1. Yes. With the yellow and everything.
2. I took it off on my spreadsheet as I said previously. Won’t happen again.
3. That’s just what it was signed as. I’ll do some digging for specific species.
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1. Yes. With the yellow and everything.
2. I took it off on my spreadsheet as I said previously. Won’t happen again.
3. That’s just what it was signed as. I’ll do some digging for specific species.
That's just a North American Porcupine.
My brother in Christ do you not see the yellow on the top?
I do. Some North American Porcupines are yellowish, too. That's clearly not even a Coendou species at all. The shape, tail and quill type are all wrong, and coendous don't have all that fur.
Yea I don’t think using a single picture to counter Leaf’s claim will work whenYeah, compare to:
1) The hairiness of this species seem to vary
2) You could see a big pink nose in the porcupine in Leaf’s picture that is more similar to a prehensile tailed porcupine species than a North American porcupine.
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I don’t know, it appears to have the Coendou clown nose. Unless the one that isn’t locked behind Facebook is different from the one Leaf posted here.
As some one who was there with @Leaf Productions, I can 100% back him up on this. It looked like every other captive one I’ve seen pictures of in the US, and it definitely wasn’t a North American Porcupine. People really don’t have better things to do so they dispute a porcupine lol
That is not at all what is happening here and is a very rude and untrue allegation. Coendu species (other than C. prehensilis) are rare in captivity, and commonly misidentified by both visitors and zoo signage. There is very good reason to dispute a little roadside zoo having C. mexicanus. It isn't impossible but it is very improbable. I agree the second photo posted by Leaf Productions is more convincing that the one from Facebook (which is definitely just an NA Porcupine), but I still remain unconvinced as to the animal's true identify. I have seen yellowish coloration is both C. prehensilis and Erethizon dorsatum before.
If it really is a big deal I can swap it out for Crested Porcupine…
Fair point, but when this is the same roadside zoo that somehow has also obtained other rarities such as ivory-billed aracari, Chinese alligator, and pallid fox, I don't think AA obtaining a Mexican hairy procupine is unreasonable.
I would agree, but we should still tread lightly here. I don't think Mexican Hairy Dwarf Porcupine has even been confirmed to be on public display anywhere in the US at all.
Toronto Zoo: 22 February 2023
Don't Turn On The Lights (6/10):
6. Solomon Island leaf frog (Cornufer guentheri)
Native Species Challenge (1/5):
1. Panamanian golden toad (Atelopus zeteki)
Island Hoppers Challenge (18/22):
14. Pheasant pigeon (Otidiphaps nobilis)
15. Solomon Island leaf frog (Cornufer guentheri)
16. Golden mantella (Mantella aurantiaca)
17. Mangarahara cichlid (Ptychochromis insolitus)
18. Arnoult's panchax (Pachypanchax arnoulti)
I'm Hot Blooded (For Cold Blood) (13/24 required; 17 chelonians):
13. Eyelash pit viper (Bothriechiis schlegelii)
Chelonians:
15. Red-bellied short-necked turtle (Emydura subglobosa)
16. Blanding's turtle (Emydoidea blandingii)
17. Spiny turtle (Heosemys spinosa)
Bona Fide Rarity Hunter (2/3):
2. Arnoult's panchax (Pachypanchax arnoulti)
6. Solomon Island leaf frog (Cornufer guentheri)
Native Species Challenge (1/5):
1. Panamanian golden toad (Atelopus zeteki)
Island Hoppers Challenge (18/22):
14. Pheasant pigeon (Otidiphaps nobilis)
15. Solomon Island leaf frog (Cornufer guentheri)
16. Golden mantella (Mantella aurantiaca)
17. Mangarahara cichlid (Ptychochromis insolitus)
18. Arnoult's panchax (Pachypanchax arnoulti)
I'm Hot Blooded (For Cold Blood) (13/24 required; 17 chelonians):
13. Eyelash pit viper (Bothriechiis schlegelii)
Chelonians:
15. Red-bellied short-necked turtle (Emydura subglobosa)
16. Blanding's turtle (Emydoidea blandingii)
17. Spiny turtle (Heosemys spinosa)
Bona Fide Rarity Hunter (2/3):
2. Arnoult's panchax (Pachypanchax arnoulti)
Where in Toronto are these Malagasy fish? Is there a Madagascar Tank in the African Rainforest, or are they somewhere else?
The first one is correct. Both species are in one of the tanks in the pavilion.
It's clear I've struck a bone with you, and for that you have my utmost apologies. On my next go-around, I will ensure myself to remove said Mexican Porcupine and replace it with another type of Rodent. Sincerest apologies.
You have not "struck a bone with me" in any way. I'm just trying to make sure this animal was correctly identified, using the evidence we have.
Alright, alright everybody settle down. The photo linked by @Smaggledagle does indeed look a lot like a North American Porcupine - however in digging their Facebook page I found the same photo zoomed out a bit farther showing a long tail, so it certainly is a Coendou. The photo linked by @Leaf Productions is very visibly a Coendou.
Thumbing through AA's Facebook page there are also photos of C. prehensilis and North American Porcupine. To me the animal looks like Mexican Hairy, I've never seen a prehensilis with that much fuzz.
This appears to be a Mexican Hairy, and it is in fact not the only one in the US currently I believe. The species has been not uncommon in US facilities in the recent past and I have seen the species here. While the questioning it is not unreasonable, Mexican Hairy Dwarf Porcupine is present in tiny numbers and the animal in question here appears to be one.