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Switching plans from Blacks to Whites could be potentially they plan to do mixed species on the generically named "Savanna yard" especially since that is a big space when they haven't mentioned anything hoofstock (other than Zebra but I consider them and Giraffe ABC)
 
Zoo Atlanta elephants walk into new habitat

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The elephants have been moved to their new exhibit. The move was done by creating a chute to their new outdoor yard, just across the public path. The zoos Facebook has a nice video of the move that includes images of the new exhibit which looks pretty great. The zoo will be receiving 2 more female elephants from Riverbanks Zoo later in the year as well.
 
MidwestFan said:
I would assume they will get another breeding bull at the Safari Park. Seems like they may be retiring Msholo from breeding since he lacked success.
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I was hoping they would. Msholo is not considered a breeding bull, so it is better to place it in a facility where breeding is not necessary. I also think San Diego will get a new breeding bull. They have five breeding cows (Ndula, Swazi, Umngani, Khosi and Phakamile) and will have more in the future (Quinisa, Mkhaya). I do not think it is appropriate to re-import Mabu. He cannot produce calves with his daughters. I thought it would be wrong to bring Sdudl from Lowry Park. He is a successful breeding bull, but neither Mbali nor Matjeka still have another calf. He would definitely succeed in San Diego. I would take Mabu to Lowry Park. This most successful breeding bull in America would certainly produce calves with Matjeka, Mbali and later also with Mpumi and Mavi. Maybe also with Ellie. Like Mabu, Sdudla could move from San Diego to Reid Park. Of course, San Diego can also get other bulls (Ali, Tonka, Junnot, Tutume ...), but this exchange would probably be the best.
 
S'dudla will breed the cows no problem. It is management problems. When I visited 1.5 years ago, they were just getting ready to start allowing him to be with the cows while they cycle again, their idea is to wait 7+ years between calves. So stupid.

Ellie is behavioural non-breeder, she is afraid of bulls. They tried AI several times after Tamani, but nothing took.

Good bull for San Diego would be Tonka. Large, strong, and healthy. He is sociable and assertive. He would do well with the younger males to tussle with, and the older cows to "show him the ropes" of breeding. They know their stuff and would likely do well with him. Poor guy would finally get the life he deserves.
 
Hyak_II said:
S'dudla will breed the cows no problem. It is management problems. When I visited 1.5 years ago, they were just getting ready to start allowing him to be with the cows while they cycle again, their idea is to wait 7+ years between calves. So stupid.

Ellie is behavioural non-breeder, she is afraid of bulls. They tried AI several times after Tamani, but nothing took.

Good bull for San Diego would be Tonka. Large, strong, and healthy. He is sociable and assertive. He would do well with the younger males to tussle with, and the older cows to "show him the ropes" of breeding. They know their stuff and would likely do well with him. Poor guy would finally get the life he deserves.
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I totally agree, Tonka would be a good choice. But as far as I know, Knoxville Zoo said they were looking for a new place for Tonka, and instead plans to bring in a third older cow. This means that this speculation is not far from reality.

You say Sdudla hasn't been connected to cows for a long time? That's stupid. Cows often become pregnant again a year after the birth of the calf, sometimes earlier. Do you already know about any mating?

I did not know that with Ellie breeding. This means that it is probably considered to be unsuitable for breeding.
 
Elephantelephant said:
I would take Mabu to Lowry Park. This most successful breeding bull in America would certainly produce calves with Matjeka, Mbali and later also with Mpumi and Mavi. Maybe also with Ellie. Like Mabu, Sdudla could move from San Diego to Reid Park. Of course, San Diego can also get other bulls (Ali, Tonka, Junnot, Tutume ...), but this exchange would probably be the best.
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I honestly think they should just retire Mabu. I feel he’s already represented enough within the SSP. Also what zoos are Ali Junnot and Tutume at?
 
John Marchwick said:
I honestly think they should just retire Mabu. I feel he’s already represented enough within the SSP. Also what zoos are Ali Junnot and Tutume at?
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Ali- Jacksonville, offspring: Zahara (Indianapolis), Jabali (DAK)
Tutume- Granby, no offspring!!!, important for the North American population of African elephants
Junnot- Hemmingford, no offspring!!!, Victoria inseminated in 2018 by his semen, I do not know the result

Mabu is one of the few breeding males in America, so if it retires, the North American population of African elephants may disappear. Meanwhile, he can stay in Reid Park, then I would suggest a transfer elsewhere - for example Montgomery, Fresno (if his son Vusmusi fails), Lowry Park (along with moving Sdudla elsewhere - his daughters will be adults in a few years), Indianapolis, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Dallas (if Tendaji fails), ...
 
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