Teddy Dalton
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i know i'm kicking myself, i had already gone back and edited out all the frogs and inverts from the other post!
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i know i'm kicking myself, i had already gone back and edited out all the frogs and inverts from the other post!
Teddy Dalton
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yellow foot tortoise
Well seeing as I'm in the UK for a few weeks, figured I'd join in on the fun! Got a decent start I think, not sure how many more I'll get but who knows. Lifers in bold.
London Zoo
1) King Cobra Ophiophagus hannah
2) Philippine Crocodile Crocodylus mindorensis
3) Black-Headed Python Aspidites melanocephalus
4) Vietnamese Pond Turtle Mauremys annamensis
5) Green Tree-Monitor Varanus prasinus
6) Philippine Water Monitor Varanus cumingi
7) Blue Tree-Monitor Varanus macraei
8) Rio Fuerte Beaded Lizard Heloderma exasperatum
9) Utila Spiny-Tailed Iguana Ctenosaura bakeri
10) Rhinoceros Ratsnake Rhynchophis boulengeri
11) Collared Tree Lizard Plica plica
12) Dumeril's Ground Boa Acrantophis dumerili
13) Mangrove Snake Boiga dendrophila (melanota)
14) Green Anaconda Eunectes murinus
15) Chinese Crocodile Lizard Shinisaurus crocodilurus
16) European Glass Lizard Pseudopus apodus
17) Jamaican Boa Epicrates subflavus
18) Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle Chelodina mccordi
19) Amazon Basin Tree Boa Corallus batesii
20) Greek Tortoise Testudo graeca
21) Carpet Python Morelia spilota (cheynei)
22) Rhinoceros Viper Bitis nasicornis
23) Western Diamondback Rattlesnake Crotalus atrox
24) Stoke's Skink Egernia stokesii
25) Gila Monster Heloderma suspectum (suspectum)
26) Red-Tailed Ratsnake Gonyosoma oxycephalum
27) Inland Taipan Oxyuranus microlepidotus
28) Black Mamba Dendroaspis polylepis
29) Jackson's Chameleon Trioceros jacksonii (xantholophus)
30) Green Iguana Iguana iguana
31) Komodo Dragon Varanus komodoensis
32) Fly River Turtle Carettochelys insculpta
33) Red-Footed Tortoise Chelonoidis carbonaria
Birmingham Wildlife Center
34) Western Pond Turtle Actinemys marmorata
35) Electric Blue Gecko Lygodactylus williamsi
36) Tokay Gecko Gekko gecko
37) Abbott's Day Gecko Phelsuma abbotti
38) African Spurred Tortoise Centrochelys sulcata
39) Malagasy Tree Boa Sanzinia madagascariensis
40) Solomon Islands Skink Corucia zebrata
41) Blue Spiny Lizard Sceloporus cyanogenys
42) New Caledonian Giant Gecko Rhacodactylus leachianus
43) Chameleon Forest Dragon Gonocephalus chamaeleontinus
44) Common Garter Snake Thamnophis sirtalis (tetrataenia)
45) Yellow-Footed Tortoise Chelonoidis denticulata
Rodbaston Animal Zone
46) Pond Slider Trachemys scripta
47) Rhinoceros Iguana Cyclura cornuta
48) Leopard Tortoise Stigmochelys pardalis
49) Indian Star Tortoise Geochelone elegans
50) Egyptian Tortoise Testudo kleinmanni
51) Pancake Tortoise Malacochersus tornieri
52) Florida Softshell Turtle Apalone ferox
53) Yellow-Headed Day Gecko Phelsuma klemmeri
54) Mediterranean Ocellated Skink Chalcides ocellatus
55) Veiled Chameleon Chamaeleo calyptratus
56) Sudan Spiny-Tailed Lizard Uromastyx dispar
57) Emerald Tree Boa Corallus caninus
58) Savannah Monitor Varanus exanthematicus
59) Chinese Black-Breasted Leaf Turtle Geoemyda spengleri
60) Standing's Day Geckob Phelsuma standingi
61) Spiny-Tailed Monitor Varanus acanthurus
62) Baja Blue Rock Lizard Petrosaurus thalassinus
63) Eastern Fence Lizard Sceloporus undulatus
64) Central Bearded Lizard Pogona vitticeps
65) Blotched Blue-Tongued Skink Tiliqua nigrolutea
66) Brazilian Rainbow Boa Epicrates cenchria
67) Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman Paleosuchus palpebrosus
Gentleshaw's Wildlife Center
68) Florida Red-Bellied Cooter Pseudemys nelsoni
69) False Map Turtle Graptemys pseudogeographica (kohni)
70) Yellow Anaconda Eunectes notaeus
71) Burmese Python Python bivittatus
72) Asian Water Monitor Varanus salvator
73) Corn Snake Pantherophis guttatus
74) Oriental Garden Lizard Calotes versicolor
75) Leopard Gecko Eublepharis macularius
76) Argentine Black-and-White Tegu Salvator merianae
77) Ball Python Python regius
78) Schneider's Skink Eumeces schneideri
Chester Zoo
79) Tentacled Snake Erpeton tentaculatum
80) Green Crested Lizard Bronchocela cristatella
81) Indochinese Spiny Lizard Acanthosaura capra
82) Six-Striped Long-Tailed Grass Lizard Takydromus sexlineatus
83) Painted Batagur Batagur borneoensis
84) Asian Giant Pond Turtle Heosemys grandis
85) Bornean River Turtle Orlitia borneensis
86) False Gharial Tomistoma schlegelii
87) Asian Brown Tortoise Manouria emys
88) Papuan Forest Dragon Hypsilurus magnus
89) West African Gaboon Viper Bitis rhinoceros
90) Parson's Chameleon Calumma parsonii
91) Radiated Tortoise Astrochelys radiata
92) Northern Tuatara Sphenodon punctatus
93) Spectacled Caiman Caiman crocodilus (crocodilus)
94) Amazon Tree Boa Corallus hortulanus
95) Serrated Casque-Headed Lizard Laemanctus serratus
96) Indochinese Box Turtle Cuora galbinifrons
97) Northern Caiman Lizard Dracaena guianensis
98) Sand Lizard Lacerta agilis
99) Yellow-Spotted Amazon River Turtle Podocnemis unifilis
100) Bell's Forest Dragon Gonocephalus bellii
101) Reticulated Python Python reticulatus
102) White-Lipped Pitviper Trimeresurus albolabris
103) Crocodile Monitor Varanus salvadorii
104) Boelen's Python Morelia boeleni
105) Panther Chameleon Furcifer pardalis
One more I forgot from London:
106) Galápagos Giant Tortoise Chelonoidis niger
~Thylo
London Zoo
1) King Cobra Ophiophagus hannah
2) Philippine Crocodile Crocodylus mindorensis
3) Black-Headed Python Aspidites melanocephalus
4) Vietnamese Pond Turtle Mauremys annamensis
5) Green Tree-Monitor Varanus prasinus
6) Philippine Water Monitor Varanus cumingi
7) Blue Tree-Monitor Varanus macraei
8) Rio Fuerte Beaded Lizard Heloderma exasperatum
9) Utila Spiny-Tailed Iguana Ctenosaura bakeri
10) Rhinoceros Ratsnake Rhynchophis boulengeri
11) Collared Tree Lizard Plica plica
12) Dumeril's Ground Boa Acrantophis dumerili
13) Mangrove Snake Boiga dendrophila (melanota)
14) Green Anaconda Eunectes murinus
15) Chinese Crocodile Lizard Shinisaurus crocodilurus
16) European Glass Lizard Pseudopus apodus
17) Jamaican Boa Epicrates subflavus
18) Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle Chelodina mccordi
19) Amazon Basin Tree Boa Corallus batesii
20) Greek Tortoise Testudo graeca
21) Carpet Python Morelia spilota (cheynei)
22) Rhinoceros Viper Bitis nasicornis
23) Western Diamondback Rattlesnake Crotalus atrox
24) Stoke's Skink Egernia stokesii
25) Gila Monster Heloderma suspectum (suspectum)
26) Red-Tailed Ratsnake Gonyosoma oxycephalum
27) Inland Taipan Oxyuranus microlepidotus
28) Black Mamba Dendroaspis polylepis
29) Jackson's Chameleon Trioceros jacksonii (xantholophus)
30) Green Iguana Iguana iguana
31) Komodo Dragon Varanus komodoensis
32) Fly River Turtle Carettochelys insculpta
33) Red-Footed Tortoise Chelonoidis carbonaria
Birmingham Wildlife Center
34) Western Pond Turtle Actinemys marmorata
35) Electric Blue Gecko Lygodactylus williamsi
36) Tokay Gecko Gekko gecko
37) Abbott's Day Gecko Phelsuma abbotti
38) African Spurred Tortoise Centrochelys sulcata
39) Malagasy Tree Boa Sanzinia madagascariensis
40) Solomon Islands Skink Corucia zebrata
41) Blue Spiny Lizard Sceloporus cyanogenys
42) New Caledonian Giant Gecko Rhacodactylus leachianus
43) Chameleon Forest Dragon Gonocephalus chamaeleontinus
44) Common Garter Snake Thamnophis sirtalis (tetrataenia)
45) Yellow-Footed Tortoise Chelonoidis denticulata
Rodbaston Animal Zone
46) Pond Slider Trachemys scripta
47) Rhinoceros Iguana Cyclura cornuta
48) Leopard Tortoise Stigmochelys pardalis
49) Indian Star Tortoise Geochelone elegans
50) Egyptian Tortoise Testudo kleinmanni
51) Pancake Tortoise Malacochersus tornieri
52) Florida Softshell Turtle Apalone ferox
53) Yellow-Headed Day Gecko Phelsuma klemmeri
54) Mediterranean Ocellated Skink Chalcides ocellatus
55) Veiled Chameleon Chamaeleo calyptratus
56) Sudan Spiny-Tailed Lizard Uromastyx dispar
57) Emerald Tree Boa Corallus caninus
58) Savannah Monitor Varanus exanthematicus
59) Chinese Black-Breasted Leaf Turtle Geoemyda spengleri
60) Standing's Day Geckob Phelsuma standingi
61) Spiny-Tailed Monitor Varanus acanthurus
62) Baja Blue Rock Lizard Petrosaurus thalassinus
63) Eastern Fence Lizard Sceloporus undulatus
64) Central Bearded Lizard Pogona vitticeps
65) Blotched Blue-Tongued Skink Tiliqua nigrolutea
66) Brazilian Rainbow Boa Epicrates cenchria
67) Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman Paleosuchus palpebrosus
Gentleshaw's Wildlife Center
68) Florida Red-Bellied Cooter Pseudemys nelsoni
69) False Map Turtle Graptemys pseudogeographica (kohni)
70) Yellow Anaconda Eunectes notaeus
71) Burmese Python Python bivittatus
72) Asian Water Monitor Varanus salvator
73) Corn Snake Pantherophis guttatus
74) Oriental Garden Lizard Calotes versicolor
75) Leopard Gecko Eublepharis macularius
76) Argentine Black-and-White Tegu Salvator merianae
77) Ball Python Python regius
78) Schneider's Skink Eumeces schneideri
Chester Zoo
79) Tentacled Snake Erpeton tentaculatum
80) Green Crested Lizard Bronchocela cristatella
81) Indochinese Spiny Lizard Acanthosaura capra
82) Six-Striped Long-Tailed Grass Lizard Takydromus sexlineatus
83) Painted Batagur Batagur borneoensis
84) Asian Giant Pond Turtle Heosemys grandis
85) Bornean River Turtle Orlitia borneensis
86) False Gharial Tomistoma schlegelii
87) Asian Brown Tortoise Manouria emys
88) Papuan Forest Dragon Hypsilurus magnus
89) West African Gaboon Viper Bitis rhinoceros
90) Parson's Chameleon Calumma parsonii
91) Radiated Tortoise Astrochelys radiata
92) Northern Tuatara Sphenodon punctatus
93) Spectacled Caiman Caiman crocodilus (crocodilus)
94) Amazon Tree Boa Corallus hortulanus
95) Serrated Casque-Headed Lizard Laemanctus serratus
96) Indochinese Box Turtle Cuora galbinifrons
97) Northern Caiman Lizard Dracaena guianensis
98) Sand Lizard Lacerta agilis
99) Yellow-Spotted Amazon River Turtle Podocnemis unifilis
100) Bell's Forest Dragon Gonocephalus bellii
101) Reticulated Python Python reticulatus
102) White-Lipped Pitviper Trimeresurus albolabris
103) Crocodile Monitor Varanus salvadorii
104) Boelen's Python Morelia boeleni
105) Panther Chameleon Furcifer pardalis
One more I forgot from London:
106) Galápagos Giant Tortoise Chelonoidis niger
~Thylo
It rather amuses me that Thylo has been in the country three short days, and is already two-thirds of the way to overtaking Pipaluk 
zoogiraffe
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It rather amuses me that Thylo has been in the country three short days, and is already two-thirds of the way to overtaking Pipaluk
Never mind that what worries me is that he may pull in front of me, I just hope the 3 I picked up will be enough to keep him behind me. I will post them when I return home and not trying to use my phone for posting !
It rather amuses me that Thylo has been in the country three short days, and is already two-thirds of the way to overtaking Pipaluk
What amuses me more is that someone has travelled thousands of miles to visit such places as Rodbaston & Gentleshaw!! Very odd, they must be taking the challenge very seriously! I have a trip intended to Birmingham WCP, I may have to go to Rodbaston that day too now, as I was considering where else to go that day.
zoogiraffe
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Well if you do those 2 just remember that signs are not always right !!!!!!!
Well how else was I supposed to pick up Ethiopian Eagle-Owl and two subspecies of Raccoon Dog?
Also mind you I'd only been here three days when I entered the challenge and have also visited London and Chester.
~Thylo
I'll just refer you to ZG 's post above! Were the signs right at those places?! If someone travelled thousands of miles as you have, there must be AT LEAST 50 places more worth visiting than Gentleshaw or Rodbaston surely?!!!Well how else was I supposed to pick up Ethiopian Eagle-Owl and two subspecies of Raccoon Dog?
Also mind you I'd only been here three days when I entered the challenge and have also visited London and Chester.
~Thylo
Personally I reckon Gentleshaw is *well* within the top 50 UK collections!
And I know what other collections Thylo has done since arriving, and is yet to do; I think no one will be able to quibble about his visiting worthwhile collections or not once his trip is over!
Well it might come 40 something I guess, but I reckon most of the 50 plus I've been to would beat it! I wouldn't bother travelling 150 miles to it let alone several thousand! I'd rather go to the Aspinalls, Edinburgh, HWP, Ywp, & plenty of others with no reptiles at all!! Aside from that Dave, what's your total so far?
At the time of my last update, only 40
though I just realised I completely forgot to update for Tropical World Leeds in late April so my total is actually slightly higher. Not done any other UK collections since then, which may surprise you!Doing Chester tomorrow though so will hopefully pick a handful more.
I'm sure you'll pick up more than a handful!! Let's be honest there is only one person who will win this and it's not you, me or Thylo (unless he wants to miss half the decent UK zoos in favour of obscure aquariums & 2nd rate zoos just to boost his total by 1 or 2).. I have made no real effort to pick up 168 from 19 zoos so far. I could probably get 230 if I was desperate to try & win, but I doubt I'll get more than 190 at best! Of the other 10 plus zoos I visit, around half will add nothing.At the time of my last update, only 40
Doing Chester tomorrow though so will hopefully pick a handful more.
Oh, it *will* only be a handful; I've got most of the Chester ones already from a visit in April.
And I think we've worked out Thylo *may* just about pull ahead of ZG come the end of his trip - and more or less all of the places he has yet to visit *are* decent collections
Oh, it *will* only be a handful; I've got most of the Chester ones already from a visit in April.
And I think we've worked out Thylo *may* just about pull ahead of ZG come the end of his trip - and more or less all of the places he has yet to visit *are* decent collections
Well, we'll just have to wait & see, but my money is still on ZG, he has the rest of the year to increase his total. Looks like 2nd place may be beyond me though!
Yes that has been noted. The signs are not all correct and some have no signs at all, though I know my listings are correct since I'm currently traveling with someone who knows exactly what they're looking at.
That said, I have made one pretty big mistake. Number 34 should be European Pond Turtle, not Western! Wrote it down currently and it's signed I just made a mistake while posting.
~Thylo
Who says I'm not going to visit the Aspinalls, Edinburgh, HWP, and many other larger zoos? I'm not here to win the challenge (I don't expect to), I'm here to see the country, its native wildlife, meet some people, and visit some great collections. None of the zoos I'm doing are for the challenge, I'm just playing for fun as I go.
~Thylo
Trust me I'm not missing too many decent zoos, nor would I call any of the ones I've done second rate. I've been very impressed so far and any collection that can over double my owl lifelist (Rodbaston) or my parrot lifelist (Hayle) is pretty good in my book.
~Thylo
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest you wouldn't be going to them. I'm glad to hear you will be visiting some top zoos despite them adding nothing to the challenge!Who says I'm not going to visit the Aspinalls, Edinburgh, HWP, and many other larger zoos? I'm not here to win the challenge (I don't expect to), I'm here to see the country, its native wildlife, meet some people, and visit some great collections. None of the zoos I'm doing are for the challenge, I'm just playing for fun as I go.
~Thylo
OK, so I was at Kew Gardens today, and in one of the glasshouses (the Princess of Wales Conservatory) unexpectedly saw a Water Dragon Lizard in the desert area (Kew website doesn't give species, but most likely Physignathus cocincinus). Reading up they are kept there as natural pest-control. My question is, can I count this towards my total? Kew isn't a zoo, but it does have a small aquarium in the Palm House basement, similar to the aquarium at the Horniman Museum, which would count. But, the lizard was in one of the plant conservatories, so not technically a display animal, but is definitely a captive exotic. So, a nice conundrum for our adjudicator 
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