Zoo/Aquarium Hot Takes

Just because you see them every day doesn't mean the rest of the zoo-going population does, nor does that justify wanting no deer representation over representation by giving unreleasable native animals a permanent home in an educational setting.

Fallow Deer in US zoos are practically domestic animals at this point, and serve less of an educational purpose than White-Tailed Deer.

White-Tailed Deer are super common for you, but Mule Deer are super common for someone else. You don't despise one because you don't have the other and I'd be willing to bet that if you lived somewhere where it was Mule Deer you saw this frequently you'd feel exactly the opposite.

~Thylo
Are we sure there really are many nonreleasable whitetails in zoos, either? I can't recall ever seeing or hearing of of any zoo having them.
 
Given you said this earlier using yourself as reference even if you weren't calling yourself either,

Your comment seems a bit of an April Fool's joke in of itself.



More like unfortunately for all of us, sorry if that's harsh but less talking and more thinking on your part might start improving our opinion of you for a lot of us.
I realize your intentions, and this do not take offense. I will try my best.
 
No offense taken here, but if you ever want to be taken seriously on here I would highly recommend putting in more time and thought into your posts.
I’m fully aware of this Argus, as I said, I will do what I can, as I’m well aware that many of you folks regard me as a bit of an idiot.
 
I’m fully aware of this Argus, as I said, I will do what I can, as I’m well aware that many of you folks regard me as a bit of an idiot.
I can’t speak for everyone but at least for me and others, it’s not the case of being an idiot. We know that sometimes some of us get too excited or fiery with our emotions when trying to provide more talking points. The problem is when things become quite scatterbrained and it can become difficult to follow. Always take a moment to take a deep breath or pause prior to posting, so we can take you seriously as a reputable member who provides new insight or thoughts that you can also back up when questioned.
 
I’m fully aware of this Argus, as I said, I will do what I can, as I’m well aware that many of you folks regard me as a bit of an idiot.

Not really being an idiot, no. As Julio said it's more for your tendency to be posting in a rather scatterbrained manner where it becomes difficult to follow your point. Double checking your posts for accidental autocorrects, spelling errors, and grammatical errors would also be something to get in the habit of doing. Doesn't take that long and often saves one from having to edit or clarify.
 
Are we sure there really are many nonreleasable whitetails in zoos, either? I can't recall ever seeing or hearing of of any zoo having them.

Well for one, I personally have never seen all too many White-Tailed Deer in zoos. When I have, they've always been rescued animals that are not breeding. I think the only zoos I've been to that breed WTD are roadsides. How often when wild rescues are in zoos do you actually know they're rescues? For some species it's obvious but that's just because we, as zoo nerds, know those animals will most likely be wild born rescues.

I don't know the situation with WTD in zoos in Wisconsin and surrounding states, but if you're really encountering the species this often in zoos, it might just be a regional issue.

~Thylo
 
With WTD, the major cause of being deemed nonreleasable in my experience is imprinting. People find a hidden fawn, assume it’s abandoned, and take it away. They either turn it over to the state or try keeping it as a pet and it gets confiscated later. It won’t be like with bald eagles where there is usually a very notable physical reason that the animal can’t be wild
 
Well for one, I personally have never seen all too many White-Tailed Deer in zoos. When I have, they've always been rescued animals that are not breeding. I think the only zoos I've been to that breed WTD are roadsides. How often when wild rescues are in zoos do you actually know they're rescues? For some species it's obvious but that's just because we, as zoo nerds, know those animals will most likely be wild born rescues.

I don't know the situation with WTD in zoos in Wisconsin and surrounding states, but if you're really encountering the species this often in zoos, it might just be a regional issue.

~Thylo
Zoos often note when animals they have are wild rescues. White-tailed Deer are found in nearly every Wisconsin zoo and are nearly always sourced from the private trade.
 
Zoos often note when animals they have are wild rescues. White-tailed Deer are found in nearly every Wisconsin zoo and are nearly always sourced from the private trade.
Zoos often notes when animals are rescued when it’s significant. Zoos will talk about bears or mountain lions that are rescued but do zoos ever talk about how they rescued raccoons? A better example are bald eagles, not every zoo talks about if they rescued bald eagles or other birds of prey but we know they did. Do you know for a fact that all of the white tails in Wisconsin came from the private sector? And once again does it really matter if there are white tails as long as their being used for education on local species? The fact that white tails are common makes them even more necessary for captivity. It reminds people that they are wild animals and that they are just as important as any other animal.

Edit: sorry it says notes and not note in the first sentence I can’t change it for some reason and I hate it.
 
Zoos often note when animals they have are wild rescues. White-tailed Deer are found in nearly every Wisconsin zoo and are nearly always sourced from the private trade.

I have very rarely ever seen a zoo indicate when an animal was a wild rescue and it's primarily done with raptors in my experience. I certainly don't think I have ever seen this done with deer of any kind, at least not as indicated on the zoo's signage. How do you know for a fact these are privately bred and sourced deer and not wild rescues?

I really do think this may be a regional thing if they are this common around you. I did look into Wisconsin's CWD regulations, primarily to see whether the movement of deer across state/county lines is strictly banned. I didn't find anything definitive on that, but I did find that there is a permitting program for monitoring the health and trade of captive deer in Wisconsin. The page states that there are 301 "registered deer premises" in the state, of which 68 are hunting ranches. It appears as though this all applies to the keeping of White-Tailed Deer, American Elk, and Domestic Reindeer only.

~Thylo
 
Between March 7 and September 27, the Houston Zoo has an “exhibit” sponsored by TXU Energy, which is an electricity company and not petroleum, but I mention this because the “exhibit” is a set of dragon animatronics, which isn’t very educational and seems like a completely unnecessary waste of money for the zoo.
 
Between March 7 and September 27, the Houston Zoo has an “exhibit” sponsored by TXU Energy, which is an electricity company and not petroleum, but I mention this because the “exhibit” is a set of dragon animatronics, which isn’t very educational and seems like a completely unnecessary waste of money for the zoo.

You're missing the point of a sponsorship. If the exhibit is sponsored by "so and so", they're providing most to all of the financial support for the exhibit in exchange for their name being tied to it. It's an easy way for zoos and museums to get exhibits and programs in for cheaper and the companies get advertising and positive public perception.
 
You're missing the point of a sponsorship. If the exhibit is sponsored by "so and so", they're providing most to all of the financial support for the exhibit in exchange for their name being tied to it. It's an easy way for zoos and museums to get exhibits and programs in for cheaper and the companies get advertising and positive public perception.
I have nothing against other sponsorships like the one mentioned above, I just find it inappropriate for zoo exhibits to be sponsored by gas and oil companies, especially aquariums, considering that they are directly advertising something that harms wildlife, it just seems like irony. Like if a petting zoo was sponsored by a meat packing company.
 
Between March 7 and September 27, the Houston Zoo has an “exhibit” sponsored by TXU Energy, which is an electricity company and not petroleum, but I mention this because the “exhibit” is a set of dragon animatronics, which isn’t very educational and seems like a completely unnecessary waste of money for the zoo.
Got to find ways to promote righteous claim look what were doing to raising monies to help conservative measures. It's a show those dinosaurs to get folks into zoo never mind desire to actually learn about living animals in one's present life. Welcome to that NEW endangered species feeding : the cash cow! Gone are days of actual zoological park and the studying of animals.
 
Zoos often note when animals they have are wild rescues. White-tailed Deer are found in nearly every Wisconsin zoo and are nearly always sourced from the private trade.
Now zoo's are in business of rescuing human's with entertainments, and other amenities to maybe, just maybe wake up to a reality there are lives outside ones vitual world that cause life to be or not! Question is are we being entertained to our death?
 
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