ZooChat Challenge Global 2023 - 10th Anniversary Special!

Penguimonium:
1. Humboldt Penguin

Fly the Coop:
7/11
1 Megapode:
Australian Brushturkey
2 Cracids:
1. Great Curassow
1 Guineafowl:
Vulturine Guineafowl
6 Phasianids:
1. Himalayan Monal
2. Mountain Peacock-Pheasant
3. Collared Partridge
4. Roul-Roul Partridge


We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap: 3/10
1. Cape Porcupine
2. Naked Mole Rat
3. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat


How many toes am I holding up? 1/9
3 Equids:
1. Plains Zebra

Let That Ruminate: 7/11
3 Pigs / Peccaries:
1. Common Warthog
2. Red River Hog
3. Babirusa

2 Hippo:
1. Pygmy Hippo
2 Giraffids:
1. Okapi
2. Giraffe

2 Non-Native Deer:
1. Southern Pudu
Bovids:
1. Red Forest Duiker

Check Your Feeders: 1/4
Eurasian Jay

Asian Songbird Challenge: COMPLETE
1. Javan Green Magpie
2. Bali Myna
3. White-Rumped Shama
4. Chestnut-Backed Thrush
5. Tricolour Parrotfinch

Thylo's Top 20:
3/8
1. Red-Billed Blue Magpie
2. Brazilian Tanager
3. Blue-Crowned Laughingthrush


Small But Will Fight: 7/10
2 Mongooses:
1. Meerkat
2. Dwarf Mongoose
5 Small Cats:
1. Rusty-Spotted Cat
2. Oncilla
3. Serval
4. Canada Lynx
2 Foxes:
1. Corsac Fox

Carnivore Carnival: 2/6
Cheetah
Ringtail

See, Don't Touch:
1. Dyeing Poison Dart Frog

River Giants: COMPLETE
1. Chinese Giant Salamander

Let's Give This Another Go:

1. Common Wombat
2. Squirrel Glider
3. Eastern Ring-Tailed Possum
4. Common Brushtail Possum
5. Ground Cuscus
6. Long-Nosed Potoroo
7. Parma Wallaby
8. Swamp Wallaby
9. Bennett's Wallaby

Don't You Forget About Me: 4/13
4 Bats:
1. Rodrigues Flying Fox
2 Armadillos:
1. Southern Three-Banded Armadillo
1 Anteater:
Giant Anteater
1 Sloth:
Linne's Two-Toed Sloth

Don't Turn on the Lights: COMPLETE
1. Ground Cuscus
2. Southern Three-Banded Armadillo
3. Linne's Two-Toed Sloth
4. Aye-Aye
5. Grey Slender Loris
6. Pygmy Slow Loris
7. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat
8. Potto
9. Moholi Bushbaby
10. Naked Mole Rat


Embrace the ABCs: 5/18
Bennett's Wallaby 2/2
Ring-Tailed Lemur 2/2
Western Gorilla 1/2
Meerkat 2/2
Lion 1/2
Tiger 2/2
Asian Short-Clawed Otter 2/2
African Bullfrog 1/2
Madagascar Hissing Cockroach 1/2


Second Chance Red List Challenge: COMPLETE
VU:
Giant Anteater
Red-Breasted Goose
Snowy Owl
Cuban Conure
EN:
Ring-Tailed Lemur
Collared Brown Lemur
Lar Gibbon
Grey Crowned Crane
CR:
Black-and-White Ruffed Lemur
Cotton-Top Tamarin
Hooded Vulture
Rüppell's Griffon Vulture
EW:
Socorro Dove
Partula tohiveana


Island Hoppers Challenge: 18/22
5 Mammals:
1. Ground Cuscus
2. Ring-Tailed Lemur
3. Collared Brown Lemur
4. Black-and-White Ruffed Lemur
5. Aye-Aye
6 Birds:
1. Paradise Shelduck
2. Socorro Dove
3. Javan Green Magpie
4. Montserrat Oriole
5. Bali Myna
6. Java Sparrow

6 Reptiles:
1. Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle
2. Galapagos Giant Tortoise
3. Round Island Skink
4. Mindanao Water Monitor
5. Komodo Dragon

3 Amphibians:
1. Sardinian Brook Salamander
2. Mallorcan Midwife Toad


I'm Hot Blooded for Cold Blood: 7/24
4 Monitors:
1. Gillen's Pygmy Monitor
2. Mindanao Water Monitor
3. Komodo Dragon

10 Venomous Snakes:
1. King Cobra
3 Pythons:
1. Anthill Python
2. Reticulated Python
4 Crocodiles / Gharials:
1. Philippine Crocodile
Turtles/Tortoises:
1. Egyptian Tortoise
2. Big-Headed Turtle
3. Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle
4. Annam Leaf Turtle
5. Red-Footed Tortoise
6. Galapagos Giant Tortoise


Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge: 8/15
1. Dingo
2. Southern Cassowary
3. Grey Crowned Crane
4. Laughing Kookaburra
5. Blue-and-Yellow Macaw
6. Black-Capped Squirrel Monkey
7. Pygmy Hippo
8. Galapagos Giant Tortoise


Rio Challenge: 5/8
1. Orange-Winged Amazon
2. Mealy Amazon
3. Sun Conure
4. Blue-and-Yellow Macaw
5. Blue-Throated Macaw

Unbearable Challenge: 1/8
1. Brown Bear

Hall of Champions: 1/11
1. Okapi

One-Zoo Wonder: COMPLETE
Asian Songbird Challenge

Bona Fide Rarity Hunter:
2/3
1. Eastern Ring-Tailed Possum
2. Scarlet-Chested Sunbird

Bonus: Hamerton have an undescribed Australian Ambassis species which is noted on ZTL as Ambassis spec. nov. and 'Northwest Glassfish' which is seemingly absent from any Australian collection, and I assume any other collection in the world.

Completed: 5/29
In Progress: 21/24
A long time coming..

Penguimonium:
1. Humboldt Penguin
2. Gentoo Penguin (Oceanografic)
3. King Penguin (Oceanografic)

Fly The Coop:
10/11
1 Megapode:
Australian Brushturkey
2 Cracids:
1. Great Curassow
1 Guineafowl:
Vulturine Guineafowl
1 New World Quail:
California Quail (Beale)
6 Phasianids:
1. Himalayan Monal
2. Mountain Peacock-Pheasant
3. Collared Partridge
4. Roul-Roul Partridge
5. Palawan Peacock-Pheasant (Beale)
6. Madagascar Partridge (Beale)


We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap: COMPLETE
1. Cape Porcupine
2. Naked Mole Rat
3. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat
4. Capybara (Beale)
5. Chacoan Mara (Beale)
6. Azara's Agouti (Beale)
7. Brazilian Cavy (Beale)
8. Black-Tailed Prairie Dog (Beale)
9. Patagonian Mara (Cotswold)
10. Gundi (Cotswold)


How many toes am I holding up? 4/9
3 Equids:
1. Plains Zebra
2. Hartmann's Mountain Zebra (Bioparc)
3 Tapir:
1. Brazilian Tapir (Beale)
3 Rhino:
1. White Rhino (Bioparc)

Let That Ruminate: 9/11
3 Pigs / Peccaries:
1. Common Warthog
2. Red River Hog
3. Babirusa
2 Hippo:
1. Pygmy Hippo
2. Common Hippo (Bioparc)
2 Giraffids:
1. Okapi
2. Giraffe
2 Non-Native Deer:
1. Southern Pudu
2. Sika Deer (Beale)
Bovids:
1. Red Forest Duiker
2. Sitatunga (Bioparc)
3. Congo Buffalo (Bioparc)
4. Eastern Bongo (Bioparc)
5. Kirk's Dik-Dik (Bioparc)
6. Blesbok (Bioparc)
7. Impala (Bioparc)
8. Thomson's Gazelle (Bioparc)
9. Addra Gazelle (Bioparc)
10. Ellipsen Waterbuck (Bioparc)
11. Addax (Bioparc)

Sea Shepherds: COMPLETE
1. Bottlenose Dolphin (Oceanografic)
2. Beluga (Oceanografic)


Check Your Feeders: 3/4
1. Eurasian Jay
2. Red-Billed Chough (Cotswold)
3. Bearded Reedling (Cotswold)


Asian Songbird Challenge: COMPLETE

Thylo's Top 20: 3/8

1. Red-Billed Blue Magpie
2. Brazilian Tanager
3. Blue-Crowned Laughingthrush

Small But Will Fight: 9/10
2 Mongooses:
1. Meerkat
2. Dwarf Mongoose
5 Small Cats:
1. Rusty-Spotted Cat
2. Oncilla
3. Serval
4. Canada Lynx
5. European Wildcat (Beale)
2 Foxes:
1. Corsac Fox
Red Panda:
1. Nepalese Red Panda (Cotswold)

Pinni-Party: COMPLETE
1. Harbour Seal (Oceanografic)
2. South American Sea Lion (Oceanografic)

Carnivore Carnival:
4/6
1. Cheetah
2. Ringtail
3. Fossa (Bioparc)
4. Binturong (Beale)


See, Don't Touch:
1. Dyeing Poison Dart Frog
2. Anthony's Poison Dart Frog (Bioparc)

River Giants: COMPLETE


Let's Give This Another Go:
1. Common Wombat
2. Squirrel Glider
3. Eastern Ring-Tailed Possum
4. Common Brushtail Possum
5. Ground Cuscus
6. Long-Nosed Potoroo
7. Parma Wallaby
8. Swamp Wallaby
9. Bennett's Wallaby

Don't You Forget About Me: 10/13
4 Bats:
1. Rodrigues Flying Fox
2. Egyptian Fruit Bat (Cotswold)
3. Straw-Coloured Fruit Bat (Cotswold)
4. Seba's Short-Tailed Bat (Cotswold)

2 Armadillos:
1. Southern Three-Banded Armadillo
2. Six-Banded Armadillo (Beale)
1 Anteater:
Giant Anteater
1 Sloth:
Linne's Two-Toed Sloth
2 Elephants:
1. African Bush Elephant (Bioparc)
1 Hyrax:
Rock Hyrax (Beale)

Don't Turn on the Lights: COMPLETE

Embrace the ABCs:
10/18
Bennett's Wallaby 2/2
Ring-Tailed Lemur 2/2
Western Gorilla 2/2 (Bioparc)
White Rhino 2/2 (Bioparc & Cotswold)

Meerkat 2/2
Lion 2/2 (Bioparc)
Tiger 2/2
Asian Short-Clawed Otter 2/2
Indian Peafowl 1/2 (Beale)
Pond Slider 2/2 (Oceanografic + Cotswold)

African Bullfrog 1/2
Sand Tiger Shark 1/2 (Cotswold)
Madagascar Hissing Cockroach 2/2 (Cotswold)


Second Chance Red List Challenge: COMPLETE

Island Hoppers Challenge:
20/22
5 Mammals:
1. Ground Cuscus
2. Ring-Tailed Lemur
3. Collared Brown Lemur
4. Black-and-White Ruffed Lemur
5. Aye-Aye
6 Birds:
1. Paradise Shelduck
2. Socorro Dove
3. Javan Green Magpie
4. Montserrat Oriole
5. Bali Myna
6. Java Sparrow
6 Reptiles:
1. Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle
2. Galapagos Giant Tortoise
3. Round Island Skink
4. Mindanao Water Monitor
5. Komodo Dragon
6. Radiated Tortoise (Oceanografic)
3 Amphibians:
1. Sardinian Brook Salamander
2. Mallorcan Midwife Toad
3. Golden Mantella (Bioparc)

I'm Hot Blooded for Cold Blood: 7/24
4 Monitors:
1. Gillen's Pygmy Monitor
2. Mindanao Water Monitor
3. Komodo Dragon
4. Black Tree Monitor (Cotswold)
2 Geckos:
1. Henkel's Leaf-Tailed Gecko (Cotswold)
1 Agamid:
1. Green Pricklenape (Cotswold)
10 Venomous Snakes:
1. King Cobra
2. Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake (Cotswold)
3. Western Gaboon Viper (Cotswold)
4. Eyelash Pit Viper (Cotswold)
5. Beautiful Pit Viper (Cotswold)

3 Pythons:
1. Anthill Python
2. Reticulated Python
3. African Rock Python (Bioparc)
4 Crocodiles / Gharials:
1. Philippine Crocodile
2. Dwarf Crocodile (Bioparc)
3. Nile Crocodile (Bioparc)
4. Slender-Snouted Crocodile (Oceanografic)

Turtles/Tortoises:
1. Egyptian Tortoise
2. Big-Headed Turtle
3. Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle
4. Annam Leaf Turtle
5. Red-Footed Tortoise
6. Galapagos Giant Tortoise
7. Aldabra Giant Tortoise (Oceanografic)
8. Radiated Tortoise (Oceanografic)
9. Hermann's Tortoise (Oceanografic)
10. Greek Tortoise (Oceanografic)
11. European Pond Turtle (Oceanografic)
12. Spanish Pond Turtle (Oceanografic)
13. Pond Slider (Oceanografic)
14. Green Sea Turtle (Oceanografic)
15. Loggerhead Sea Turtle (Oceanografic)
16. African Spurred Tortoise (Beale)
17. Pancake Tortoise (Cotswold)
18. Leopard Tortoise (Cotswold)
19. Yellow-Margined Box Turtle (Cotswold)


Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge: 14/15
1. Dingo
2. Southern Cassowary
3. Grey Crowned Crane
4. Laughing Kookaburra
5. Blue-and-Yellow Macaw
6. Black-Capped Squirrel Monkey
7. Pygmy Hippo
8. Galapagos Giant Tortoise
9. Nene (Oceanografic)
10. King Penguin (Oceanografic)
11. Black-Tailed Prairie Dog (Beale)
12. Clouded Leopard (Cotswold)
13. King Vulture (Cotswold)
14. Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake (Cotswold)

Rio Challenge: COMPLETE

1. Orange-Winged Amazon
2. Mealy Amazon
3. Sun Conure
4. Blue-and-Yellow Macaw
5. Blue-Throated Macaw
6. Yellow-Shouldered Amazon (Beale)
7. Patagonian Conure (Beale)
8. Red-and-Green Macaw (Beale)


Unbearable Challenge: 1/8
1. Brown Bear

Hall of Champions: 3/11
1. Okapi
2. Aldabra Giant Tortoise (Oceanografic)
3. Malagasy Turtle Dove (Oceanografic)

One-Zoo Wonder: COMPLETE

Bona Fide Rarity Hunter: COMPLETE

1. Eastern Ring-Tailed Possum
2. Scarlet-Chested Sunbird
3. Tufted Puffin (Oceanografic)

Thylo's Bonus Challenge: COMPLETE
Lion-Savanna Exhibit (Bioparc)

Completed: 10/29
In Progress: 18/19
Time to rest my fingers :p
 
So, hi everyone :) At this point there's an entire team running this challenge, as I've stepped in to help the very busy @ThylacineAlive and @ZooBinh. I've gone through and put all of the entries so far into the spreadsheets we made to keep track of everyone here.

First, GENERAL. None of these are required, except for the first, but they greatly help me. It might take you a few minutes longer, but it saves me at least a few more minutes, and I have 33+ people to keep track of compared to your one ;)
  • PLEASE make sure you are putting the locations in your posts! If you are including multiple visits in one post, you need to mark where you saw every animal. If a post spans multiple visits to the *same* facility, you need to put those dates.
  • When posting updates, clear out old entries. There are 250 required animals, plus 5 open-ended challenges that will likely add another 90+ entries for the average member. It’s a lot to dig through, especially if you aren’t also doing the following two things.
  • Number stuff. This helps both of us :) If our numbers don’t match, I know one of us screwed up somewhere.
  • Changing text format – bolding and/or changing text color, especially – is your friend!
Now, on to the member-specific things! This may not be complete. These are just things I caught while putting entries in.

- @aardvark250 Jury is still out on if Nicobar pigeon counts for Islands, just fyi.

- @birdsandbats You are at 16 turtles, not 15. You had golden coin turtle elsewhere on your list but didn’t put it under turtles. For Rio, what macaws did you see at Lake Superior? You initially posted that you saw blue and yellow, and green winged. A bit later you said you’d forgotten about the challenge (you hadn’t) and said you saw blue and yellow, and red and green at Lake Superior. Which is it?

- @CGSwans You need to include where you saw each species. A general list at the top is not okay. I worked out your species up until April 2nd (ZooChat Challenge Global 2023 - 10th Anniversary Special!), since it was one facility per post, but after that you did multiple facilities in one post. Also, please delete previous answers from your posts, or at least don’t include challenges that you don’t have additions to for that post.

- @endogenylove If you list the location at the top of the post, you don’t need to also list it for each animal. That’s just for if you visited multiple facilities for that post.

- @ifesbob You have yellow-spotted Amazon river turtle twice, at Lincoln Park and Smithsonian.

- @Kalaw You need to list the location you saw each species at. You can do this either by doing a list per each visit, or combining them and putting a note next to each entry. I need you to repost your second and third posts in this format, please. (ZooChat Challenge Global 2023 - 10th Anniversary Special! and ZooChat Challenge Global 2023 - 10th Anniversary Special!).

- @Marhi You can use one species from one visit in multiple categories. For example, Komodo dragon fits in with Red List, Island Hoppers, and Hot Blooded. You have several species that can go in multiple places that you’ve only used once. I’m not going to go back and fill this in for you. If you would like to make one updated post with it all fixed, and just include where you saw each, that’s fine and probably easiest :)

- @Neil chace Blue Jay does not count for Thylo’s Top 20, they must be a Corvus species, not just a corvid. Still deciding on if Nicobar counts for Island Hoppers.

- @nczoofan Desert cottontail and burrowing owl don’t count for Don’t Turn on the Lights, that isn’t a nocturnal set-up, just lower lighting. It needs to be dark/use alternative lighting. Madagascar ground boa does not count for Hot Blooded, they’re not pythons.

- @red river hog You have bongo listed twice for Let That Ruminate. You were also off by one on your count, so you’re at 9, not 11. Your list -
1-5 from DAK: Bongo, Greater Kudu, Blue Wildebeest, Sable, Bontebok
6 from Naples (you labelled it #7): Yellow-backed Duiker
7-9 from Tampa: Lowland Anoa, Nyala, Bay Duiker (plus bongo a second time)
For Usborne’s Scavenger Hunt you’ve listed Reeve’s Muntjac twice, at Tampa and DAK, so you’re at 14 and haven’t completed it.

- @SusScrofa
  • You’re at 14 for the Usborne challenge, you skipped #5 in your count.
  • For Hot Blooded, you need 4 crocs, not 3.
  • Three-toed box turtle is considered a subspecies of Eastern box by IUCN so doesn’t count, since you already have Eastern.
  • Where did you see the loggerhead sea turtle?
  • For Green jay, challenges always use IUCN for everything. IUCN recognizes Cyanocorax yncas as green jay and does not recognize Cyanocorax luxuosus.
  • Regarding your question about the outdoor bat enclosure, it doesn’t count.
  • You have Vampire bat twice for Don’t Turn On The Lights, along with Seba’s.
  • Unless you can provide photo proof that “Pine Mountain Safari” (assuming you mean Wild Animal Safari GA) has pure gaur, that isn’t going to count. I assume you can just replace it with the gaur at Bronx, anyway.
  • Please stick to names that a species is commonly called. What is a “fan parrot”? “Common agouti”? What bushmaster did you see?
- @twilighter You counted Parma Wallaby twice for Let’s Give This Another Go, at Berlin Zoo and Tilgate Nature Centre. European Mouflon doesn’t count for Let That Ruminate.

- @WalkingAgnatha For ones where you listed more than required, I took the top ones. I used Tomistoma for your Rarity Hunter entry (thanks Chli).

And two clarifications:

I see. IMHO, given that they have been counted in both of the previous Ungulate Challenges, they should count here too.

Domestics don’t count this year, and European Mouflon has always counted as a domestic in USA challenges.

Can this be clarified? It says 4 vertebrate species for the Threatened categories but just 'any 2 species' for the Red List challenge, so does that include inverts or not? If not I believe a fair few people have changes to be made...

Inverts do not count.
 
- @birdsandbats You are at 16 turtles, not 15. You had golden coin turtle elsewhere on your list but didn’t put it under turtles. For Rio, what macaws did you see at Lake Superior? You initially posted that you saw blue and yellow, and green winged. A bit later you said you’d forgotten about the challenge (you hadn’t) and said you saw blue and yellow, and red and green at Lake Superior. Which is it?
They are the same - Red-and-Green Macaw is just another name for Green-winged Macaw.
 
I don’t love the tone of that post, but will give you the benefit of the doubt that it comes across more combatively than intended.

I’m not going to go back in time six weeks to retrospectively satisfy new rules imposed by a new game runner, but duly noted for future posts.
 
I don’t love the tone of that post, but will give you the benefit of the doubt that it comes across more combatively than intended.

I’m not going to go back in time six weeks to retrospectively satisfy new rules imposed by a new game runner, but duly noted for future posts.

This is not a new rule, it has always been the rule for every challenge.
 
- @Kalaw You need to list the location you saw each species at. You can do this either by doing a list per each visit, or combining them and putting a note next to each entry. I need you to repost your second and third posts in this format, please. (ZooChat Challenge Global 2023 - 10th Anniversary Special! and ZooChat Challenge Global 2023 - 10th Anniversary Special!).

My apologies! Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

I looked at the Wildheart/Crystal Palace post and saw that all additions came from Wildheart.

For Tierpark Hagenbeck and Magdeburg, the updated list, specifying where each species was seen, can be viewed in the spoiler below.

I have also noticed a few errors in my posts, which are:

- I didn't realise Black Hardun were an agamid.
- It turns out that Hagenbeck's Indian Flying Foxes are hybrids, which I suspect don't count.
- It was mentioned upthread that invertebrates don't count for the Red List challenge, so my Tapairu Tree Snail has been removed.
- Forgot to note the Kaiser's Spotted Newt at Hagenbeck for the nocturnal challenge.

On that note:

Penguinmonium (Open-ended)
1. Humboldt Penguin (Spheniscus humboldti)
2. Gentoo Penguin (Pygoscelis papua) - Hagenbeck
3. King Penguin (Apenodytes patagonicus) - Hagenbeck
4. African Penguin (Spheniscus demersus) - Magdeburg

Fly the Coop (6/11)

Phasanids (6/6):
1. Collared Hill Partridge (Arborophila gingica)
2. Crested Wood Partridge (Rollulus rouloul)
3. Edward's Pheasant (Lophura edwardsi)
4. Mountain Peacock-pheasant (Polyplectron inopinatum)
5. Wild Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo) - Hagenbeck
6. Blue Eared-pheasant (Crossoptilon auritum) - Magdeburg

We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap (10/10) Complete!
1. Cape Porcupine (Hystrix africaeaustralis)
2. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat (Hypogeomys antimena)
3. Naked Mole Rat (Heterocephalus glaber)
4. Indian Crested Porcupine (Hystrix indica) - Hagenbeck
5. Patagonian Mara (Dolichotis patagonum) - Hagenbeck
6. Pallas' Squirrel (Callosciurus erythraeus) - Magdeburg
7. Swinhoe's Striped Squirrel (Tamiops swinhoei) - Magdeburg
8. African Brush-tailed Porcupine (Atherurus africanus) - Magdeburg
9. North American Porcupine (Erethizon dorsatum) - Magdeburg
10. Black-tailed Prairie Dog (Cynomys ludovicianus) - Magdeburg

How Many Toes Am I Holding Up? (5/10)

Equids (3/3):
1. Plains Zebra (Equus quagga)
2. Grevy's Zebra (Equus grevyi) - Magdeburg
3. Onager (Equus hemionus) - Hagenbeck

Rhinos (1/3):
1. Black Rhino (Diceros bicornis) - Magdeburg

Tapirs (1/3):

1. Brazilian Tapir (Tapirus terrestris) - Hagenbeck

Let that Ruminate (8/11 + open-ended)

Pigs / peccaries (3/3):
1. Red River Hog (Potamochoerus porcus)
2. Sulawesi Babirusa (Babyrousa babyrussa)
3. Warthog (Phacochoerus africanus) - Hagenbeck

Hippos (1/2):
1. Pygmy Hippopotamus (Choeropsis liberiensis)

Giraffes (2/2):
1. Okapi (Okapia johnstoni)
2. Giraffe (Giraffa camelopardalis)

Exotic Deer (2/2):
1. Reeve's Muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi) - Hagenbeck
2. Rocky Mountain Elk (Cervus canadensis) - Hagenbeck

Bovids (Open-ended):
1. Plains Buffalo (Bison bison) - Hagenbeck
2. Greater Kudu (Tragelaphus strepsiceros) - Hagenbeck
3. Blackbuck (Antilope cervicapra) - Hagenbeck
4. Himalayan Tahr (Hemitragus jemlahicus) - Hagenbeck
5. Impala (Aepyceros melampus) - Hagenbeck
6. Blesbok (Damaliscus pygargus) - Magdeburg
7. Defassa Waterbuck (Kobus ellipsiprymnus) - Magdeburg
8. Nile Lechwe (Kobus megaceros) - Magdeburg
9. Chinese Goral (Naemorhedus griseus) - Magdeburg
10. Nubian Ibex (Capra nubiana) - Magdeburg

Sea Shepherds (0/2):

Check your Feeders (0/4):

Asian Songbird Challenge (5/5): Complete!
1. Bali Starling (Leucopsar rothschildi)
2. Chestnut-backed Thrush (Geokichla dohertyi)
3. Forbes Parrot-finch (Erythrura tricolor)
4. Javan Green Magpie (Cissa thalassina)
5. White-rumped Shama (Copsychus malabaricus)

Thylo's Top 20 (5/8):
1. Blue-crowned Laughingthrush (Pterorhinus courtoisi)
2. Brazilian Tanager (Ramphocelus bresilia)
3. Golden-breasted Starling (Lamprotornis regius) - Hagenbeck
4. Taveta Golden Weaver (Ploceus castaneiceps) - Hagenbeck
5. Red-billed Blue Magpie (Urocissa erythroryncha) - Magdeburg

Small but Will Fight (5/10):
Mongooses (2/2)
1. Dwarf Mongoose (Helogale parvula)
2. Meerkat (Suricata suricatta)

Small-sized Cats (2/5)
1. Serval (Leptailurus serval)
2. Eurasian Lynx (Lynx lynx)

Red Pandas (1/1)
1. Nepalese Red Panda (Ailurus fulgens) - Hagenbeck

Pinni-Party (2/2): Complete!
1. Pacific Walrus (Odobenus rosmarus) - Hagenbeck
2. South American Fur Seal (Arctocephalus australis) - Hagenbeck

Carnivore Carnival (1/6):
1. Pacific Walrus (Odobenus rosmarus) - Hagenbeck

See Don't Touch (Open-ended):
1. Dyeing Dart Frog (Dendrobates tinctorius)
2. Blue Poison Dart Frog (Dendrobates tinctorius) - Horniman Museum
3. Green-and-black Poison Dart Frog (Dendrobates auratus) - Hagenbeck
4. Yellow-banded Poison Dart Frog (Dendrobates leucomelas) - Hagenbeck
5. Splashback Poison Dart Frog (Adelphobates galactonotus) - Magdeburg

Don't You Forget About Me (9/13):

Bats (4/4):
1. Rodrigues Flying Fox (Pteropus rodricensis)
2. Pallas's Long-tongued Bat (Glossophaga soricina) - Magdeburg
3. Seba's Short-tailed Bat (Carollia perspicillata) - Hagenbeck

Anteaters (1/1):
1. Southern Tamandua (Tamandua tetradactyla)

Sloths (1/1):
1. Linnaeus' Two-toed Sloth (Choloepus didactylus)

Elephants (2/2):
1. Asian Elephant (Elephas maximus) - Hagenbeck
2. African Elephant (Loxodonta africana) - Magdeburg

Hyraxes (1/1):
1. Rock Hyrax (Procavia capensis) - Hagenbeck

Don't Turn On The Lights (10/10): Complete!
1. Aye-Aye (Daubentonia madagascariensis)
2. Grey Slender Loris (Loris lydekkerianus)
3. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat (Hypogeomys antimena)
4. Moholi Galago (Galago moholi)
5. Naked Mole Rat (Heterocephalus glaber)
6. Potto (Perodicticus potto)
7. Pygmy Slow Loris (Xanthonycticebus pygmaeus)
8. Seba's Short-tailed Bat (Carollia perspicillata) - Hagenbeck
9. Blind Cave Tetra (Astyanax jordani) - Hagenbeck
10. Kaiser's Spotted Newt (Neurergus kaiseri)

Native Species Challenge (0/5):

Embrace the ABCs Challenge (22/36)
1. Bennett's Wallaby (Notamacropus ruforgriseus) (2/2)
2. Ring-tailed Lemur (Lemur catta) (2/2)
3. Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla) (1/2)
4. Meerkat (Suricata suricatta) (2/2)
5. Lion (Panthera leo) (2/2)
6. Tiger (Panthera tigris) (2/2)
7. African Bullfrog (Pyxicephalus adspersus) (1/2)
8. Madagascar Hissing Cockroach (Gromphadorhina oblongonota) (2/2)
9. Asian Elephant (Elephas maximus) (1/2) - Hagenbeck
10. Asian Short-clawed Otter (Aonyx cinerea) (2/2) - Hagenbeck and London
11. African Penguin (Spheniscus demersus) (1/2) - Magdeburg
12. Bald Eagle (Haliaeetus leucocephalus) (1/2) - Magdeburg
13. Hyacinth Macaw (Anodorhynchus hyacinthinus) (2/2) - Magdeburg and London
14. Blacktip Reef Shark (Carcharhinus melanopterus) (1/2) - Hagenbeck

Second Chance Red List Challenge (13/14):

Vulnerable (/4):
1. Pink Pigeon (Nesoenas mayeri)
2. Montserrat Oriole (Icterus oberi)
3. Mindanao Bleeding-heart (Gallicolumba crinigera)
4. Java Sparrow (Lonchura oryzivora)

Endangered (/4):
1. Purple-naped Lory (Lorius domicella)
2. Wrinkled Hornbill (Rhabdotorrhinus corrugatus)
3. Sumatran Laughingthrush (Garrulax bicolor)
4. Golden-headed Lion Tamarin (Leontopithecus chrysomelas)

Critically Endangered (/4):
1. Blue-throated Macaw (Ara glaucogularis)
2. Edward's Pheasant (Lophura edwardsi)
3. Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla)
4. Bali Myna (Leucopsar rothschildi)

Extinct in the Wild (/2):
1. Socorro Dove (Zenaida graysoni)

Island Hoppers Challenge (19/22)

Mammals (5/5)
1. Aye-Aye (Daubentonia madagascariensis)
2. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat (Hypogeomys antimena)
3. Ring-tailed Lemur (Lemur catta)
4. Sulawesi Babirusa (Babyrousa babyrussa)
5. Sulawesi Crested Macaque (Macaca nigra)

Birds (6/6)
1. Javan Green Magpie (Cissa thalassina)
2. Bali Myna (Leucopsar rothschildi)
3. Java Sparrow (Lonchura oryzivora)
4. Mindanao Bleeding-heart (Gallicolumba crinigera)
5. Montserrat Oriole (Icterus oberi)
6. Pink Pigeon (Nesoenas mayeri)

Reptiles (6/6)
1. Round Island Skink (Leiolopisma telfarii)
2. Galapagos Giant Tortoise (Chelonoidis niger)
3. Komodo Dragon (Varanus komodoensis)
4. Mindanao Water Monitor (Varanus cumingi)
5. Philippine Crocodile (Crocodylus mindorensis)
6. Dumeril's Boa (Acrantophis dumerili)

Amphibians (2/3)
1. Sardinian Brook Salamander (Euproctus platycephalus)
2. Majorcan Midwife Toad (Alytes muletensis)

I'm Hot Blooded (For Cold Blood) (20/24 + Open-ended)

Monitors (4/4)
1. Blue-spotted Tree Monitor (Varanus macraei)
2. Komodo Dragon (Varanus komodoensis)
3. Mindanao Water Monitor (Varanus cumingi)
4. Black-throated Monitor (Varanus albigularis) - Magdeburg

Geckos (2/2)
1. William's Electric Blue Gecko (Lygodactylus williamsi)
2. Standing's Day Gecko (Phelsuma standingi)

Agamids (1/1)
1. Black Hardun (Stellagama stellio)

Venomous Snakes (6/10)
1. King Cobra (Ophiophagus hannah)
2. Eastern Green Mamba (Dendroaspis angusticeps) - Hagenbeck
3. Western Diamondback (Crotalus atrox) - Hagenbeck
4. Monocled Cobra (Naja kaouthia) - Hagenbeck
5. Beautiful Pitviper (Trimeresurus venustus) - Hagenbeck
6. Western Gaboon Viper (Bitis rhinoceros) - Hagenbeck

Pythons (3/3)
1. Reticulated Python (Malayopython reticulatus)
2. Royal Python (Python regius)
3. Green Tree Python (Morelia viridis)

Crocodiles/gharials (3/4)
1. Philippine Crocodile (Crocodylus mindorensis)
2. Nile Crocodile (Crocodylus niloticus) - Hagenbeck
3. Western Dwarf Crocodile (Osteolaemus tetraspis) - Magdeburg

Turtles and Tortoises (Open-ended)
1. Galapagos Giant Tortoise (Chelonoidis niger)
2. Spur-thighed Tortoise (Testudo graeca)
3. Red-footed Tortoise (Chelonoidis carbonarius)
4. Annam Leaf Turtle (Mauremys annamensis)
5. Big-headed Pond Turtle (Mauremys reevesii) - Hagenbeck
6. McCord's Snake-necked Turtle (Chelodina mccordi) - Hagenbeck
7. Red-bellied Short-necked Turtle (Emydura subglobosa) - Hagenbeck

Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge (12/15)
1. Bolivian Squirrel Monkey (Saimiri boliviensis)
2. Pygmy Hippopotamus (Choeropsis liberiensis)
3. Galapagos Giant Tortoise (Chelonoidis niger)
4. Red Kangaroo (Osphranter rufus) - Hagenbeck
5. Black-tailed Prairie Dog (Cynomys ludovicianus) - Hagenbeck
6. Sumatran Orangutan (Pongo abelii) - Hagenbeck
7. Reeve's Muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi) - Hagenbeck
8. Polar Bear (Ursus maritimus) - Hagenbeck
9. King Penguin (Aptenodytes patagonicus) - Hagenbeck
10. East African Crowned Crane (Balearica regulorum) - Hagenbeck
11. American Flamingo (Phoenicopterus ruber) - Hagenbeck
12. Blue-winged Kookaburra (Dacelo leachii) - Magdeburg

Rio Challenge (8/8) Complete!
1. Blue-throated Macaw (Ara glaucogularis)
2. Green-winged Macaw (Ara chloropterus)
3. Patagonian Conure (Cyanoliseus patagonus)
4. Blue-throated Macaw (Primolius couloni) - Magdeburg
5. Red-shouldered Macaw (Diopsittaca nobilis) - Magdeburg
6. Scarlet Macaw (Ara macao) - Magdeburg
7. Hyacinth Macaw (Anodorhynchus hyacinthinus) - Magdeburg
8. Black-headed Parrot (Pionites melanocephalus) - Magdeburg

The Unbearable Challenge (2/8)
1. Polar Bear (Ursus maritimus) - Hagenbeck
2. Kamchatka Brown Bear (Ursus arctos) - Hagenbeck

Hall of Champions (1/11)
1. Okapi (Okapia johnstoni)

Bona Fide Rarity Hunter (2/3 + 1/3 bonus)
1. Scarlet-chested Sunbird (Chalcomitra senegalensis)
2. Red-billed Oxpecker (Buphagus erythrorhynchus)

Bona Fide Rarity Hunter Bonus:
1. Scarlet-chested Sunbird (Chalcomitra senegalensis)

I am really sorry if this has already been mentioned, but does Russia count as Europe for the sake of this challenge? Also, could I count a species that is housed at other collections on the continent, but is off-display at all barring the collection in which I saw them? Thanks!

Thylo's Bonus Challenge (1/1):
1. Tierpark Hagenbeck's Eismeer (Polar Bear + Pacific Walrus) - Hagenbeck

Adjusting for those mistakes leaves us with:

In-Progress:
Penguimonium
Fly the Coop
How Many Toes Am I Holding Up?
Let that Ruminate
Thylo's Top 20
Small but Will Fight
See, Don't Touch
Let's Give this Another Go
Don't You Forget About Me
Embrace the ABCs Challenge
Island Hoppers Challenge
I'm Hot Blooded (For Cold Blood)
Usborne's Scavenger Challenge
Bona Fide Rarity Hunter
The Unbearable Challenge
Carnivore Carnival
Second Chance Red List

Completed (8/29):
Asian Songbird Challenge
River Giants
One Zoo Wonder
We're Gonna Need A Bigger Trap
Pinni-Party
Rio Challenge
Thylo's Bonus Challenge
Don't Turn On The Lights
 
  • PLEASE make sure you are putting the locations in your posts! If you are including multiple visits in one post, you need to mark where you saw every animal. If a post spans multiple visits to the *same* facility, you need to put those dates.
  • Is this the same if you spend 2 days in a row at one facility, as I stayed over near and spent 2 days going round Chester last month (I assume it is, just making sure)?
 
- @Neil chace Blue Jay does not count for Thylo’s Top 20, they must be a Corvus species, not just a corvid. Still deciding on if Nicobar counts for Island Hoppers
Noted. I'll remove Blue Jay from my list for that category. I should see an actual Corvus later this year anyways, so it's not going to make a difference. I'm not really sure why Nicobar Pigeon is controversial for Island Hoppers, since it's island endemic except for the occasional vagrant, but I should see enough endemic birds to replace it next week.
 
  • You’re at 14 for the Usborne challenge, you skipped #5 in your count.

Will use Blue-yellow Macaw (Brevard Zoo) for #15.

  • For Hot Blooded, you need 4 crocs, not 3

Will use Orinoco Crocodile (Miami) for #4.

  • Three-toed box turtle is considered a subspecies of Eastern box by IUCN so doesn’t count, since you already have Eastern.

So at 81 total then.

  • Where did you see the loggerhead sea turtle?
Tidelands Nature Center. And a couple of other places as well.

  • For Green jay, challenges always use IUCN for everything. IUCN recognizes Cyanocorax yncas as green jay and does not recognize Cyanocorax luxuosus.

So its good then. If any issue arises later, you can also swap it out for Common Raven (Beardsley Zoo).

  • Regarding your question about the outdoor bat enclosure, it doesn’t count.
  • You have Vampire bat twice for Don’t Turn On The Lights, along with Seba’s.

Ah, misinterpreted the challenge description thinking same species can be used twice. These are the 3 new entries for the challenge.

8. Aardvark (Bronx)
9. Cactus Mouse (Bronx)
10. California Mouse (Bronx)

  • Unless you can provide photo proof that “Pine Mountain Safari” (assuming you mean Wild Animal Safari GA) has pure gaur, that isn’t going to count. I assume you can just replace it with the gaur at Bronx, anyway.

Eh, you can swap out for the Gaurs at Bronx or Miami, but why am I being singled out as needing to provide photo proof? I'll eventually upload photos but the curved horns and skull shape indicate pure Gaur and not Gayal. How can you be certain other participants aren't seeing "hybrids" on their visits.

  • Please stick to names that a species is commonly called. What is a “fan parrot”? “Common agouti”? What bushmaster did you see?

Names from my old encyclopedias I guess.

Agouti = Dasyprocta leporina
Parrot = Deroptyus accipitrinus
Bushmaster = Lachesis muta


So aside from one less turtle, every challenge should be back to normal.
 
My apologies! Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

I looked at the Wildheart/Crystal Palace post and saw that all additions came from Wildheart.

For Tierpark Hagenbeck and Magdeburg, the updated list, specifying where each species was seen, can be viewed in the spoiler below.

I have also noticed a few errors in my posts, which are:

- I didn't realise Black Hardun were an agamid.
- It turns out that Hagenbeck's Indian Flying Foxes are hybrids, which I suspect don't count.
- It was mentioned upthread that invertebrates don't count for the Red List challenge, so my Tapairu Tree Snail has been removed.
- Forgot to note the Kaiser's Spotted Newt at Hagenbeck for the nocturnal challenge.

On that note:

Penguinmonium (Open-ended)
1. Humboldt Penguin (Spheniscus humboldti)
2. Gentoo Penguin (Pygoscelis papua) - Hagenbeck
3. King Penguin (Apenodytes patagonicus) - Hagenbeck
4. African Penguin (Spheniscus demersus) - Magdeburg

Fly the Coop (6/11)

Phasanids (6/6):
1. Collared Hill Partridge (Arborophila gingica)
2. Crested Wood Partridge (Rollulus rouloul)
3. Edward's Pheasant (Lophura edwardsi)
4. Mountain Peacock-pheasant (Polyplectron inopinatum)
5. Wild Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo) - Hagenbeck
6. Blue Eared-pheasant (Crossoptilon auritum) - Magdeburg

We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap (10/10) Complete!
1. Cape Porcupine (Hystrix africaeaustralis)
2. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat (Hypogeomys antimena)
3. Naked Mole Rat (Heterocephalus glaber)
4. Indian Crested Porcupine (Hystrix indica) - Hagenbeck
5. Patagonian Mara (Dolichotis patagonum) - Hagenbeck
6. Pallas' Squirrel (Callosciurus erythraeus) - Magdeburg
7. Swinhoe's Striped Squirrel (Tamiops swinhoei) - Magdeburg
8. African Brush-tailed Porcupine (Atherurus africanus) - Magdeburg
9. North American Porcupine (Erethizon dorsatum) - Magdeburg
10. Black-tailed Prairie Dog (Cynomys ludovicianus) - Magdeburg

How Many Toes Am I Holding Up? (5/10)

Equids (3/3):
1. Plains Zebra (Equus quagga)
2. Grevy's Zebra (Equus grevyi) - Magdeburg
3. Onager (Equus hemionus) - Hagenbeck

Rhinos (1/3):
1. Black Rhino (Diceros bicornis) - Magdeburg

Tapirs (1/3):

1. Brazilian Tapir (Tapirus terrestris) - Hagenbeck

Let that Ruminate (8/11 + open-ended)

Pigs / peccaries (3/3):
1. Red River Hog (Potamochoerus porcus)
2. Sulawesi Babirusa (Babyrousa babyrussa)
3. Warthog (Phacochoerus africanus) - Hagenbeck

Hippos (1/2):
1. Pygmy Hippopotamus (Choeropsis liberiensis)

Giraffes (2/2):
1. Okapi (Okapia johnstoni)
2. Giraffe (Giraffa camelopardalis)

Exotic Deer (2/2):
1. Reeve's Muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi) - Hagenbeck
2. Rocky Mountain Elk (Cervus canadensis) - Hagenbeck

Bovids (Open-ended):
1. Plains Buffalo (Bison bison) - Hagenbeck
2. Greater Kudu (Tragelaphus strepsiceros) - Hagenbeck
3. Blackbuck (Antilope cervicapra) - Hagenbeck
4. Himalayan Tahr (Hemitragus jemlahicus) - Hagenbeck
5. Impala (Aepyceros melampus) - Hagenbeck
6. Blesbok (Damaliscus pygargus) - Magdeburg
7. Defassa Waterbuck (Kobus ellipsiprymnus) - Magdeburg
8. Nile Lechwe (Kobus megaceros) - Magdeburg
9. Chinese Goral (Naemorhedus griseus) - Magdeburg
10. Nubian Ibex (Capra nubiana) - Magdeburg

Sea Shepherds (0/2):

Check your Feeders (0/4):

Asian Songbird Challenge (5/5): Complete!
1. Bali Starling (Leucopsar rothschildi)
2. Chestnut-backed Thrush (Geokichla dohertyi)
3. Forbes Parrot-finch (Erythrura tricolor)
4. Javan Green Magpie (Cissa thalassina)
5. White-rumped Shama (Copsychus malabaricus)

Thylo's Top 20 (5/8):
1. Blue-crowned Laughingthrush (Pterorhinus courtoisi)
2. Brazilian Tanager (Ramphocelus bresilia)
3. Golden-breasted Starling (Lamprotornis regius) - Hagenbeck
4. Taveta Golden Weaver (Ploceus castaneiceps) - Hagenbeck
5. Red-billed Blue Magpie (Urocissa erythroryncha) - Magdeburg

Small but Will Fight (5/10):
Mongooses (2/2)
1. Dwarf Mongoose (Helogale parvula)
2. Meerkat (Suricata suricatta)

Small-sized Cats (2/5)
1. Serval (Leptailurus serval)
2. Eurasian Lynx (Lynx lynx)

Red Pandas (1/1)
1. Nepalese Red Panda (Ailurus fulgens) - Hagenbeck

Pinni-Party (2/2): Complete!
1. Pacific Walrus (Odobenus rosmarus) - Hagenbeck
2. South American Fur Seal (Arctocephalus australis) - Hagenbeck

Carnivore Carnival (1/6):
1. Pacific Walrus (Odobenus rosmarus) - Hagenbeck

See Don't Touch (Open-ended):
1. Dyeing Dart Frog (Dendrobates tinctorius)
2. Blue Poison Dart Frog (Dendrobates tinctorius) - Horniman Museum
3. Green-and-black Poison Dart Frog (Dendrobates auratus) - Hagenbeck
4. Yellow-banded Poison Dart Frog (Dendrobates leucomelas) - Hagenbeck
5. Splashback Poison Dart Frog (Adelphobates galactonotus) - Magdeburg

Don't You Forget About Me (9/13):

Bats (4/4):
1. Rodrigues Flying Fox (Pteropus rodricensis)
2. Pallas's Long-tongued Bat (Glossophaga soricina) - Magdeburg
3. Seba's Short-tailed Bat (Carollia perspicillata) - Hagenbeck

Anteaters (1/1):
1. Southern Tamandua (Tamandua tetradactyla)

Sloths (1/1):
1. Linnaeus' Two-toed Sloth (Choloepus didactylus)

Elephants (2/2):
1. Asian Elephant (Elephas maximus) - Hagenbeck
2. African Elephant (Loxodonta africana) - Magdeburg

Hyraxes (1/1):
1. Rock Hyrax (Procavia capensis) - Hagenbeck

Don't Turn On The Lights (10/10): Complete!
1. Aye-Aye (Daubentonia madagascariensis)
2. Grey Slender Loris (Loris lydekkerianus)
3. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat (Hypogeomys antimena)
4. Moholi Galago (Galago moholi)
5. Naked Mole Rat (Heterocephalus glaber)
6. Potto (Perodicticus potto)
7. Pygmy Slow Loris (Xanthonycticebus pygmaeus)
8. Seba's Short-tailed Bat (Carollia perspicillata) - Hagenbeck
9. Blind Cave Tetra (Astyanax jordani) - Hagenbeck
10. Kaiser's Spotted Newt (Neurergus kaiseri)

Native Species Challenge (0/5):

Embrace the ABCs Challenge (22/36)
1. Bennett's Wallaby (Notamacropus ruforgriseus) (2/2)
2. Ring-tailed Lemur (Lemur catta) (2/2)
3. Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla) (1/2)
4. Meerkat (Suricata suricatta) (2/2)
5. Lion (Panthera leo) (2/2)
6. Tiger (Panthera tigris) (2/2)
7. African Bullfrog (Pyxicephalus adspersus) (1/2)
8. Madagascar Hissing Cockroach (Gromphadorhina oblongonota) (2/2)
9. Asian Elephant (Elephas maximus) (1/2) - Hagenbeck
10. Asian Short-clawed Otter (Aonyx cinerea) (2/2) - Hagenbeck and London
11. African Penguin (Spheniscus demersus) (1/2) - Magdeburg
12. Bald Eagle (Haliaeetus leucocephalus) (1/2) - Magdeburg
13. Hyacinth Macaw (Anodorhynchus hyacinthinus) (2/2) - Magdeburg and London
14. Blacktip Reef Shark (Carcharhinus melanopterus) (1/2) - Hagenbeck

Second Chance Red List Challenge (13/14):

Vulnerable (/4):
1. Pink Pigeon (Nesoenas mayeri)
2. Montserrat Oriole (Icterus oberi)
3. Mindanao Bleeding-heart (Gallicolumba crinigera)
4. Java Sparrow (Lonchura oryzivora)

Endangered (/4):
1. Purple-naped Lory (Lorius domicella)
2. Wrinkled Hornbill (Rhabdotorrhinus corrugatus)
3. Sumatran Laughingthrush (Garrulax bicolor)
4. Golden-headed Lion Tamarin (Leontopithecus chrysomelas)

Critically Endangered (/4):
1. Blue-throated Macaw (Ara glaucogularis)
2. Edward's Pheasant (Lophura edwardsi)
3. Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla)
4. Bali Myna (Leucopsar rothschildi)

Extinct in the Wild (/2):
1. Socorro Dove (Zenaida graysoni)

Island Hoppers Challenge (19/22)

Mammals (5/5)
1. Aye-Aye (Daubentonia madagascariensis)
2. Malagasy Giant Jumping Rat (Hypogeomys antimena)
3. Ring-tailed Lemur (Lemur catta)
4. Sulawesi Babirusa (Babyrousa babyrussa)
5. Sulawesi Crested Macaque (Macaca nigra)

Birds (6/6)
1. Javan Green Magpie (Cissa thalassina)
2. Bali Myna (Leucopsar rothschildi)
3. Java Sparrow (Lonchura oryzivora)
4. Mindanao Bleeding-heart (Gallicolumba crinigera)
5. Montserrat Oriole (Icterus oberi)
6. Pink Pigeon (Nesoenas mayeri)

Reptiles (6/6)
1. Round Island Skink (Leiolopisma telfarii)
2. Galapagos Giant Tortoise (Chelonoidis niger)
3. Komodo Dragon (Varanus komodoensis)
4. Mindanao Water Monitor (Varanus cumingi)
5. Philippine Crocodile (Crocodylus mindorensis)
6. Dumeril's Boa (Acrantophis dumerili)

Amphibians (2/3)
1. Sardinian Brook Salamander (Euproctus platycephalus)
2. Majorcan Midwife Toad (Alytes muletensis)

I'm Hot Blooded (For Cold Blood) (20/24 + Open-ended)

Monitors (4/4)
1. Blue-spotted Tree Monitor (Varanus macraei)
2. Komodo Dragon (Varanus komodoensis)
3. Mindanao Water Monitor (Varanus cumingi)
4. Black-throated Monitor (Varanus albigularis) - Magdeburg

Geckos (2/2)
1. William's Electric Blue Gecko (Lygodactylus williamsi)
2. Standing's Day Gecko (Phelsuma standingi)

Agamids (1/1)
1. Black Hardun (Stellagama stellio)

Venomous Snakes (6/10)
1. King Cobra (Ophiophagus hannah)
2. Eastern Green Mamba (Dendroaspis angusticeps) - Hagenbeck
3. Western Diamondback (Crotalus atrox) - Hagenbeck
4. Monocled Cobra (Naja kaouthia) - Hagenbeck
5. Beautiful Pitviper (Trimeresurus venustus) - Hagenbeck
6. Western Gaboon Viper (Bitis rhinoceros) - Hagenbeck

Pythons (3/3)
1. Reticulated Python (Malayopython reticulatus)
2. Royal Python (Python regius)
3. Green Tree Python (Morelia viridis)

Crocodiles/gharials (3/4)
1. Philippine Crocodile (Crocodylus mindorensis)
2. Nile Crocodile (Crocodylus niloticus) - Hagenbeck
3. Western Dwarf Crocodile (Osteolaemus tetraspis) - Magdeburg

Turtles and Tortoises (Open-ended)
1. Galapagos Giant Tortoise (Chelonoidis niger)
2. Spur-thighed Tortoise (Testudo graeca)
3. Red-footed Tortoise (Chelonoidis carbonarius)
4. Annam Leaf Turtle (Mauremys annamensis)
5. Big-headed Pond Turtle (Mauremys reevesii) - Hagenbeck
6. McCord's Snake-necked Turtle (Chelodina mccordi) - Hagenbeck
7. Red-bellied Short-necked Turtle (Emydura subglobosa) - Hagenbeck

Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge (12/15)
1. Bolivian Squirrel Monkey (Saimiri boliviensis)
2. Pygmy Hippopotamus (Choeropsis liberiensis)
3. Galapagos Giant Tortoise (Chelonoidis niger)
4. Red Kangaroo (Osphranter rufus) - Hagenbeck
5. Black-tailed Prairie Dog (Cynomys ludovicianus) - Hagenbeck
6. Sumatran Orangutan (Pongo abelii) - Hagenbeck
7. Reeve's Muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi) - Hagenbeck
8. Polar Bear (Ursus maritimus) - Hagenbeck
9. King Penguin (Aptenodytes patagonicus) - Hagenbeck
10. East African Crowned Crane (Balearica regulorum) - Hagenbeck
11. American Flamingo (Phoenicopterus ruber) - Hagenbeck
12. Blue-winged Kookaburra (Dacelo leachii) - Magdeburg

Rio Challenge (8/8) Complete!
1. Blue-throated Macaw (Ara glaucogularis)
2. Green-winged Macaw (Ara chloropterus)
3. Patagonian Conure (Cyanoliseus patagonus)
4. Blue-throated Macaw (Primolius couloni) - Magdeburg
5. Red-shouldered Macaw (Diopsittaca nobilis) - Magdeburg
6. Scarlet Macaw (Ara macao) - Magdeburg
7. Hyacinth Macaw (Anodorhynchus hyacinthinus) - Magdeburg
8. Black-headed Parrot (Pionites melanocephalus) - Magdeburg

The Unbearable Challenge (2/8)
1. Polar Bear (Ursus maritimus) - Hagenbeck
2. Kamchatka Brown Bear (Ursus arctos) - Hagenbeck

Hall of Champions (1/11)
1. Okapi (Okapia johnstoni)

Bona Fide Rarity Hunter (2/3 + 1/3 bonus)
1. Scarlet-chested Sunbird (Chalcomitra senegalensis)
2. Red-billed Oxpecker (Buphagus erythrorhynchus)

Bona Fide Rarity Hunter Bonus:
1. Scarlet-chested Sunbird (Chalcomitra senegalensis)

I am really sorry if this has already been mentioned, but does Russia count as Europe for the sake of this challenge? Also, could I count a species that is housed at other collections on the continent, but is off-display at all barring the collection in which I saw them? Thanks!

Thylo's Bonus Challenge (1/1):
1. Tierpark Hagenbeck's Eismeer (Polar Bear + Pacific Walrus) - Hagenbeck

Adjusting for those mistakes leaves us with:

In-Progress:
Penguimonium
Fly the Coop
How Many Toes Am I Holding Up?
Let that Ruminate
Thylo's Top 20
Small but Will Fight
See, Don't Touch
Let's Give this Another Go
Don't You Forget About Me
Embrace the ABCs Challenge
Island Hoppers Challenge
I'm Hot Blooded (For Cold Blood)
Usborne's Scavenger Challenge
Bona Fide Rarity Hunter
The Unbearable Challenge
Carnivore Carnival
Second Chance Red List

Completed (8/29):
Asian Songbird Challenge
River Giants
One Zoo Wonder
We're Gonna Need A Bigger Trap
Pinni-Party
Rio Challenge
Thylo's Bonus Challenge
Don't Turn On The Lights

Thank you so much for fixing this all! There's several people, including myself :oops:, that didn't realize a lot of small lizards are in Agamidae and not just ones called agamas, so you're not alone there lol. Correct, hybrids don't count.


  • Is this the same if you spend 2 days in a row at one facility, as I stayed over near and spent 2 days going round Chester last month (I assume it is, just making sure)?

If it's two days in a row it's not such a big deal, but it's easy enough to say you were there 10th-11th April or whatever. If it's the same facility you don't need to note which species you saw which days, just the days you were there. It's more because of things like a new species being signed but not out until several months later, that sort of thing.


Noted. I'll remove Blue Jay from my list for that category. I should see an actual Corvus later this year anyways, so it's not going to make a difference. I'm not really sure why Nicobar Pigeon is controversial for Island Hoppers, since it's island endemic except for the occasional vagrant, but I should see enough endemic birds to replace it next week.

Corvus is easy enough in the northeast :) The head game official (lol) hasn't had a chance to double check past rulings for Nicobar yet, is all. I also had it but switched it out, easy enough to do with birds.


Will use Blue-yellow Macaw (Brevard Zoo) for #15.



Will use Orinoco Crocodile (Miami) for #4.



So at 81 total then.


Tidelands Nature Center. And a couple of other places as well.



So its good then. If any issue arises later, you can also swap it out for Common Raven (Beardsley Zoo).



Ah, misinterpreted the challenge description thinking same species can be used twice. These are the 3 new entries for the challenge.

8. Aardvark (Bronx)
9. Cactus Mouse (Bronx)
10. California Mouse (Bronx)



Eh, you can swap out for the Gaurs at Bronx or Miami, but why am I being singled out as needing to provide photo proof? I'll eventually upload photos but the curved horns and skull shape indicate pure Gaur and not Gayal. How can you be certain other participants aren't seeing "hybrids" on their visits.



Names from my old encyclopedias I guess.

Agouti = Dasyprocta leporina
Parrot = Deroptyus accipitrinus
Bushmaster = Lachesis muta


So aside from one less turtle, every challenge should be back to normal.

Got all of those in, thanks. For gaur, that facility's animals came from Texas and the purity is very questionable; there's several places with "gaur" that have a lot of cattle blood in them. You're the only one that saw them at one of those facilities and not one of the AZA places with them. Thanks for those species names, as well. A few others were easy enough to definitively figure out, but those two didn't have certain answers so I didn't want to assume my guesses were correct. For bushmaster, there's two species in the USA, South American and Central American, but the English name signed is often just "bushmaster" (and sometimes the binomial name is wrong).
 
If it's two days in a row it's not such a big deal, but it's easy enough to say you were there 10th-11th April or whatever. If it's the same facility you don't need to note which species you saw which days, just the days you were there. It's more because of things like a new species being signed but not out until several months later, that sort of thing.
Thanks for explaining, it was the 4th and 5th of April if that means anything. It was mainly me thinking that I could possibly get a one zoo wonder over my trip, although I'm not sure how likely that will be anyway. Another reason was that I kind of treated it as one visit over two days, as I specifically split the trip into the west half of the zoo on the sunnier first day, and the east half on the rainy second. I did get through everything on the west side with more than enough time on the first day, so went over to the other half to start taking in some of the start attractions (Realm of the Red Ape, Spirit of the Jaguar briefly), so I probably could have seen a few more species that day if I really tried.
 
Hey everyone,

I'm really sorry I've been absent from this thread the past few months. I've really struggled with keeping up to date on posts here, and then things just got way overwhelming as the game continued to run (which isn't a bad thing, I'm glad it's going well and so many are enjoying themselves!!). I'll make a proper post to explain tomorrow when I have a little more time, as I understand that things maybe got a little unnecessarily confusing with @TinoPup jumping in to assist...

~Thylo
 
Finally warm enough for lemurs to be outside at the Buffalo Zoo!

Embrace the ABC's (9/36):
9. Ring-tailed Lemur- Buffalo Zoo

Island Hoppers (17/22):
17. Ring-tailed Lemur- Lemur catta

Challenges completed remains 5/29.
Bergen County Zoo- 5/15/23
Turtle Back Zoo- 5/15/23

Fly The Coop (4/11):
4. Indian Blue Peafowl- Pavo cristatus- Turtle Back

We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap (9/10):
8. Black-tailed Prairie Dog- Cynomys ludovicianus- Bergen County
9. African Crested Porcupine- Hystrix cristata- Turtle Back

How Many Toes Am I Holding Up? (5/9):
5. Baird's Tapir- Tapirus bairdii- Bergen County

Let That Ruminate (7/11 plus bovids):
6. American Elk- Cervus canadensis- Bergen County
7. Central American Red Brocket- Mazama temama
Bovids:
10. Bontebok- Damaliscus pygargus- Turtle Back
11. Bongo- Tragelaphus eurycerus isaaci- Turtle Back

Check Your Feeders (2/4):
2. Common Raven- Corvus corax- Turtle Back

Thylo's Top 20 (6/8):
6. Common Raven- Corvus corax- Turtle Back

Carnivore Carnival (2/6):
1. Maned Wolf- Turtle Back
2. Cheetah- Turtle Back

Native Species Challenge (3/5):
3. Jaguar- Panthera onca- Turtle Back

Embrace the ABC's (13/36):
10. Bennett's Wallaby (2/2)- Turtle Back Zoo
11. Indian Peafowl- Turtle Back Zoo
12. African Penguin (2/2)- Turtle Back Zoo
13. Madagascar Hissing Cockroach- Turtle Back Zoo

Hot Blooded for Cold Blood (18/24 plus chelonians):
17. Tomistoma- Tomistoma schlegelii- Turtle Back
18. Dwarf Crocodile- Osteolaemus tetrapsis- Turtle Back
Chelonians:
20. Yellow-footed Tortoise- Chelonoidis denticulata- Bergen County
21. North American Wood Turtle- Glyptemis insculpta- Bergen County
22. Diamondback Terrapin- Malaclemys terrapin- Bergen County
23. Black-Breasted Leaf Turtle- Geoemyda spengleri- Turtle Back

Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge (11/15):
9. Black-tailed Prairie Dog- Cynomys ludovicianus- Bergen County
10. Clouded Leopard- Neofelis nebulosa- Turtle Back
11. American Flamingo- Phoenicopterus ruber- Turtle Back

Unbearable Challenge (3/8):
3. North American Black Bear- Ursus americanus- Turtle Back

Challenges completed remains 5/29, however I made some good progress today and very soon I will have more challenges completed.
 
Bergen County Zoo- 5/15/23
Turtle Back Zoo- 5/15/23

Fly The Coop (4/11):
4. Indian Blue Peafowl- Pavo cristatus- Turtle Back

We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap (9/10):
8. Black-tailed Prairie Dog- Cynomys ludovicianus- Bergen County
9. African Crested Porcupine- Hystrix cristata- Turtle Back

How Many Toes Am I Holding Up? (5/9):
5. Baird's Tapir- Tapirus bairdii- Bergen County

Let That Ruminate (7/11 plus bovids):
6. American Elk- Cervus canadensis- Bergen County
7. Central American Red Brocket- Mazama temama
Bovids:
10. Bontebok- Damaliscus pygargus- Turtle Back
11. Bongo- Tragelaphus eurycerus isaaci- Turtle Back

Check Your Feeders (2/4):
2. Common Raven- Corvus corax- Turtle Back

Thylo's Top 20 (6/8):
6. Common Raven- Corvus corax- Turtle Back

Carnivore Carnival (2/6):
1. Maned Wolf- Turtle Back
2. Cheetah- Turtle Back

Native Species Challenge (3/5):
3. Jaguar- Panthera onca- Turtle Back

Embrace the ABC's (13/36):
10. Bennett's Wallaby (2/2)- Turtle Back Zoo
11. Indian Peafowl- Turtle Back Zoo
12. African Penguin (2/2)- Turtle Back Zoo
13. Madagascar Hissing Cockroach- Turtle Back Zoo

Hot Blooded for Cold Blood (18/24 plus chelonians):
17. Tomistoma- Tomistoma schlegelii- Turtle Back
18. Dwarf Crocodile- Osteolaemus tetrapsis- Turtle Back
Chelonians:
20. Yellow-footed Tortoise- Chelonoidis denticulata- Bergen County
21. North American Wood Turtle- Glyptemis insculpta- Bergen County
22. Diamondback Terrapin- Malaclemys terrapin- Bergen County
23. Black-Breasted Leaf Turtle- Geoemyda spengleri- Turtle Back

Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge (11/15):
9. Black-tailed Prairie Dog- Cynomys ludovicianus- Bergen County
10. Clouded Leopard- Neofelis nebulosa- Turtle Back
11. American Flamingo- Phoenicopterus ruber- Turtle Back

Unbearable Challenge (3/8):
3. North American Black Bear- Ursus americanus- Turtle Back

Challenges completed remains 5/29, however I made some good progress today and very soon I will have more challenges completed.
Wait they have Bongo at Turtle Back now? If so I have to visit soon.
 
Wait they have Bongo at Turtle Back now? If so I have to visit soon.
Yes. I am assuming they're new, since they were in a smaller area next to the giraffe savanna, which is normal for zoos introducing new individuals to an exhibit.
 
Hey everyone,

Again, I apologize for my absence and neglect of this game the past couple months. As I mentioned in the opening post, this will be my last year running the Global Challenge as, despite how much I enjoy the game, it’s clear that I simply do not have the time or mental energy to spend hours in ZC each week as I used to have. I had thought about not continuing after last year, but with this being the anniversary and my having such a grandiose plan, I wanted to see it through. I had been making time to check in every couple weeks and go through the new posts, but then between my new position at work, moving in with my partner, my new pets, my focus on improving my birding/wildlife watching skills, and preparing for the big trip I am taking this summer, it’s became harder to find time to catch up on the posts, and then after a while it became this big overwhelming task to try and catch up on months of content. That’s why, when a couple of weeks ago, @TinoPup offered to help me catch up on posts and corrections that needed to be made, I ultimately accepted her help.

For a couple weeks now, she has been helping me comb through everyone’s posts and seek out any errors that needed correcting. I can’t express how tremendously helpful she’s been in helping catch everything up and keeping everything organized. Where our communication failed was in regard to who/how the corrections would be handled. I didn’t realize she would be making a post herself, but I also hadn’t thought that far ahead. She was just trying to be helpful, knowing I’ve been so time crunched it would be easier for her to just handle it instead of waiting for me to have some free time. I understand how that would have been incredibly confusing for many of you. I take responsibility for not working that part out with her earlier. Ideally, if I wasn’t going to be the one to post, I’d have at least liked to have made a post ahead of time to let everyone know what was going on and that she was helping me out.

Now as for the corrections made in her post, any major things were all discussed with me while she was combing through people’s posts. I would like to clarify a few things, though:
  • There is no requirement for how you have to format your posts, however, the use of the spoiler function, bolding or highlighting new additions, and keeping accurate numbering is immensely helpful. I do admit that the rules have never explicitly stated that you need to post where you’re seeing your species, but it has always been custom to include where you saw a species in your post and I would appreciate it if everyone did, it helps with verification where necessary. For the Embrace the ABCs Challenge, it is absolutely necessary you include the two locations you saw each species at as that is the only way to get credit for completing the challenge. I’m not going to ask anyone to fully recreate past posts, but in your next update please add in parenthesis where you saw animals that you didn’t already report on.
  • As far as clearing out old entries in your new posts, it’s up to you whether or not you choose to do so. Some do, and some don’t. I never have in past challenges, but this is where bolding or highlighting your new species becomes very important, as well as mentioning where you saw it. With so many more species eligible and so many challenges, this is also where the spoiler function becomes very important.
  • Photo proof is NOT required for any entries. As far as the Pine Mountain Gaur go, the only reason this is questionable is because the vast majority of “Gaur” outside of the AZA are more cow than wild cattle. I am curious as to whether @SusScrofa had any photos of these animals, but photos are not required as proof here. Regardless, the Bronx Gaur are the safer inclusion.
  • I go back and forth on a species like European Mouflon, where it should be treated as domestic as traditionally done here or wild as done on other challenges, but it is worth noting that the IUCN doesn’t seem to consider the musimon a valid wild taxon, and that is the taxonomy we follow by and large.
Again, I’m really sorry for the unnecessary confusion and absence on my part. I’m hoping with @TinoPup’s assistance in keeping track of entries more often than my schedule allows, I’ll have an easier time keeping up to date with everything moving forward. If anyone has any questions, concerns, or grips, please let them be known.

~Thylo
 
Bergen County Zoo- 5/15/23
Turtle Back Zoo- 5/15/23

Fly The Coop (4/11):
4. Indian Blue Peafowl- Pavo cristatus- Turtle Back

We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap (9/10):
8. Black-tailed Prairie Dog- Cynomys ludovicianus- Bergen County
9. African Crested Porcupine- Hystrix cristata- Turtle Back

How Many Toes Am I Holding Up? (5/9):
5. Baird's Tapir- Tapirus bairdii- Bergen County

Let That Ruminate (7/11 plus bovids):
6. American Elk- Cervus canadensis- Bergen County
7. Central American Red Brocket- Mazama temama
Bovids:
10. Bontebok- Damaliscus pygargus- Turtle Back
11. Bongo- Tragelaphus eurycerus isaaci- Turtle Back

Check Your Feeders (2/4):
2. Common Raven- Corvus corax- Turtle Back

Thylo's Top 20 (6/8):
6. Common Raven- Corvus corax- Turtle Back

Carnivore Carnival (2/6):
1. Maned Wolf- Turtle Back
2. Cheetah- Turtle Back

Native Species Challenge (3/5):
3. Jaguar- Panthera onca- Turtle Back

Embrace the ABC's (13/36):
10. Bennett's Wallaby (2/2)- Turtle Back Zoo
11. Indian Peafowl- Turtle Back Zoo
12. African Penguin (2/2)- Turtle Back Zoo
13. Madagascar Hissing Cockroach- Turtle Back Zoo

Hot Blooded for Cold Blood (18/24 plus chelonians):
17. Tomistoma- Tomistoma schlegelii- Turtle Back
18. Dwarf Crocodile- Osteolaemus tetrapsis- Turtle Back
Chelonians:
20. Yellow-footed Tortoise- Chelonoidis denticulata- Bergen County
21. North American Wood Turtle- Glyptemis insculpta- Bergen County
22. Diamondback Terrapin- Malaclemys terrapin- Bergen County
23. Black-Breasted Leaf Turtle- Geoemyda spengleri- Turtle Back

Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge (11/15):
9. Black-tailed Prairie Dog- Cynomys ludovicianus- Bergen County
10. Clouded Leopard- Neofelis nebulosa- Turtle Back
11. American Flamingo- Phoenicopterus ruber- Turtle Back

Unbearable Challenge (3/8):
3. North American Black Bear- Ursus americanus- Turtle Back

Challenges completed remains 5/29, however I made some good progress today and very soon I will have more challenges completed.
New York Aquarium- 5/16/23
Prospect Park Zoo- 5/16/23

Fly the Coop (6/11)
5. Taiwan Blue Pheasant- Lophura swinhoii- Prospect Park Zoo
6. Silver Pheasant- Lophura nycthemera- Prospect Park Zoo

Small But Will Fight (7/10):
7. Dwarf Mongoose- Helogale parvula- Prospect Park Zoo

See, Don't Touch (5/unlimited):
5. Golfoducean PDF- Phyllobates vittatus- Prospect Park Zoo

Don't You Forget About Me (7/13):
7. Straw Colored Fruit Bat- Eidolon helvum- Prospect Park Zoo


Embrace the ABC's (17/36)
14. Blacktip Reef Shark/Sand Tiger Shark (saw both)- New York Aquarium
15. Indian Peafowl (2/2)- Prospect Park Zoo
16. Green Iguana- Prospect Park Zoo
17. Pond Slider- Prospect Park Zoo

Island Hoppers (20/22)
18. Bedotia madagascariensis- New York Aquarium
19. Pachypanchax sakaramyi- New York Aquarium
20. Taiwan Blue Pheasant- Lophura swinhoii- Prospect Park Zoo

Hot Blooded For Cold Blood (18/24 plus chelonians):
Chelonians:
24. Hawksbill Sea Turtle- Eretmochelys imbricata- New York Aquarium
25. Hilaire's Side Necked Turtle- Phrynops hilairii- Prospect Park Zoo
26. Pond Slider- Trachemys scripta- Prospect Park Zoo

Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge (12/15):
12. Dingo- Canis familiaris dingo- Prospect Park Zoo

Another day, another two zoos, and challenges completed remains 5/29. We will see if any challenges are completed tomorrow, I think there's a fair chance at least one will be.
 
Hey everyone,

Again, I apologize for my absence and neglect of this game the past couple months. As I mentioned in the opening post, this will be my last year running the Global Challenge as, despite how much I enjoy the game, it’s clear that I simply do not have the time or mental energy to spend hours in ZC each week as I used to have. I had thought about not continuing after last year, but with this being the anniversary and my having such a grandiose plan, I wanted to see it through. I had been making time to check in every couple weeks and go through the new posts, but then between my new position at work, moving in with my partner, my new pets, my focus on improving my birding/wildlife watching skills, and preparing for the big trip I am taking this summer, it’s became harder to find time to catch up on the posts, and then after a while it became this big overwhelming task to try and catch up on months of content. That’s why, when a couple of weeks ago, @TinoPup offered to help me catch up on posts and corrections that needed to be made, I ultimately accepted her help.

For a couple weeks now, she has been helping me comb through everyone’s posts and seek out any errors that needed correcting. I can’t express how tremendously helpful she’s been in helping catch everything up and keeping everything organized. Where our communication failed was in regard to who/how the corrections would be handled. I didn’t realize she would be making a post herself, but I also hadn’t thought that far ahead. She was just trying to be helpful, knowing I’ve been so time crunched it would be easier for her to just handle it instead of waiting for me to have some free time. I understand how that would have been incredibly confusing for many of you. I take responsibility for not working that part out with her earlier. Ideally, if I wasn’t going to be the one to post, I’d have at least liked to have made a post ahead of time to let everyone know what was going on and that she was helping me out.

Now as for the corrections made in her post, any major things were all discussed with me while she was combing through people’s posts. I would like to clarify a few things, though:
  • There is no requirement for how you have to format your posts, however, the use of the spoiler function, bolding or highlighting new additions, and keeping accurate numbering is immensely helpful. I do admit that the rules have never explicitly stated that you need to post where you’re seeing your species, but it has always been custom to include where you saw a species in your post and I would appreciate it if everyone did, it helps with verification where necessary. For the Embrace the ABCs Challenge, it is absolutely necessary you include the two locations you saw each species at as that is the only way to get credit for completing the challenge. I’m not going to ask anyone to fully recreate past posts, but in your next update please add in parenthesis where you saw animals that you didn’t already report on.
  • As far as clearing out old entries in your new posts, it’s up to you whether or not you choose to do so. Some do, and some don’t. I never have in past challenges, but this is where bolding or highlighting your new species becomes very important, as well as mentioning where you saw it. With so many more species eligible and so many challenges, this is also where the spoiler function becomes very important.
  • Photo proof is NOT required for any entries. As far as the Pine Mountain Gaur go, the only reason this is questionable is because the vast majority of “Gaur” outside of the AZA are more cow than wild cattle. I am curious as to whether @SusScrofa had any photos of these animals, but photos are not required as proof here. Regardless, the Bronx Gaur are the safer inclusion.
  • I go back and forth on a species like European Mouflon, where it should be treated as domestic as traditionally done here or wild as done on other challenges, but it is worth noting that the IUCN doesn’t seem to consider the musimon a valid wild taxon, and that is the taxonomy we follow by and large.
Again, I’m really sorry for the unnecessary confusion and absence on my part. I’m hoping with @TinoPup’s assistance in keeping track of entries more often than my schedule allows, I’ll have an easier time keeping up to date with everything moving forward. If anyone has any questions, concerns, or grips, please let them be known.

~Thylo

For those that don't know me, I'd like to reassure everyone that I would never step in on a thread like this without permission! I am friends with Thylo (and Binh), and also helped on the ungulates thread. The partnership isn't unusual for us, but I now see how it could come across to others, especially non-Americans who might not be as familiar with me.

I hope the clarifications help, too. I did say none of the tips were required, except for the one, but they are really helpful. Now that I'm caught up it isn't as big of a deal, I should be able to keep up with the thread for the most part vs going through hundreds of posts in a short time.

In trying to be succinct I seem to have come across as stricter/harsher than I intended. I was trying to keep everything to the point, so that the post wasn't really long or hard to follow; I thought the occasional smiley face would help with that but I guess not :) Most of what I post here on zc doesn't come from a negative place or have any implied tone behind it.
 
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