ZooChat Cup Group C2: Beauval vs Bronx

[amur leopard]

Steller's Sea Eagle

Don't think this species is counting.

And here are a few pics from Beauval. Leaving out some of the mammals in dispute (wolves, macaques) and not being able to find photos of bird enclosures, this is what I got:

The wolves are intended to be a North American species. I mean, what else are they if they are not North American after all? They certainly aren't domestic is all I'm trying to say.

Well I'm going 3-0 for the Bronx. I think their species list is far better and larger, their enclosures seem better, and most particularly their local conservation efforts are well worth giving them all the points, especially for saving the American Bison.

Beauval have 4 local conservation efforts in France, for lammergeiers, spadefoots, resident bat species and lots of other amphibian species native to the French region of Sologne.

Meanwhile, especially based on the photos, I wouldn't say Bronx's exhibits are better. The photo of Beauval's brown bear exhibit is cut off at only about a fifth of it - it is in reality much bigger, and green whereas I can't say the same for Bronx's which is actually quite small?
And imo Beauval's sea lion enclosure is much better as well.
Beauval's raccoon exhibit isn't just that, it is actually around the same size as the Barbary macaques and with a waterfall and a nice pond and stream.

Just to give you an idea of what I am saying, here is the Beauval zoo map: Plan de visite | Préparez votre visite | ZooParc de Beauval.
Zoom in into the two exhibits in the far bottom right (bear and wolves, and you will see the lake shown in the photo, and it is only around a quarter of the exhibit, while the wolf exhibit is even larger.

 

[amur leopard]

And here is a photo that shows slightly more of the Beauval raccoon enclosure:
A stream is just visible at the bottom and there is a waterfall to the left of the photo.



And here is the bit I meant on the map:

Lake marked on as well as enclosure border. the enclosure to the right is for wolves.

 

[FunkyGibbon]

This adds another interesting dynamic

For a certain value for 'interesting'

 

[TheGerenuk]

Am I the only one who thinks Steller's sea eagles are an Asian species?

 

[Jogy]

Am I the only one who thinks Steller's sea eagles are an Asian species?

I'd have also cearly located them to Asia however it might well be that they move from time to time also to Alaska.

Wikipedia is saying the following:

It lives in coastal northeastern Asia and mainly preys on fish and water birds. The Kamchatka Peninsula in Far Eastern Russia is known for its relatively large population of these birds.

 

[pipaluk]

I'd have also cearly located them to Asia however it might well be that they move from time to time also to Alaska.

Wikipedia is saying the following:

It lives in coastal northeastern Asia and mainly preys on fish and water birds. The Kamchatka Peninsula in Far Eastern Russia is known for its relatively large population of these birds.

It does say vagrant eagles have been found in North America including Kodiak Island. So do they count as North American?

 

[Ebirah766]

Are there permanent populations in North America?

 

[pipaluk]

Are there permanent populations in North America?

Apparently not.

 

[Coelacanth18]

To clear up the confusion: Steller's sea eagle shouldn't count. I got mixed up because the other sea eagle (white-tailed) counts for Europe.