ZooChat meets Holland

Hupie

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Hello everybody

I saw that there are many questions about the Dutch zoos. Let's make one topic were you can ask your question. I have many photographs, animals and exibiths. I really like to answer you questions

I've seen nothing about Gaiapark.that's my favourite Dutch zoo.The zoo is opened in 2005, but has many nice species. A previeuw will make you inquisitive;)

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Woloverine exibith

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Part of the new rhino savannah, opened april 2008

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Savannah
 
Dutch Zoos

can you give us a brief list / description of Dutch Zoos ?

How many are there in your country ?

PS I enjoyed your photos
 
can you give us a brief list / description of Dutch Zoos ?
How many are there in your country ?
PS I enjoyed your photos

Holland has 4 zoos with more than 1.000.000 visitors.(Emmen, Amsterdam Arhnem and Rotterdam)
Then you have the midgroup with 500.000--1.000.000 (Rhenen, Hilvarenbeek, Amersfoort, Harderwijk,)
And the smallest 0-500.000 (Kerkrade, Apeldoorn, Dierenrijk, Overloon, Leeuwarden, Wissel, Alphen A/d rijn.
Holland has 16.000000 people, 10.5 are visiting a zoo.

The NVD is the Dutch zoo federation, the above called zoos are member off that. They are also EAZA member, except Dierenrijk. They have been banned last year(they opened in 2004!)

In Holland you have in the NVD also foundations who are the owner of zoos. Libema is holiday foundation, they are owner of Dierenrijk and Safaripark Beekse bergen.

Zodiac zoos is Zoofoundation who are the owner of Overloon, Leeuwarden(Aquazoo) and Wissel. They also bougt a castle with some common animals, A labyrinth where they put 6 animal species and privat zoo with puma's, jaguars, birds, Sri Lanka leopard and other small animals. The last bought zoos are not an NVD/EAZA member, I think they never gonna be..

Later on I give you al the information about the zoos including the photo's you like, thak you:D
 
Holland has 4 zoos with more than 1.000.000 visitors.(Emmen, Amsterdam Arhnem and Rotterdam)
Then you have the midgroup with 500.000--1.000.000 (Rhenen, Hilvarenbeek, Amersfoort, Harderwijk,)
And the smallest 0-500.000 (Kerkrade, Apeldoorn, Dierenrijk, Overloon, Leeuwarden, Wissel, Alphen A/d rijn.

Thanks for the summary information on the Zoos of the Netherlands! I'm just curious -- IF I were to make a trip to your country and wanted to make sure I visited any Dutch zoo that was among the "Top 50 zoos in Europe", which zoos should I make sure I visit?

I've already seen Artis, but I've long heard good things about Rotterdam, Arnhem, Emmen, and others. I was stunned to see Artis still open to the public at 22:00 when I was there.

Another question: I've heard that politics in the Netherlands lean pretty far to the Left. Thus, how strong is the "zoos are animal prisons" movement in your country?

By the way, maybe you've noticed from my name, but my heritage is Dutch. My ancestors come from Enschede, where my grandfather was born. I think that, before he came to America, his last name was actually "Nijhuis".
 
If you had to choose just one zoo to visit, I'd say Rotterdam zoo. I've seen over a 100different zoo's in Europe and it stands strong in my top 3. They have a great collection of all kinds of different animals, with rare beauties like northern seaotters and tufted deer. And some great exhibits, like the polar bear enclosure, the savanah house, crocodile river, the wolfs enclosure, the bird migration aviary, almost every part of asia is awesome, the oceanium is great and the list can go on and on ;)
If there's more time also visit: Burgers' Zoo.
I also love Gaiapark and the Apenheul, but I don't know if they belong in the european top 50 zoo's. (although they do in my opinion)

Politics: it's not that strong, there's one animal rights party, but they have more problemens with circusses, bioindustry, (ab)using animals for their fur and stuff like that. I think Dutch people are a zoo loving nation. Every year about 11 million make there way to the big NVD zoo's, that's a lot for a small country like ours . ;)
 
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Thanks for the summary information on the Zoos of the Netherlands! I'm just curious -- IF I were to make a trip to your country and wanted to make sure I visited any Dutch zoo that was among the "Top 50 zoos in Europe", which zoos should I make sure I visit?

I've already seen Artis, but I've long heard good things about Rotterdam, Arnhem, Emmen, and others. I was stunned to see Artis still open to the public at 22:00 when I was there.

Another question: I've heard that politics in the Netherlands lean pretty far to the Left. Thus, how strong is the "zoos are animal prisons" movement in your country?

By the way, maybe you've noticed from my name, but my heritage is Dutch. My ancestors come from Enschede, where my grandfather was born. I think that, before he came to America, his last name was actually "Nijhuis".

I usually lack the wow-factor in Rotterdam, but i can very easily imagine just about everyone else placing it in the top 5 of Europe. When i think of it rationally, it has just about everything a good zoo needs. A collection that could rival any other zoo in europa, some very nice exhibits and some very decent architecture. I personally love Arnhem better, but if a person would say he could only visit one zoo in the Netherlands, i would tell him to go to Rotterdam.

So next is Arnhem. Grandeur, unique and made by somebody with a vision. Not even remotely comparable to anything else I've seen, in my opinion an overwhelming experience the very first visit.

In my opinion, the gap with the rest of Holland is pretty big. But it all depends on what your criteria for great are. I'd say Apenheul and Emmen are definately worth going to, Apenheul only on a sunny day (just about nothing is inside) and Emmen's worth going to, just for Radza alone! (warning about Emmen, if you've seen their Playa pinguinos, every other penguin exhibit after that will look shabby...).

The Dolfinarium only holds something like 8 species but if you want to see how dolphins and walrus should be kept, i'd hop in, see the exhibits and hop out (expensive hop though, something like € 24).

Many other zoo's are very decent indeed (Dolfinarium, Overloon, Beekse Bergen, Amersfoort and Gaiapark are all very nice) and might scrape into the top 50 somewhere along the 40-50 mark, but i doubt it.

About the left-wing, i'd say our zoo's are at such a standard that they seem to leave them alone. Like Icequeen said, it's mostly directed towards our rather large fur industry, the bio-industry and the animal laboraties.

About your name, whenever an american would use an Y, we use a letter that is typed IJ but is written like a cross between ij and y. The pronounciation is a tone not used in english. Nijhuis is also a very common name in Holland, so i'd say there's a 99,9% that you are right (when you first registered, i actually thought you might be Dutch and your name should be written Nijhuis).
 
Thanks for the information, IceQueen and Jwer! It will be valuable when I make a journey over there to see your great zoos!

About your name, whenever an american would use an Y, we use a letter that is typed IJ but is written like a cross between ij and y. The pronounciation is a tone not used in english. Nijhuis is also a very common name in Holland, so i'd say there's a 99,9% that you are right (when you first registered, i actually thought you might be Dutch and your name should be written Nijhuis).

Thanks also for this info. Knowing that my ancestors are from Enschede, when a friend of mine took a business trip to that city, I asked him to look in the local telephone book to see how many "Nyhuis" listings there were. I expected he would find many, but he found ZERO. This is when I started asking Dutch people about it, and one told me about the "Nijhuis" spelling. I can imagine the Enschede phone book probably has many "Nijhuis" listings.
 
Funny how Americans how no idea of European dimensions. You can drive through Holland in three hours (longest side), considering Enschede is in the middle anyone in Holland would be within a 1,5 hour drive (I live about an hour away, pretty far by Dutch standards :p ).

From Enschede, i'd estimate a 15 major zoos are within a 3 hour drive, with somewhere like 20-30 smaller ones as well. It's smack in the middle of the highest density of zoo's anywhere in the world :) (the german Ruhr-area and Holland).
 
@jwer: the relatively short distances explains why many hardcore zoo fans in Europe have visited 100, 200 or even 700 zoos (I know one person that is approaching 750). Where I live in Canada I could drive north towards the Arctic pole and never hit a major zoo, I could drive east and it would take me 12 hours to hit a major zoo (Calgary), west it is an hour and a half to the Vancouver Aquarium and then I hit the Pacific Ocean, and south it is a 5 hour round-trip just to stop by the Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle. Many Europeans could see 40 zoos in the time I see 2 or 3! That is why I need to go on more massive road trips, but for me to see 15 major zoos it would take a couple of weeks of nonstop driving instead of the 3 hours that you mentioned in Holland.
 
The netherlands have a lot of unique zoo's. Blijdorp has a huge and impressive collection, and have done quite a good job modernizing the zoo. Burgers zoo also has a nice collection of animals, and has impressive eco-displays. Both have got spectaculair ocean-exhibits. Emmen zoo has put the standards of animalkeeping at such a high level, that burgers and blijdorp haven't even caught up yet ( allthough they're getting close). Artis is a cultural zoo, with a lot of history. Onliest downside, some displays really are outdated. Apenheul is an unique primate zoo, and ouwehands and amersfoort are regional zoo's but also really worth a visit. The delphinarium Harderwijk has some nice exhibits for dolphins and walrusses, but it's quite expensive and not worth the price because you get to little for your entrance fee.
 
The distance in continental Europe is a clear advantage to travelers, during the time i lived there, i visited tons of attractions, from museums and zoos to castles and historical sites, only possible due to the distance, back then being a regular army soldier in the United States European Command, i did not earn much, but being stationed in Germany i was able to travel to so many different countries, add to that, the power of the US dollar back then, and it was heaven on earth for any zoo fan.
Sadly that is not the case here in the US, where a road trip like the one Snowleopard took, will most likely take the average individual some time, just here in florida, i have to travel almost four hours from Miami to DAK, i have had two free passes to the park for about 3 months now, from my last visit and still can't find the time to make it back, distance here in the US is big problem, you pretty much have to take a plane everywhere you go, and that is just not that much fun anymore.
 
And staying on topic, i did not visit any zoos in the Netherlands, even though i traveled there several times, back then i did not do a lot of research online, mostly relied on word of mouth, and none of the Dutch i knew ever told me they had any zoos worth visiting, a shame, but there is still time.
 
That's normal, if the ordinary people can say 5 zoo's here in the netherlands, then you are lucky... It is a same, but on the other hand...

In belgium you have also a lot of people that only know 4 zoo's...
 
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