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jwer said:
According to Zootierliste, Zoo Barcelona holds Satéré marmosets (mico/callithrix saterei) since 2012. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, where the animals came from?
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the only thing I found from googling was this blog listing animals at the zoo in March 2012 which says they are there: lista de especies por zoo: Zoològic de Barcelona

I sort of feel it is unlikely myself.

EDIT: and this one -- same list, different blog, but from March 2011: http://zoosdelmundo.blogspot.co.nz/2011/03/zoo-de-barcelona.html

EDIT TWO: and this one from 2010 (going back in time even further), by, erm, aim_foliksta: http://zoosdelmundo.mforos.com/1523377/7501477-lista-de-especies-esp-cat-actualizado-23-12-12/
 
"Tití de orejas de pincel de cara blanca (Callithrix saterei)"

Wouldn't "cara branca" translate as "white-faced"? Seems a mix-up with white-faced marmoset (Callithrix Geoffroyi).

Although that species is not listed for Barcelona atm...
 
jwer said:
"Tití de orejas de pincel de cara blanca (Callithrix saterei)"

Wouldn't "cara branca" translate as "white-faced"? Seems a mix-up with white-faced marmoset (Callithrix Geoffroyi).

Although that species is not listed for Barcelona atm...
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that must be it then. C. geoffroyi is listed in the former holdings for Barcelona, up to December 2012 if I'm reading that right.
 
Chlidonias said:
the only thing I found from googling was this blog listing animals at the zoo in March 2012 which says they are there: lista de especies por zoo: Zoològic de Barcelona

I sort of feel it is unlikely myself.

EDIT: and this one -- same list, different blog, but from March 2011: ZOOS EN EL MUNDO: ZOO DE BARCELONA

EDIT TWO: and this one from 2010 (going back in time even further), by, erm, aim_foliksta: Zoos del Mundo - Lista de especies, ESP/CAT [actualizado: 23/12/12] - Zoològic de Barcelona
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Thanks. To me it looks like it's just a misidentification of Callithrix geoffroyi, which could be found in the marmoset house and is absent from those lists.

EDIT: Cross-posted.

The 2010 list only gives them the common name "Tití de cara blanca" so it's likely they're just C. geoffroyi.
 
I'm amazed that someone at ZooTierliste says "besuch 12-2012" which would suggest someone has seen them during a visit.

Would the zoo have mislabelled them as well?
 
devilfish said:
Thanks. To me it looks like it's just a misidentification of Callithrix geoffroyi, which could be found in the marmoset house and is absent from those lists.

EDIT: Cross-posted.

The 2010 list only gives them the common name "Tití de cara blanca" so it's likely they're just C. geoffroyi.
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all three lists have the scientific name as well as the common name. If I may indulge my Sherlock skills, I imagine aim_foliksta just accidentally put saterei instead of geoffroyi in the 2010 list, and the other lists simply copied that. And then someone found the 2012 list on the internet and added the name to Zootierliste on that basis.
 
jwer said:
I'm amazed that someone at ZooTierliste says "besuch 12-2012" which would suggest someone has seen them during a visit.

Would the zoo have mislabelled them as well?
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I only have a very blurry photo of the label so can't see what scientific name is given. However, the home range shown on the sign appears to be closer to that of C. saterei than C. geoffroyi. Hopefully someone with a better image can check the sign.
 
I'll update the list of the second link to correct the error. It was created by other user though a list I sent in catalan and then translated to spanish plus the binomial names. The correct is Callithrix geoffroyi ("Tití de cara blanca" in catalan) as I have photos of this species at 2011 (I don't usually go to marmoset house as it's horrible to take photos).
 
and mystery solved :D

Now someone just needs to remove the addition from Zootierliste.
 
Recent news: the yellow mongoose have a nice new exhibit (just like the warthogs in the African zone).

Hot off the press: the zoo is intending to extend the African elephant area to include the former wapiti, nilgai and giraffe areas. This is all in order to have an elephant yard(s) to enable them to eventually focus on captive-breeding and accomodating a bull facility. The rhino area - formerly up for demolition - will be exempt (curiously as the zoo has no interest to continue with rhinos). The giraffe will be transferred to the milu deer exhibit in the central part of the zoo.

I am surprised they take on the elephant issue right now - probably the vehement animal welfarist criticism of the zoo may have played a part. I would rather like to see them make over the orang exhibit and the other great ape enclosures to give that part of the zoo a more natural feel and feel good factor. Esp. the orangs is badly needed.
 
Banded mongooses (I have preferred yellow mongoses :D). I uploaded some photos on April.

The elephant area will include wapiti, bactrian camel and giraffe areas. The nilgais are at the north of the zoo, still on a "temporary" exhibit since they arrived at the zoo (and during all this time they had 3 calves). The wapities have been moved near the nilgais (where the warthogs were placed when they arrived) and I don't know where the bactrian camels went (I had no time to check if were at the former dromedary camel exhibit).
I also have prefered that they started with the orangutans, because its exhibit is horrible and very bad. In fact, I have prefered that when only one elephant was left at the zoo, she were transfered to other zoo with a better exhibit.
 
@Keeper, posted the news item on Bioparco Consultancy doing the design for the new areas in Barcelona Zoo.

Here is hoping me:
Personally, I like some of their designs (at Bioparco Fuengirola and Valencia) .., just it can be a bit over the top at times with immersion (when this is done at the expense of space ... as is sometimes the case at Fuengirola).

I do still feel animal welfare, husbandry requirements and keeper maintenance should be far more important in modern zoo design. It may / would have to appeal to the visitor, but at spot no. 4, not at no. 1.

We will hopefully be pleasantly surprised to learn what designs they may have in store for Barca. I particularly would like them to do up the African savannah for giraffe and other hoofstock (no birds in there, but on the surrounds please as disaster for them with ...). The current plans that raise the size of the exhibit for elephants at the expense of the others - in particular also the giraffe (the new area is significantly on the small side ..) area.

Also, please do not do away with the Spanish mountains exhibit .. it is an icon for the zoo and it showcases some of the magnificent wildlife (please start a breeding group of the Spanish ibex .. at once) of Spain's interior. It may just do with a little spruce up!! Also, I would love them to keep hold of the bearded and black vulture breeding area too.

I agree the orang exhibit is a total eyesore and requires more immediate replacement (to a lesser extent so are gorilla and chimpanzee areas). It would be nice to have them in multispecies area with gibbons and or langurs. The new designs should also be well aware of the wonderful and deserving primate collection.
 
On june the zoo will start the construction of new exhibits for orangutans, lions, giraffes and the last phase of the elephants exhibit. They are supposed to be finished in june 2015.

A new dolphinarium will be built and they will stop doing dolphin shows in 2017, as the new dolphinarium will be outdoors and without stands. It will have underwater vision.

This is the area where the dolphinarium will be placed. The current covered pabillion will be preserved, at least until the new exhibit will be build: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../bzowjeFxHS8/w700-h467-no/dofinari3032214.jpg

And a detailed map: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...c/pes12cv5LEo/w700-h467-no/dofinari032214.jpg and https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-.../RbFuWvNHIvw/w700-h467-no/dofinari2032214.jpg
 
All good news but particularly on the orang front - that current exhibit is really not good at all.

Also very intrigued by that new dolphin pool - it'll certainly be a big improvement for the animals by the looks of it.

EDIT: Afterthought - I guess this means the sea lions will be departing? Or could they perhaps move into the current dolphinarium (and take over show duties, I suppose)?
 
I welcome the developments for orangs (their old digs is really a tiny enclosure and now packed with .. is it 6 orangs with 3 adults - 1.2 - and 3 offspring) and giraffe-African savannah. The elephants … perhaps in 30 years we might applaud it (it is a non breeding group).

However, I am really not so sure about the dolphin development - it is a political cop-out and really it would have been much much better to have it on the waterfront as was proposed earlier (with a marine aquarium and outdoor exhibits for sea lions and dolphins and quite a few other interesting species).

The waterfront zoo plan / project would originally have been part of Parc Zoologic de Barcelona and in close proximity to the Ciutadella and a world class attraction for a city able to entertain this tourism highlight). I have serious reservations as to the idea - absurd as driven by animal welfarist lobby - that no more dolphin shows will be performed. That will mean dolphin boredom in a few interlinked pools with nothing in the form of behavioral enrichment to keep them occupied.
 
Seems that this time the zoo started seriously with the new exhibits that should start to be constructed next month. At the begining of this month the zoo started to build a temporary exhibits for the animals that will be afected by the construction of the new exhibits for orangutans and the next phase of the Sahel exhibit for lions, elephants and giraffes (in theory mixed with scimitar-horned oryxs, dorcas gazelles and warthogs as these animals also go in this zone, but don't appear on the map that the zoo published of this zone).

The orangutan exhibit has been expanded from the initial plan and now it also will occupy the mandrills pit. The mandrills are going to be moved in a new enclosure that is being constructed in the "Montserrat Mountain", exactly in the spanish ibex exhibit. The spanish ibexs are not on display and I don't know what happened with this species.

The Sahel sabanna zone has also been modified and now the giraffes will have more space, the elephants a lake near a visitor's viewing point and the lion exhibit will be near the giraffes exhibit, with a pit as a separation like the Bioparc Valencia, to simulate that both species are in the same space. Animals affected with this new ampliation are the Pere David's deers and chitals, that will be moved in a new enclosure between the Doñana aviary and the petting zoo. The red deers and fallow deers may be also affected.

The deadline is for June 2015. At this time the new exhibit for Sumatran tigers should start....

On the former hippo exhibit has been built a new simple enclosure for the Galapagos tortoises, so maybe the ones that are inside the terrarium will be moved outside as in the current giant tortoises exhibit there are only two individuals.

Some other exhibits also seem that will be upgraded, as the "Plaça dels Lloros" (Square of the Parrots) that last time was nearly demolished.

No more new information about the dolphinarium.

If I visit the zoo next weekend I'll try to take some photos of all this of this updates, as I suppose that the construction of al temporary exhibits will be in a very advanced process.
 
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