Zion Wildlife Gardens yet another big cat accident at Zion

here's a couple more news items. I've highlighted a few sentences. You really do have to wonder why when they knew this particular tiger was easily spooked they were still going into the cage with it (well, we know why but its still a stupid practice to have). In another news item from yesterday the cage was described as resembling a large dog kennel by the police.
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The South African animal keeper mauled to death at the Zion Wildlife Park in Whangarei had rescued a colleague from the jaws of the same 260kg tiger in February.
In that attack, Dalu Mncube, Zion Wildlife Gardens' most experienced big-cat keeper, plunged his fingers into the gap between the tiger's 75mm-long teeth, before using a fire extinguisher to force the animal to release his Australian colleague, Demetri Price.
But there was no similar rescue for him yesterday, when the tiger tore into his abdomen and lower leg, while two keepers were cleaning the tiger enclosure.
Northland police spokeswoman Sarah Kennett said that despite the best efforts of the other keeper, the tiger wouldn't let go, and Mr Mncube died at the scene before an ambulance arrived.
Staff shot the tiger, Abu, to recover Mr Mncube's body.
Eight foreign tourists on a tour of the park witnessed the attack, and an Auckland man who was visiting the park with two friends from the United Kingdom said: "It was very, very frightening."
Some of the tourists were understood to be French-speaking New Caledonians.
Mr Mncube said at the time of the February attack that it was over before he knew it, though Mr Price suffered four bites.
"I never got scared," Mr Mncube told The New Zealand Herald: "You stay nice and calm. If I got scared and panicked we could have had two casualties."
Mr Mncube said all keepers knew to keep calm if an animal bit.
Abu, the park's biggest Bengal white tiger, was not one of the tigers that interact with the public because of his tendency to get frightened.
Mr Price said the attack on him occurred when Abu got scared while he was being moved and bit him four times because the cat feared he was being cornered.
Abu was biting his knee, and he had him in "tooth block" hold, holding the tiger's lips over his teeth, when Mr Mncube stepped in.
"If you're doing this type of work and you haven't thought about it happening then you shouldn't be doing your job," said Mr Price after being treated for his injuries.
Mr Mncube's friend and colleague, Glen Holland, described him as "larger than life".
"People enjoyed being with him, people enjoyed being around him, he had an incredible ability with the cats, he said. "The best that we've seen at the park."
"Dalu was really the heartbeat of the whole lot -- keeping everybody together," he said.
The South African, known as "Uncle Dalu", had replaced Craig Busch, star of the Lion Man TV series, as the park's senior cat handler.
Mr Holland moved to Zion from Auckland Zoo after Mr Busch lost his zoo operator's licence.
The park will be working with police, and officials from the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry, and Department of Labour today to try and establish exactly what happened in the fatal attack, Mr Holland said.
Mr Busch, who is in the middle of an employment dispute with his estranged mother and park owner Patricia Busch, said the mauling was an "a terrible personal blow".
He claimed during Employment Relations Authority hearing on Tuesday that animal welfare and safety standards had slipped at the park since the breakdown of his relationship with his mother.

Staff 'at risk' before death | Stuff.co.nz
A keeper mauled to death by a rare white tiger had previously prised the jaws of the same animal from a colleague's mangled leg.
Horrified tourists watched yesterday as the tiger pounced on South African Dalu Mncube, the senior cat handler at Zion Wildlife Gardens in Whangarei, about 11am.
The attack is the third at the park in just over a year. It has sparked investigations by police, the Labour Department, MAF and the coroner while other zoos and keepers have spoken out against the park's intimate style of handling its animals.
The tiger, one of only 120 of the endangered animals in the world, was shot dead by park staff moments after the attack and the facility has been closed until further notice.
Mncube, known as "Uncle Dalu" a fixture at the park which is also the home of "Lion Man" Craig Busch was preparing to clean a cage with another keeper when the cat leapt at him.
Eight tourists, including two children, witnessed the mauling. A visitor from Auckland said he had taken two British friends to the park.
"It was very, very frightening... We were all there when it happened. We are all very shaken at the moment."
Mncube's death echoed an attack in February when fellow keeper Demetri Price was mauled by a white tiger called Abu, believed to be the cat that killed Mncube.
When the tiger locked its jaws on Price's knee, Mncube pulled the cat's teeth apart with his hands before blasting it with a fire extinguisher.
Price last night hailed Mncube as a "very, very unique man", but criticised the park's management saying it endangered keepers.
"I was no longer willing to take the risk that was involved with working there."

Last year, a Scottish teenager working at the park was attacked by a lion cub when she put her hands through a fence.
Zion's Glen Holland said staff would be offered counselling.
"This is a fantastic person, he is a personal friend and everybody is devastated by it."
The centre would co-operate with the investigations, he said.
MAF oversees zoos and wildlife parks with annual safety audits. Its guidelines for big cats ban direct contact "unless an animal is hand-reared or suitably conditioned".
Wellington Zoo general manager of operations Mauritz Basson said close handling of big cats was common around the world, but he would never support it at his zoo.
"They are immensely powerful. You need to be alert and you need to stay alert and that's how you stay alive."
Zion's website includes an advertisement for a tiger walk, where "best of all, you will be able to pat the tiger". Keepers routinely hug and interact with the big cats.
Former keeper Bob Bennett, who was attacked while working at Wellington Zoo in 2006, said Busch "used to take a lot more risks than I would have" with big cats.
"He was a great guy, but some of the things he did I wouldn't approve of."
Zion is in an employment battle with Busch, who became famous internationally as the "Lion Man" after a television show.
Yesterday, he called Mncube's death "a terrible personal blow".
Orana Wildlife Park animal-collection manager Ian Adams said one of its "golden rules" was that handlers never entered an enclosure with big cats and always kept two locked gates between themselves and the animals.
Not having a barrier between them and the park's two Sumatran tigers was a "complete no-no".
"They can be as friendly as and as good as gold, but we never know when it's going to go wrong," he said.
"Tigers are quite a bit different from lions. They are more assertive and more unpredictable. It is a much more intense animal."
Even the smallest tigers could weigh up to 120 kilograms and were "like a four-wheel-drive".
"They are hugely strong for their size and there is nothing you can do [in an attack], unless you destroy the animal first," Adams said.
 
Wow poor guy, this really is tragic, but it is a huge risk working these animals & unlike what some people have said on here, i don't think that working with these cats, in the way Dhalu did is wrong. There are many facilities all over the world that work in conservation AND have a unique relashionship with their animals: & it was even said in the article presented that the tiger that killed him was not used to human contact, so you can't really use this man's death as a symbol that working closely with big cats is wrong. Look at wot happened in san francisco zoo. A tiger, that never had contact with humans escaped and killed a guy. Does that mean that tigers shouldn't be in captivity at all..?? This man died doing a job that he loved & that showed people a different kind of conservation. He taught people why they should respect predators so maybe, for now at least,he deserves a little bit more than ''i told you so''... & ''I knew this would happen''...
 
JonnyS18, the problem is that tigers are not pets. No matter how 'friendly' a tiger is and how much human contact it has had, it remains a wild animal. Wild animals are never completely predictable and when that is combined with a force that easily can kill a grown man, it is entirely irresponsible to put yourself in a risky situation like entering the cage when the tiger is there. Sure, accidents happen (e.g. a man committed suicide in a tiger cage in Denmark a few days ago) but if every zoo that keeps big cats went about doing things like Zion Wildlife Gardens we would have a new serious incident every week. This would be tragic on every level: ordinary people being mislead by the idea of big cats being pet-like animals you can freely interact with, zookeepers dying when attacked, their family and friends, and the big cats, which (as in this case) often end up dead too.
 
I agree to some extent, but what he was teaching was not conservation, it was wrong. I've never met anyone who works in a zoo who thinks white tigers are a critically endangered subspecies that needs conserving, and I find it quite worrying that someone who owns a zoo can be that naive and share that incorrect message with millions.
 
jonnyS18 said:
Wow poor guy, this really is tragic, but it is a huge risk working these animals & unlike what some people have said on here, i don't think that working with these cats, in the way Dhalu did is wrong. There are many facilities all over the world that work in conservation AND have a unique relashionship with their animals: & it was even said in the article presented that the tiger that killed him was not used to human contact, so you can't really use this man's death as a symbol that working closely with big cats is wrong. Look at wot happened in san francisco zoo. A tiger, that never had contact with humans escaped and killed a guy. Does that mean that tigers shouldn't be in captivity at all..?? This man died doing a job that he loved & that showed people a different kind of conservation. He taught people why they should respect predators so maybe, for now at least,he deserves a little bit more than ''i told you so''... & ''I knew this would happen''...
I think you're missing the point. Everybody can agree this is a tragic event, but it was caused by the way in which the park is operated. Saying "I told you so" or "I knew it would happen" isn't lessening or disrespecting the tragedy of his death, it is a simple fact that Zion is and always has been an accident waiting to happen.

The article did NOT say the tiger was unused to human contact. It was a hand-raised tiger, as are almost all the big cats at Zion. The article in fact said that the animal wasn't used in public interactions (that's the paying public not the keepers) because it scared easily. The point here is that this was an animal KNOWN to be dangerous (it had attacked another keeper earlier this year) and the keepers were still entering the cage with it with no safety precautions. It was stupid, plain and simple, and the management of the park are entirely at fault.
 
Yes i do agree, & im not for one minute saying that Zion wildlife gardens is a metaphor for conservation (far from it in some cases) im just saying working with big cats can be dangerous but that doesn't make it wrong. my opinion is if you are holding an animal that is going to be released into the wild, then respect it & keep your distance, but if your working with an animal that is going to be in captivity it's whole life then why not at least try and build a decent relashionship with it from a young age...

I wasnt trying to imply that some comments were disrespectful it just felt like the Steve Irwin incident all over again, as soon as people heard he died evry1 just seemed to be saying ''i knew it would happen cos he was asking for it''. Just got on my nerves really...
 
What's disturbed me most has been the reaction of some of the Lion Man Fans.Some have resorted to blaming Patricia Busch which is ludicrous and also sending rude and defamatory emails to both Mrs Busch and Zion. They're so blinded by the make believe television world anything else they don't want to know about.

Zion as a whole had a responsibility to ensure the safety of their staff. That's a legal obligation under the Health & Safety in Employment Act. In this they have failed and a man lost his life. As quoted in an earlier comment on this Forum the tiger was known to be dangerous. This could be the final straw that broke the Zion Camel's back so to speak. I can see the writing on the wall.
 
some quotes from Jarkari's earlier link Should Zion Wildlife Gardens in Whangarei be shut down? - 27 May 2009 - Your Views - NZ Herald Blog (now running to 17 pages of international comments, heavily skewed towards undying love of Craig Busch) illustrating what madbushfarm has just said:
I was very saddened to hear about dalu he loved those animals and having abu shoot was not necessary he is awild animal and in the programme craig always said they could turn on you at any given moment.
The authorities have to get craig reinstated to the park as soon as because it seems as if his mother and the new park manager haven't a clue what they are doing and its getting out of hand.
I love the work craig has done with animals especially with the white lions, they are the most beautiful creatures in the world.
The only reason they should shut the park down is if mrs busch continues to run it but if they get craig back running it the park will thrive again and the animals would have there true friend and owner back.
If Craig was running the park, the keepers would be so welled in tune with the animals - today would never have happened.
I more mortified that both a keeper and a tiger have died under such tragic circumstances. Craig's mother needs to take stock of this timing and bring her son back.
Perhaps higher powers are telling her and the rest of the world that Zion Wildlife Park should be under Craig's control.
Of course it shouldn't be shut down! This is a prime example of why Craig Busch should be reinstated - moreover, never been fired in the first place! The cats are forming NEW pack leaders. Cats have feelings you know, they are pining, and therefore, grouchy, and a grouchy wild animal is a dangerous creature.
If the keepers had a realistic idea of this then nothing like this would have happened. There are ALWAYS going to be dangers involved. No one was killed when Craig was in control of the cats, as their pack leader. Craig has worked with Big Cats all his life [note that this is completely wrong!], and raised these ones. People need to realise that Craig CAN control them, no-one else!
Zion park should not be shut down! The park is vital for the survival of such endangered cats, it's also one of the best breeding programmes in the world. Dalu's loss is tragic, my thoughts are with his familly, also the staff he worked with. Dalu came accross as a lovely guy, he clearly loved his job, he would not want the park to be closed, or the destruction of an animal he cared for. I stongly believe this would not have happen if Mr Busch was still running the park. Rip Dalu and Abu. You will be a great loss to the park xx
 
Exactly. So blind they can't see the truth in front of them. TV Land is where they want to live. Dream on.

Also I have obtained a full copy of the MAF Investigation Report into the declawings of the animals. Guess who was mentioned as asking for them to be done. I'll be uploading it onto Scribd in the next 24 hours. This report was obtained under the Official Information Act. Names of course have been blanked out to protect people's identities which is fair enough. Zion used declawing as part of park routine procedure. The last animal declawed was a young Lion in May 2008. As soon as it's done I'll post up the link so you can take a look at the full report
 
Thanks, I'd be very interested in reading that.

Post the link on that Newsblog too, just to really set the white tiger amongst the stool pigeons!

:p

Hix
 
but if your working with an animal that is going to be in captivity it's whole life then why not at least try and build a decent relashionship with it from a young age...

Unfortunately, in order to build this "relationship", and so that keepers can go in with cats, they are often removed from their mothers and hand-reared - an unhealthy and unnatural practice.

... and even the best relationship with a big cat will not stop it from striking out if it is startled or frightened.

You can still develop great relationships with big cats without having to be in with them.
 
Thanks, I'd be very interested in reading that.

Post the link on that Newsblog too, just to really set the white tiger amongst the stool pigeons!

:p

Hix

Hi Hix Oh yes I'll be blogging it as well. If I get the trolls then I might need trolls to troll the trolls:D. Interesting report and an eye opener at that. I'll post the link once this slow scanner of mine does it's job. I'm trying to make a deadline as well.:eek:
 
Hand rearing

Shere-Khan nust curious why you think that hand rearing is "unhealthy". I can understand your un-natural comment as obviously it does not happen in the wild.
 
there have of course been more news reports on the incident, including many about whether it was right to kill such an endangered species of which there are only 100-odd left alive in the world today [no comment :)].
One thing I thought I'd repeat from tonight's news was that although initial reports from the police said the tiger was shot by staff after the keeper was already dead (in order to get Dalu's body out of the cage presumably), the park management now says the tiger was shot as a last resort at saving him (after the second keeper tried repeated punches and blows with a chunk of wood, and then a jab with a cattle prod). I'm not going to try and guess to say one or other version is correct because I have no idea and initial reports from accident scenes are often wrong. Just thought I'd put both versions out there.
 
One of the things that really saddens me is the ignorance of people as seen by the comments about what happened. (Not on this forum but on the other one). That so many presumambly educated people can be so misinformed about white tigers is astonishing.
 
Shere-Khan nust curious why you think that hand rearing is "unhealthy". I can understand your un-natural comment as obviously it does not happen in the wild.

Not Shere-Khan but I'll add a comment anyway:

* Mothers milk is more healthy than any artificial substitute you can get. Exact same applies to humans and among others is due to the passing of antibodies (= immunity to diseases) from mother to child (offspring). For many animals we also don't know exactly what vitamins, minerals, fats, etc, in that species' milk. Even if we know what it contains it is very difficult to try to match it by combining milk of other species where milk is easily available (e.g. from cows, goats) and that still doesn't help with the antibodies which are species specific.
* Hand-rearing often results in animals with psychological issues, e.g. with difficulties of relating to their own species. They can't figure out if they're humans or animals and may be unable to understand important parts of the intraspecific language of 'normal' individuals of the animal. This may results in them not being able to breed when adult and if they do they may not be able to take care of their offspring (the 'bad circle' continue in the following generations. It can be very difficult to 'break' this 'bad circle' when it has been started). Thereby any value the animal may have had as a part of the genepool for the species is significantly lowered.
 
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Hand rearing

I have heard the discussion before relating to hand rearing versus mother rearing and a few points may be:

Hand reared tigers (in this case) are more adjusted to a captive circumstances. They are more at ease with re-location and being comfortable around humans.

Mortality is lower with hand reared animals. Milk substitute formulas have improved over the past twenty years and if properly done have excellent results.

Hand reared tigers can and do breed in many institutions as well or better than mother reared animals.

Removing cubs for hand rearing at a young age (a few weeks) is far less harsh mentally on both mothers and cubs than to ultimately remove cubs at months or years after birth.
 
Mortality is lower with hand reared animals.

Hand reared tigers can and do breed in many institutions as well or better than mother reared animals.

Do you have a reference or similar for either of the above (emphasis of two words done by me to make it clear what I refer to)? They directly contradict what I would consider logic, but if someone (you or anybody else reading this) has info that suggests not I'd certainly appreciate learning. If so why would any zoo breeding tigers allow mother-reared cubs?
 
''but if every zoo that keeps big cats went about doing things like Zion Wildlife Gardens we would have a new serious incident every week.''

I agree with what you've said here. Obviously if every zoo handraised every predatory animal born in the zoo, you would probably get a lot of accidents too often, whether serious or minor. However i also agree with what ptig has said, handraising can also have incredible benefits & one of the examples i can give you where hand rearing has been a success is at the feline conservation center. This facility had a black jaguar female who had to have a c-section, after previous abandonments & loss of cubs, & the three cubs grew up with each other & human carers. 8 years later the female cub, 'Annie' gave birth to a male & female cubs who she not only raised, but she allowed them to bond with her human carers. They left the cubs with their mother but also interacted wit the cubs on a regular basis. Maybe because Annie was raised with humans & with her two littermates, she not only bonded with humans but also bonded with jaguars, leading to her becoming a wonderful mother. I'll post a couple of links so you can see for yourself:

http://cathouse-fcc.org/pdfs/Sep05.pdf

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