there anything I should keep in mind while here?
What exhibits are top priority/to be skipped?
I'll try and help answer those questions regarding London.

When you enter, I would recommend heading directly to one of the zoo's three big buildings, Tiny Giants, Blackburn Pavilion and the Clore (labelled on the map as 'Night Life' and 'Rainforest Life'). Tiny Giants is amazing, possibly the greatest invertebrate house in Europe, but it is difficult to appreciate the later that you leave it due to crowds. However if you are not interested in invertebrates, then you don't have to prioritise it. Blackburn Pavilion is a nice bird house in a Victorian building, with a nice atmosphere that is also better enjoyed when the building is mostly empty. There are also a few nice rarities, if you are interested in those, such as Scarlet-chested Sunbird in the main walkthrough, and Splendid Sunbird and Collared Trogon in the smaller, second walkthrough. The Clore isn't a very high quality enclosure, but it is packed with rarities, such as Potto, Moholi Galago, Grey Slender Loris, nominate Southern Tamandua and Narrow-striped Boky.

Regardless of when you chose to visit the Clore, I would recommend you enter through the Lemur Walkthrough, which finishes in the building. This is because the walkthrough is one-way, and is thus the only way to see the indoor holdings for the lemurs which is home to the zoo's Aye-Aye! This takes you out into the main lobby where you can chose to visit either the nocturnal or rainforest section first. If the Clore is the first exhibit that you visited, then prioritise the nocturnal animals (on the lower level) to evade crowds. If not, then it really doesn't matter. There are a lot of nice species in the Clore, with Potto and Grey Slender Loris being especially worthwhile.

Monkey Valley is the zoo's newest exhibit - an impressive renovation of the historical Snowdon Aviary that serves as a Colobus walkthrough. It is a unique experience, but the queues are absurd, you are guided by keepers when inside the enclosure, and the walkthrough is closed for the last two hours of the day so that the monkeys can sleep. I would recommend checking the enclosure, as it *is* amazing, but if the queues are too long, then it is probably not worth it...

If you want to see the zoo's Sumatran Tiger cubs, then it is unlikely (although possible) that you will see them from the canopy viewing area. Instead, go up onto the boardwalk towards the zoo's gibbon enclosure, where there is a raised viewing of their secondary habitat. The cubs are more often seen here, especially climbing on the rocks that line the back of the enclosure.

As for what areas to skip?

Well, for starters, there isn't really anything worth seeing in either of the zoo's two children's zoos (Animal Adventure and the Ambika Paul Children's Zoo). Personally speaking, I also recommend skipping Meet the Monkeys (a squirrel monkey walkthrough) and the Komodo Dragon House, as recent renovations have left them as inconvenient dead ends, and there is little that stands out. The Reptile House is closing soon, and as such many species have already left, but there are still nice species in there and its impending closure only makes seeing it more worthwhile in my opinion. However, it is really your choice as to what is worth skipping.

I hope this helps! :)
 
I'll try and help answer those questions regarding London.

When you enter, I would recommend heading directly to one of the zoo's three big buildings, Tiny Giants, Blackburn Pavilion and the Clore (labelled on the map as 'Night Life' and 'Rainforest Life'). Tiny Giants is amazing, possibly the greatest invertebrate house in Europe, but it is difficult to appreciate the later that you leave it due to crowds. However if you are not interested in invertebrates, then you don't have to prioritise it. Blackburn Pavilion is a nice bird house in a Victorian building, with a nice atmosphere that is also better enjoyed when the building is mostly empty. There are also a few nice rarities, if you are interested in those, such as Scarlet-chested Sunbird in the main walkthrough, and Splendid Sunbird and Collared Trogon in the smaller, second walkthrough. The Clore isn't a very high quality enclosure, but it is packed with rarities, such as Potto, Moholi Galago, Grey Slender Loris, nominate Southern Tamandua and Narrow-striped Boky.

Regardless of when you chose to visit the Clore, I would recommend you enter through the Lemur Walkthrough, which finishes in the building. This is because the walkthrough is one-way, and is thus the only way to see the indoor holdings for the lemurs which is home to the zoo's Aye-Aye! This takes you out into the main lobby where you can chose to visit either the nocturnal or rainforest section first. If the Clore is the first exhibit that you visited, then prioritise the nocturnal animals (on the lower level) to evade crowds. If not, then it really doesn't matter. There are a lot of nice species in the Clore, with Potto and Grey Slender Loris being especially worthwhile.

Monkey Valley is the zoo's newest exhibit - an impressive renovation of the historical Snowdon Aviary that serves as a Colobus walkthrough. It is a unique experience, but the queues are absurd, you are guided by keepers when inside the enclosure, and the walkthrough is closed for the last two hours of the day so that the monkeys can sleep. I would recommend checking the enclosure, as it *is* amazing, but if the queues are too long, then it is probably not worth it...

If you want to see the zoo's Sumatran Tiger cubs, then it is unlikely (although possible) that you will see them from the canopy viewing area. Instead, go up onto the boardwalk towards the zoo's gibbon enclosure, where there is a raised viewing of their secondary habitat. The cubs are more often seen here, especially climbing on the rocks that line the back of the enclosure.

As for what areas to skip?

Well, for starters, there isn't really anything worth seeing in either of the zoo's two children's zoos (Animal Adventure and the Ambika Paul Children's Zoo). Personally speaking, I also recommend skipping Meet the Monkeys (a squirrel monkey walkthrough) and the Komodo Dragon House, as recent renovations have left them as inconvenient dead ends, and there is little that stands out. The Reptile House is closing soon, and as such many species have already left, but there are still nice species in there and its impending closure only makes seeing it more worthwhile in my opinion. However, it is really your choice as to what is worth skipping.

I hope this helps! :)

Worth noting that although officially the lemur walk-through is the only way to access the ayeaye exhibit, it is in fact very easy to go through the 'exit' doors from the Clore entrance and skip the walk-through, which is what I tend to do.
 
I'll try and help answer those questions regarding London.

When you enter, I would recommend heading directly to one of the zoo's three big buildings, Tiny Giants, Blackburn Pavilion and the Clore (labelled on the map as 'Night Life' and 'Rainforest Life'). Tiny Giants is amazing, possibly the greatest invertebrate house in Europe, but it is difficult to appreciate the later that you leave it due to crowds. However if you are not interested in invertebrates, then you don't have to prioritise it. Blackburn Pavilion is a nice bird house in a Victorian building, with a nice atmosphere that is also better enjoyed when the building is mostly empty. There are also a few nice rarities, if you are interested in those, such as Scarlet-chested Sunbird in the main walkthrough, and Splendid Sunbird and Collared Trogon in the smaller, second walkthrough. The Clore isn't a very high quality enclosure, but it is packed with rarities, such as Potto, Moholi Galago, Grey Slender Loris, nominate Southern Tamandua and Narrow-striped Boky.

Regardless of when you chose to visit the Clore, I would recommend you enter through the Lemur Walkthrough, which finishes in the building. This is because the walkthrough is one-way, and is thus the only way to see the indoor holdings for the lemurs which is home to the zoo's Aye-Aye! This takes you out into the main lobby where you can chose to visit either the nocturnal or rainforest section first. If the Clore is the first exhibit that you visited, then prioritise the nocturnal animals (on the lower level) to evade crowds. If not, then it really doesn't matter. There are a lot of nice species in the Clore, with Potto and Grey Slender Loris being especially worthwhile.

Monkey Valley is the zoo's newest exhibit - an impressive renovation of the historical Snowdon Aviary that serves as a Colobus walkthrough. It is a unique experience, but the queues are absurd, you are guided by keepers when inside the enclosure, and the walkthrough is closed for the last two hours of the day so that the monkeys can sleep. I would recommend checking the enclosure, as it *is* amazing, but if the queues are too long, then it is probably not worth it...

If you want to see the zoo's Sumatran Tiger cubs, then it is unlikely (although possible) that you will see them from the canopy viewing area. Instead, go up onto the boardwalk towards the zoo's gibbon enclosure, where there is a raised viewing of their secondary habitat. The cubs are more often seen here, especially climbing on the rocks that line the back of the enclosure.

As for what areas to skip?

Well, for starters, there isn't really anything worth seeing in either of the zoo's two children's zoos (Animal Adventure and the Ambika Paul Children's Zoo). Personally speaking, I also recommend skipping Meet the Monkeys (a squirrel monkey walkthrough) and the Komodo Dragon House, as recent renovations have left them as inconvenient dead ends, and there is little that stands out. The Reptile House is closing soon, and as such many species have already left, but there are still nice species in there and its impending closure only makes seeing it more worthwhile in my opinion. However, it is really your choice as to what is worth skipping.

I hope this helps! :)

Worth mentioning that he may not want to skip the squirrel monkeys as the zoo keeps Bolivian Squirrel Monkey, a taxa not found in the US.

~Thylo
 
Thanks guys. So for London, how many hours would you say constitutes a good trip to the zoo (allowing me time to see everything)
 
Thanks guys. So for London, how many hours would you say constitutes a good trip to the zoo (allowing me time to see everything)

You could probably see absolutely everything in about 2 1/2 hours or so. I'm a very quick zoo visitor, though.
 
You could probably see absolutely everything in about 2 1/2 hours or so. I'm a very quick zoo visitor, though.
Well I can see you're a London native so I imagine you get what you wanna see done pretty quick. Maybe 3 1/2 or 4 hours for me?

And as a side note, what are some good places to grab lunch around the zoo?
 
Well I can see you're a London native so I imagine you get what you wanna see done pretty quick. Maybe 3 1/2 or 4 hours for me?

And as a side note, what are some good places to grab lunch around the zoo?
I think that 4 hours is a reasonable time for a first-time visitor, although I would recommend that you allow for slightly longer to be safe.

The Terrace Restaurant is, in my opinion, one of the best zoo restaurants in the UK, and I would certainly recommend it for lunch.
 
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