Would you believe that I have never...

Thylo, I have done a fair bit of travelling to countries and cities where Indian rhinos are kept, but I have never seen them for one reason or the other. So that's analogous to you saying "Can you believe that I visited Australia but didn't see a platypus?".

zooboy, yes, one day I will make it to Taronga, but knowing my luck, it will probably be off display.
 
Thylo, I have done a fair bit of travelling to countries and cities where Indian rhinos are kept, but I have never seen them for one reason or the other. So that's analogous to you saying "Can you believe that I visited Australia but didn't see a platypus?".

zooboy, yes, one day I will make it to Taronga, but knowing my luck, it will probably be off display.

That is true and I'm sorry that you've missed Indian Rhinos so many times. I think I've seen a total of three, all at Bronx. Two adults and one child.

...seen a Common Hippopotamus (in any recent years I mean).

~Thylo:cool:
 
That is true and I'm sorry that you've missed Indian Rhinos so many times. I think I've seen a total of three, all at Bronx. Two adults and one child.

...seen a Common Hippopotamus (in any recent years I mean).

~Thylo:cool:

No way! I see hippos every couple weeks when I visit my zoo.

I have never seen an African elephant.

... I have never driven a left-hand-drive car or driven on the WRONG side of the road. ;)
 
But playing along with this thread.


Would you believe that I have never bought any of my firearms through the background check system? Mine are either inherited or bought through private sellers.

And for the record because I'm sure someone will ask I'm a certified school teacher which requires the same background check (or actually tougher because it requires fingerprinting) so I am not a criminal or anything. Its more of a weird coincidence.
 
But playing along with this thread.


Would you believe that I have never bought any of my firearms through the background check system? Mine are either inherited or bought through private sellers.

And for the record because I'm sure someone will ask I'm a certified school teacher which requires the same background check (or actually tougher because it requires fingerprinting) so I am not a criminal or anything. Its more of a weird coincidence.

So you can buy a gun through a private seller? Does he check if you have a gun license? Do you need a gun license at all to own a gun?

zooboy, yes, Taronga is on the radar for 2013 for a day trip when it gets colder and isn't raining.
 
So you can buy a gun through a private seller? Does he check if you have a gun license? Do you need a gun license at all to own a gun?

zooboy, yes, Taronga is on the radar for 2013 for a day trip when it gets colder and isn't raining.

No gun licensing in America. Alabama is also an open carry state so the only "license" I need in a concealed carry permit (ie carry the weapon in my vehicle) and the county sheriff is a friend of mine so that took about 2 hours.

When you buy from a professional dealer ie a gunstore or even at a gun show then you go through the federal background check system. But yeah none of my guns the government knows about. In fact all of my rifles are pre 1986 (inheritance) so they have never been registered to anyone.

Like I said though all my firearms were either inherited from my father/grandfather or were bought from a friend.
 
No gun licensing in America. Alabama is also an open carry state so the only "license" I need in a concealed carry permit (ie carry the weapon in my vehicle) and the county sheriff is a friend of mine so that took about 2 hours.

When you buy from a professional dealer ie a gunstore or even at a gun show then you go through the federal background check system. But yeah none of my guns the government knows about. In fact all of my rifles are pre 1986 (inheritance) so they have never been registered to anyone.

Like I said though all my firearms were either inherited from my father/grandfather or were bought from a friend.

Ok, so no license is needed to walk the streets of Alabama with a pistol on your waist like a gunslinger, and an M16 on your back like Rambo, but a federal background check is needed? Is that correct, and how long does a background check take?

It sounds like before 1986 Alabama was still the 'wild west' (or wild south). Scary!

How many guns do you have? What are they? I quite like guns, believe it or not, I just don't think they should be in private hands for 'protection'. I use to shoot shotguns (12 and 16 gauge), and a .22 rifle, and the gunslinger-type .357 rifles. I don't remember the models, but I do remember spending time cleaning them. Good times! I couldn't hit the target for squat though.
 
Ok, so no license is needed to walk the streets of Alabama with a pistol on your waist like a gunslinger, and an M16 on your back like Rambo, but a federal background check is needed? Is that correct, and how long does a background check take?

It sounds like before 1986 Alabama was still the 'wild west' (or wild south). Scary!

How many guns do you have? What are they? I quite like guns, believe it or not, I just don't think they should be in private hands for 'protection'. I use to shoot shotguns (12 and 16 gauge), and a .22 rifle, and the gunslinger-type .357 rifles. I don't remember the models, but I do remember spending time cleaning them. Good times! I couldn't hit the target for squat though.

A federal background check takes about 20 minutes. Its a call into a system that runs your name against NICS (if you ever watched CSI that gets brought up in basically every episode) which is a computer database that runs your name against criminal records etc.

1986 is brought up a lot because people can purchase machine guns/automatic rifles made before that year but only after a extensive, and expensive process. And there only so many of those guns.

I open carry most of the time when I'm not at school of course. My carry gun is my grandfathers M1911A1 - his service pistol from the Army Air Corps/US Air Force. Its had a lot of work done to it over the years. .45ACP packs a punch that I prefer (I'm a bigger guy so I always think that if you do have to ever fire you put as much power down range with the least amount of bullets hence I prefer larger calibers no 9mms for me) But the best gun for self defense is one you never have to fire.

But my firearms

5 Rifles
Remington Woodmaster 30-06 model 742 Carbine - semi-automatic
Remington Speedmaster .22 - semi-automatic
Remington .243 model 770 - Bolt Action
Remington .308 model 750 Carbine - semi-automatic
Ruger 10/22 - .22 - semi-automatic

4 Blackpowder - IE old fashioned muzzleloading guns. These are for hunting (special blackpowder seasons like for bow-hunters) and for the challenge of hunting/shooting with them.

Reproduction Hawken Rifle - 50 caliber
Inline 6 - 50 caliber
One "competition" Rifle - 50 caliber - has brass accents.
Modern Muzzleloader (talk about a contradiction) - 50 caliber - has synthetic stock like a military weapon. Its the only blackpowder gun I have with a safety.

3 handguns
Colt M1911 - .45 ACP - semi-automatic
SW Model 686 - .357 - double action revolver
Ruger .22 - semi-automatic

6 shotguns

Remington model 870 woodmaster - 12 gauge - pump action - long barrel for dove/duck/deer hunting
Remington model 870 synthetic Tactical - 12 gauge - pump action - short barrel with spike shroud for home defense.
Mossberg Persuader Tactical - 12 gauge - pump action - short barrel with shroud, extended tube magazine, pistol grip for home defense.
Rossi - 12 gauge - break action - double barrel
Remington Youth Model - .410 gauge - break action
Benelli Nova - 12 gauge - pump action - Skeet shooting/Sporting Clays gun.

Not really firearms but I include them often we keep a crossbow and a compound bow as well.

Also we keep somewhere between 2000-4000 rounds of ammo assorted.

Like I've said before after the April 27th 2011 tornadoes when you couldn't call the cops (we were out of power for 10 days) had we had an incident with a prowler I would have been thanking God I could have defended my family. My father as y'all know is handicapped and is on some mighty strong painkillers. We've had prowlers before and I was able to protect my family and property. Luckily nothing happened when I couldn't call the cops. That is something I guess is uniquely American but even in 2013 I consider myself a yeoman farmer. Its the tradition of owning this land, and farming it, and being a rifleman able to protect it if need be is something I take seriously.
 
Dude, you have an arsenal! That's 18 guns in total! Are you a gun collector, or you think you need 18 guns to protect yourself? If it's the latter, surely just a couple will suffice....
 
No gun licensing in America. Alabama is also an open carry state so the only "license" I need in a concealed carry permit (ie carry the weapon in my vehicle) and the county sheriff is a friend of mine so that took about 2 hours.

When you buy from a professional dealer ie a gunstore or even at a gun show then you go through the federal background check system. But yeah none of my guns the government knows about. In fact all of my rifles are pre 1986 (inheritance) so they have never been registered to anyone.

Like I said though all my firearms were either inherited from my father/grandfather or were bought from a friend.

I can't think of anything worse than living in a place where you felt the need to wear a gun openly to feel safe.

....ever been to America.
 
Most farmers I know in the UK do have various guns themselves and if tschandler21 is a small holder and farms land then maybe not too different in that respect. However it seems peculiar to me that many Americans feel the need to carry a gun at all. The more people who have guns equals the more people who are killed by guns. There are no where near amount of guns per 100 people in countries like the UK, France, Australia, Spain, Japan etc,, in these countries very few people are killed by guns, which simply says that if you reduce the number of guns in the US then you reduce the number of deaths caused by guns. If you don’t have a gun then you can’t kill someone with a gun. I feel sorry for people who believe that they need to carry a gun to feel safe in their own country, it must be a dangerous country.
 
zooboy, yes, Taronga is on the radar for 2013 for a day trip when it gets colder and isn't raining.

Dubbo isn't quite as close to Sydney as Werribee is to Melbourne. Even if you were staying in Sydney it'd be close to a 10 hour round trip.

Just out of coincidence I was going to say that my "I've never" is that I've never shot a gun. My dad has one for the farm and shoots rabbits occasionally but I've never been that interested in it and now I'm at a point where I'd like to keep it up until I die.
 
Most farmers I know in the UK do have various guns themselves and if tschandler21 is a small holder and farms land then maybe not too different in that respect. However it seems peculiar to me that many Americans feel the need to carry a gun at all. The more people who have guns equals the more people who are killed by guns. There are no where near amount of guns per 100 people in countries like the UK, France, Australia, Spain, Japan etc,, in these countries very few people are killed by guns, which simply says that if you reduce the number of guns in the US then you reduce the number of deaths caused by guns. If you don’t have a gun then you can’t kill someone with a gun. I feel sorry for people who believe that they need to carry a gun to feel safe in their own country, it must be a dangerous country.

America doesn't have a gun problem it has a demographics problem specifically a gang related problm. High murder rates in the US are in areas with large African American populations and that are urbanized. It isn't the rural landowner or hunter committing the murders, it is the gang member and even in places like Chicago its African American gang members specifically.

Literally the only way you are going to get guns off the street is go door to door confiscating them from the law abiding. Then only the criminals will have them anyway. The sheer amount of guns in the US (somewhere around 1 to 1 with people) means that confiscation will do nothing but embolden the criminals and disarm the innocent.
 
Dude, you have an arsenal! That's 18 guns in total! Are you a gun collector, or you think you need 18 guns to protect yourself? If it's the latter, surely just a couple will suffice....

Where is all this talk of "need" from? Does anyone around here buy anything because they just wanted it? I mean we aren't talk Marx and Engels here are we?

No I don't feel I need any certain amount of firearms to protect myself. Each one of mine have different functions and uses. Some I hunt with, some are handy for home defense, some for sporting clays and shooting skeet, some are just fun to shoot.
 
I can't think of anything worse than living in a place where you felt the need to wear a gun openly to feel safe.

....ever been to America.

there are good places and bad. And I don't carry because I don't feel safe. I carry usually if I am going to go shoot at the range that day, or I'm out working on the land and I feel I may see a coyote or a snake then I can practice my shot on those.
 
I thought you hid them in 18 different locations so if a bandit broke into your house while you were on the toilet, then you would have a gun nearby just in case.

I worked and lived in a very tough third world country for a number of years that had a murder rate and kidnapping rate that made Mexico look like Utopia. I always wanted a hand gun, but I never qualified to own one because I was not a businessman, I had no connections, and I wasn't prepared to pay a bribe. Also, it was normal for security guards, Off duty policemen, and businessmen to be specifically targeted for their firearms. The latter meant that if I did get a gun, I would have been an even bigger target for criminals. Gun crime is one of the reasons I left my job there.
 
I'm going to step in and moderate. Let's keep the discussion away from this controversial topic please.
 
I'm going to step in and moderate. Let's keep the discussion away from this controversial topic please.

Why? Everyone is being civil, and we discuss other controversial topics here like global warming, hunting, conservation techniques, wildlife poaching to feed China etc. What's so special about discussing guns?
 
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