Zoo/Aquarium Hot Takes

Thinking through where I've seen stingray or sturgeon touch tanks:

Sturgeon (4): Shedd, Toledo, Discovery World, Great Lakes Aquarium

Stingray (8): Shedd, Discovery World, Omaha, Minnesota, ASDM, SeaLife Minnesota, Indianapolis, Brookfield (no longer present at Brookfield)

Honestly way more stingray touch tanks than I remembered.
 
Regardless, both are really cool features if done with animal welfare prioritized.

Unfortunately stingray touch pools seem to have major issues every so often - I can recall multiple articles of stingray pools losing most to all of their inhabitants due to equipment failure or other problems. The most successful ones seem to be those incorporated on the main aquarium systems.
 
St. Louis also has one, I imagine you've been there since they added it over a decade ago.
Regardless, both are really cool features if done with animal welfare prioritized.
I have no memory of it, but I'm sure it was there. Atlantic Cownose Rays aren't exactly the most memorable zoo animal, especially when in a standalone exhibit. Plus, if there was an upcharge to see the exhibit, I wouldn't have done it.
Unfortunately stingray touch pools seem to have major issues every so often - I can recall multiple articles of stingray pools losing most to all of their inhabitants due to equipment failure or other problems. The most successful ones seem to be those incorporated on the main aquarium systems.
This is why the one at Brookfield isn't there anymore...
 
Unfortunately stingray touch pools seem to have major issues every so often - I can recall multiple articles of stingray pools losing most to all of their inhabitants due to equipment failure or other problems. The most successful ones seem to be those incorporated on the main aquarium systems.
Yes, ZooTampa had an event that killed all the rays in the tank at once overnight. They never really said what happened but they think it was a "supersaturation event". After that happened they closed it and completely removed the whole complex and are rebuilding it.
 
Not really a hot take, although someone will act like it is: Bans or restrictions on keeping wild or exotic animals, without specific language exempting zoos, will always be disastrous for zoos. As the elephant hook bans have been for zoos that had elephants until then.

New hot take for this thread: US zoos should be more willing, in some circumstances, to use euthanasia as a management strategy. This is NOT me saying that preventing breeding through contraception and/or social means isn't preferable, but in some circumstances euthanasia could be the better option:
  • For social species that don't have a reversable contraception available, where the adults would have to be separated part of the year to prevent breeding, continuing to manage a natural social grouping for the entire year could be in the best welfare interest of the adult animals. I've known zoos that have had to manage giraffes, river otters, callimicos, and more in these ways of social management, and if zoos were more open to the idea of euthanizing offspring instead of social separation then the welfare of the potential parents could be improved.
  • For species where a skewed sex ratio is ideal (e.g., harem-living species like many ungulates, gorillas, howler monkeys, lions, etc.,), or species where the population has a demographically unhealthy sex ratio (e.g., okapi, pale-faced sakis, etc.), the need for additional individuals of one sex, paired with limited total space available, may warrant increased breeding, with the euthanasia of overrepresented individuals of the undesired sex. In some bird species (e.g., Humboldt penguins), zoos have started sexing eggs to prioritize keeping one sex or the other depending on what's demographically needed. For mammals, the best way to achieve this would unfortunately be through euthanasia.
  • From a welfare perspective, a short but high-quality life could debatably be better than a long life in inferior conditions. While there are many excellent zoos outside of the AZA, and I'm not saying no animals should be transferred out of the SSP population, euthanasia could easily be argued as a better alternative than moving individuals to subpar facilities.
  • In egg-laying animals, a certain number of eggs could be kept depending on the needs of the population. For example, a pair of (insert bird species here) could be recommended to produce one chick, and the remaining eggs from a clutch wouldn't be allowed to be incubated. For mammal species that have highly variable litter sizes, the populations could be easier to manage if euthanasia was considered for some individuals from large litters. This could potentially limit the "boom and bust" cycles that impact many populations due to the unpredictability of births.
Obviously, this is a difficult topic, and it's certainly possible to take euthanasia as a management strategy too far, but in some circumstances I do think it could be in the best interest of both the populations and of individual animals.

I could get behind this if we could also feed some of that excess hoofstock to the carnivores. Frankly, I think this "management method" is overused for reptiles, however.
 
Whats a hot take or unpopular opinion you have in regards to a certain zoo or zoos in general? This is the thread to post them. Post your own or make a rebuttal to get a discussion going. To get the ball rolling here is a hot take from yours truly.

Hot take - Zoo Miami is a top 5 American zoo. Zoo Miami is often considered one of the strongest zoos in Florida for good reason, yet I rarely see it brought up when the discussion comes along for what zoo is the overall strongest in the nation. The collection is phenomenal in every category, the zoo is massive, all of the exhibits range from good to fantastic without any downright bad areas, it has one of the only functioning monorails left in the nation and is situated in a tropical climate. Perhaps the only complaint is that the zoo is huge and that means theres a lot of walking to do, and the lack of any real history because of the how new the zoo is by comparison to others. Regardless, those are minor issues in the grand scheme of things and I think Miami is deserving of being talked about more. I think it rivals zoological giants like Bronx and Saint Louis.
Detroit zoos reptile center building should of been for small mammals instead of reptiles
 
Detroit zoos reptile center building should of been for small mammals instead of reptiles
Detroit Zoo’s Reptile Center is excellent, so I don’t fully agree… but I can see where you’re coming from. Detroit is seriously lacking in small mammals — many varieties common in the AZA like meerkats, prairie dogs, tamarins and marmosets, naked mole-rats, Patagonian cavy, small felids, and so on and so forth are simply absent. If there was a zoo lacking a small mammal house that could use one, I would definitely nominate Detroit.
 
I get what you mean I would definitely want them to have reptile, I feel like when the have more availability to do construction that they should add another building to their land and move the reptiles there, I'm sure they could fulfill having a reasonable amount of small mammals if they even just used the land of the reptilian house and moved it somewhere else
 
I get what you mean I would definitely want them to have reptile, I feel like when the have more availability to do construction that they should add another building to their land and move the reptiles there, I'm sure they could fulfill having a reasonable amount of small mammals if they even just used the land of the reptilian house and moved it somewhere else
If they were going to construct another building and move the reptiles there - why not just construct the new building for small mammals? That would seem to make more sense in that scenario.
 
If they were going to construct another building and move the reptiles there - why not just construct the new building for small mammals? That would seem to make more sense in that scenario.
Thanks for telling me that, I should have thought about that because this is definitely the better choice safety wise and all of that kind of stuff.
 
I for one enjoy a good touch tank, and as far as I can tell, it's fine for the animals if it's monitored properly. I wonder how zoos and aquariums decide to draw the line. A few years back, I went to Moody Gardens for the first time after COVID. Went to the touch tank, but it wasn't touch any more. The employee told me that they made it looking-only because apparently people can no longer be trusted to follow the "be gentle" rule. (and multiple people tried to steal animals from it?!) They did still have the stingray touch tank open for touching, since the stingrays had the movement and space to get away from people if they were being a problem.
 
I think contact and walkthrough experiences are going to be a bigger part of zoos in the future than they are now. It's a huge draw to casual visitors, looks great on social media, and lets guests feel connected to the animals. It even seems like some facilities are beginning to explore new ideas beyond the traditional goat petting yard, the old tide pool petting experiences, and the last decade plus' trends of kangaroo walkthroughs and stingray petting.

(Not a hot take, but to respond to the touch tank discussion.)
 
I think contact and walkthrough experiences are going to be a bigger part of zoos in the future than they are now. It's a huge draw to casual visitors, looks great on social media, and lets guests feel connected to the animals. It even seems like some facilities are beginning to explore new ideas beyond the traditional goat petting yard, the old tide pool petting experiences, and the last decade plus' trends of kangaroo walkthroughs and stingray petting.

(Not a hot take, but to respond to the touch tank discussion.)

Personally, I could see the future of visitor-animal interactions in US zoos going in either direction. On one hand, you are absolutely correct that they are very popular with visitors. The fact it lets guests feel connected to animals is also a great point- and one that is integral to the direction many zoo education departments have been trending in recent years, with more of a focus on empathy training and profound experiences. In those regards, it seems very likely that visitor-animal interactions, whether they be walk-throughs, touch tanks, or animal ambassador experiences, could become more common in the future. I'd even throw into this the fact many zoos have started bringing in bird shows during the summer- as even though there isn't direct visitor-animal contact, it does fit into the idea of close-up, profound experiences with animals and building closer connections with the animals.

That said, any visitor-animal interaction in zoos is going to be inherently more risky than a traditional exhibit. This isn't to say they are high risk (many of the common ones, such as walk-through aviaries and goat feeding, are fairly low risk), but some zoos are always going to be more risk-averse than others, for whatever reason. It's easy to see how some incident or event could spur the reduction of certain existing visitor-animal interactions. While so far I'm not aware of any incidents in kangaroo walk-throughs, kangaroos are potentially dangerous animals. Would all it take be one incident at a single zoo for other zoos to re-think having kangaroo walk-throughs? Likewise, there have been recent cases where multiple zoos have lost all of their stingrays in a touch tank. Other zoos and aquariums may look at these cases as a reason not to add a stingray touch tank to their collection.

Perhaps the biggest risk in walk-throughs is disease, and we are living in a time with increasing zoonotic disease concerns. Walk-through aviaries were one rather high-risk exhibit during the height of Avian influenza- and Toronto Zoo actually transformed each of their walk-through aviaries into a non-walk-through as a reaction to the risk of Avian flu. Is that an appropriate response or overreaction? Not my place to judge, but it goes back to the fact some zoos would be more risk averse than others. During the aftermath of COVID-19, visitor-animal interactions remained a concern of many zoos, in trying to keep their collection safe from the virus. It's easy to see how certain zoos may have either closed visitor-animal interactions or removed high-risk species as a result of the pandemic. I'm not here to judge whether zoos made the right changes and precautions or not, merely am pointing out potential factors influencing the future of visitor-animal interactions in zoos.

Outside of the risks of visitor-animal interactions, animal welfare is another area that could influence the future trends. With good zoos putting more of an emphasis on welfare (and rightfully so!), it is possible that some or all zoos re-evaluate their interactive exhibits from a welfare perspective. This is already being done at some zoos in regards to animal ambassador programs. While I don't know of any zoos eliminating their ambassador program, many zoos are putting more of an emphasis on ensuring choice and control on the part of the animal, and some zoos are also re-considering having touch opportunities with ambassadors. While I don't know if there are any welfare concerns with walk-through exhibits, I can easily see how new research could change that. Imagine a study being done evaluating the cortisol levels (stress hormone) and behavior of kangaroos when there is and is not visitors in their walk-through exhibit. I have no clue what results such a study would find, but could a study of that nature cause zoos to reconsider kangaroo walk-throughs? That I'm not sure of.

Overall, one trend I do expect is for more and more visitor-animal interactions to be monitored by staff. I suspect more zoos in the future will have staff present in walk-through aviaries to ensure guests are following the rules and respecting the animals, as well as providing educational information. Most touch opportunities, and many walk-throughs, are already monitored, and I suspect a greater proportion of them will be in the future as this is a great way to mitigate some of the risks and concerns surrounding visitor-animal interactions that I have laid out.
 
Personally, I could see the future of visitor-animal interactions in US zoos going in either direction. On one hand, you are absolutely correct that they are very popular with visitors. The fact it lets guests feel connected to animals is also a great point- and one that is integral to the direction many zoo education departments have been trending in recent years, with more of a focus on empathy training and profound experiences. In those regards, it seems very likely that visitor-animal interactions, whether they be walk-throughs, touch tanks, or animal ambassador experiences, could become more common in the future. I'd even throw into this the fact many zoos have started bringing in bird shows during the summer- as even though there isn't direct visitor-animal contact, it does fit into the idea of close-up, profound experiences with animals and building closer connections with the animals.

That said, any visitor-animal interaction in zoos is going to be inherently more risky than a traditional exhibit. This isn't to say they are high risk (many of the common ones, such as walk-through aviaries and goat feeding, are fairly low risk), but some zoos are always going to be more risk-averse than others, for whatever reason. It's easy to see how some incident or event could spur the reduction of certain existing visitor-animal interactions. While so far I'm not aware of any incidents in kangaroo walk-throughs, kangaroos are potentially dangerous animals. Would all it take be one incident at a single zoo for other zoos to re-think having kangaroo walk-throughs? Likewise, there have been recent cases where multiple zoos have lost all of their stingrays in a touch tank. Other zoos and aquariums may look at these cases as a reason not to add a stingray touch tank to their collection.

Perhaps the biggest risk in walk-throughs is disease, and we are living in a time with increasing zoonotic disease concerns. Walk-through aviaries were one rather high-risk exhibit during the height of Avian influenza- and Toronto Zoo actually transformed each of their walk-through aviaries into a non-walk-through as a reaction to the risk of Avian flu. Is that an appropriate response or overreaction? Not my place to judge, but it goes back to the fact some zoos would be more risk averse than others. During the aftermath of COVID-19, visitor-animal interactions remained a concern of many zoos, in trying to keep their collection safe from the virus. It's easy to see how certain zoos may have either closed visitor-animal interactions or removed high-risk species as a result of the pandemic. I'm not here to judge whether zoos made the right changes and precautions or not, merely am pointing out potential factors influencing the future of visitor-animal interactions in zoos.

Outside of the risks of visitor-animal interactions, animal welfare is another area that could influence the future trends. With good zoos putting more of an emphasis on welfare (and rightfully so!), it is possible that some or all zoos re-evaluate their interactive exhibits from a welfare perspective. This is already being done at some zoos in regards to animal ambassador programs. While I don't know of any zoos eliminating their ambassador program, many zoos are putting more of an emphasis on ensuring choice and control on the part of the animal, and some zoos are also re-considering having touch opportunities with ambassadors. While I don't know if there are any welfare concerns with walk-through exhibits, I can easily see how new research could change that. Imagine a study being done evaluating the cortisol levels (stress hormone) and behavior of kangaroos when there is and is not visitors in their walk-through exhibit. I have no clue what results such a study would find, but could a study of that nature cause zoos to reconsider kangaroo walk-throughs? That I'm not sure of.

Overall, one trend I do expect is for more and more visitor-animal interactions to be monitored by staff. I suspect more zoos in the future will have staff present in walk-through aviaries to ensure guests are following the rules and respecting the animals, as well as providing educational information. Most touch opportunities, and many walk-throughs, are already monitored, and I suspect a greater proportion of them will be in the future as this is a great way to mitigate some of the risks and concerns surrounding visitor-animal interactions that I have laid out.

Visitor-Animal interactions really depend on the animal. There may be some Animals that could be harmed by the humans more then they can harm the humans (most fish, reptiles, amphibians, small mammals, etc) And some can just be more harmful to the humans which while most of these would be obvious such as Its obvious to not let people directly interact with an animal such as a hippo, a polar bear, just big animals in general, while some may not be as obvious and end up damaging the zoos vision of safety to its visitors or can ruin the health of the animals. The first thing to do before making an interactive habitat between the animals and visitors is thinking if the habitat is really safe for both the human and animal.
 
My hot take is that I absolutely despise free-roaming peafowl. Indian peacocks are certainly not a conservation effort, and by dint of being such ostentatious birds, they're constantly harassed by guests after their feathers. Zoos don't just keep animals in enclosures to protect visitors, but also the animals, and it just strikes me as impractical if not impossible to properly protect the welfare of a bird that can just go wherever it wants and eat any trash a visitor might feed them
 
My hot take is that I absolutely despise free-roaming peafowl. Indian peacocks are certainly not a conservation effort, and by dint of being such ostentatious birds, they're constantly harassed by guests after their feathers. Zoos don't just keep animals in enclosures to protect visitors, but also the animals, and it just strikes me as impractical if not impossible to properly protect the welfare of a bird that can just go wherever it wants and eat any trash a visitor might feed them
I feel your points, however I feel as if a large portion of the issues stems from a lack of security. That being said they shouldn't be bred like rabbits. I just visited the Dickerson park zoo in Springfield Missouri, and they had peacocks all over the zoo and I saw several mothers with at least 3 chicks a piece. The paths were also so narrow in some places to the point where a lone male could block the path. So I do agree with your points, but I think free roaming peafowl can be done right.
 
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