Zooman September 2013 European Zoo tour

I have thought about the comments re what l am not mentioning in my posts, so at Frankfurt l went through one of the walk through bird aviaries determined to focus on the inhabitants!

Seriously what l found most interesting in the aviary was how it was separated into 4 separate enclosures. Each was separated by the standard wire mesh, however the public walkway had doors that were geared to swing, not just once but several times. imagine a single saloon door from a western movie swinging back and forth, a very clever way to keep the birds away!
 

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I was not aware of the disaster when they first opened the renovated ape house, as the original outdoor concept of Gorillas, Colobus and Drill mixed exhibit never happened.

Apparently the Drills introduced a bacteria or ?? That rapidly killed many of the colobus, and they were very concerned it may also effect the gorillas. They still do not know for 100% what killed the Colobus!

So now as you will see in the attached pic that shows about 1/5 of the superb outdoor area for the primates it is only used by the gorillas and as Frankfurt Zoo has a policy of allowing the gorillas to go where they want, they spend a significant amount of time in the tunnels that connect the outdoor area and indoor areas. Probably the most underused exhibit l have ever seen! Very spoilt gorillas, in a enclosure that could house a troop of 15 easily and lock them out on days of good weather as it was the day l visited. IMHO.
 

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Nuremberg Zoo today, way to tired to write thoughts now, l will say it was the best zoo so far on his tour. The standard of enclosures was fantastic.

Attached pic of dolphin viewing window.
 

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Frankfurt Zoo has some of the best and some of the worst exhibits l have seen so far on this tour.QUOTE]

This seems to be a typical refrain in regards to the historic Frankfurt Zoo. Of course there is the great number of zoological rarities but that is apparently offset by the dilemma of comparing fantastic exhibits next to badly outdated ones. Some folks would prefer the more modern habitats to be found in Leipzig, Hannover, Nuremberg, ZOOM, etc, but I'm sure that Frankfurt still has its delights as some ZooChatters rate it very highly indeed.

Keep up the great reports, and why not spend your evenings typing up vast reports? Don't you want to create a large ZooChat fan base? Ha!:)
 
Pilsen Zoo,

What a surprise, a seemingly little zoo in a fairly non descript town two hours drive either way from Nuremburg and Prague two famous cities with great zoos!

When you first drive into the car ark and approach the ticket office, there is every indication that ths wil be a small zoo without a lot of depth of species, there was even only one ticket booth open.

After entering and paying only $5.50 Euro my expectations were not high. The first exhibit sets the standard for the rest of the zoo IMO, a great lion enclosure using water moats and electric fencing as barriers. With mature trees and a decent size. It showed a practical use of space and a construction budget that ensured creativity and practicality were used to ensure a affordable enclosure that maximised public viewing and maximised design/appearance opportunities.

I turned left and tried to follow the suggested path, first enclosure of note was pigmy hippos with the largest land and water area for any zoo enclosure l have seen, they had a large lake with several primate islands that a few could be accessed by the pigmy hippos. Seeing the hippos move about the water and land area was very memorable. There were two adults in the enclosure.

The next enclosure was again a lake with primate islands but the lake was accessed by Indian Rhino who was swimming around and blowing bubbles again a first for me to see a rhino swimming, the blowing of bubbles looked like it was playing but l have no idea??

Another huge enclosure was next for brown bear, built into the side of a steep hill with an abundance of trees and grass areas that were not hot wired, however the two bears both seemed overweight and lethargic. I am thinking that Survival, may be the next best enrichment tool, more about this later. ( ps l am not suggesting we let a animal that is being exhibited starve, l just think they are given too easy a ride and for there own good in captivity )

Displays of huts and life size human figures showing how human existed in different bio geographical areas scattered throughout the zoo. When l saw the first one l was genuinely intrigued and surprised, l am sure teachers with school groups would love it!

Next of note to me was a great outdoor aquarium that l think showed fish from local areas. Often this type of exhibit has dirty glass and not finished very well. This area was very good, it appeared that you were following a stream with the occasional glass wall that showed some great looking fish. Another affordable display that was being exceptionally maintained.

Some great enclosures for snow leopards built on the side of a steep cliff, with the cats using all the viable spaces.

After spending 2 1/2 hours making my way around the steepest and app 2/3 of the zoo, l was really surprised to find the Madagascar area with walk through lemur enclosure, although none to be seen.

There is a network of runs linking the indoor Madagascar exhibits with islands, it also had the capacity to have Fossa use an enclosure for the morning and lemurs for the afternoon, l hope this was the case?

Unfortunately all of the lemurs l saw were either in doors by there own choice or sitting in the network of runs.

The zoo has a incredibly diverse range of birds and reptiles with enclosures scattered all over the zoo, there is even a converted air raid shelter, incredibly claustrophobic and with a horrific history, however they have included many reptile enclosures into the walls of the tunnels, well worth a look.

I found a area for eagles, vultures and owls here they were all tethered to short ropes and there would have been 15 of these birds all lined up with little boxes to sit in. It all looked very strange to me and without understanding the signage, it took me awhile to figure out that just near the birds was a huge outdoor theatre that at some stage could have easily accommodate maybe 20,00 people, it was 7/8 overgrown and derelict however it did appear that they still did bird shows here . It must have been amazing in its prime!

Tamarins and marmosets in a row of enclosures that had matching slightly smaller indoor areas, what was interesting is the diversity of species and seeing hairy armadillos and South American porcupines for the first time :)

I cannot review this zoo nod not mention plants, it seemed that just about every plant had a name tag, there was garden beds geographically themed and glass hothouses that at a distance looked like an animal exhibit and only when closer did l realise they only displayed plants. These garden beds and hot houses were everywhere! Horticulturist must LOVE this zoo, however e not once did l notice a member of the public look at one of these tags!

I particularly lie the garden display of NZ plants it was stunning with a small stream rung through it and what looked lime black volcanic soil, just a beutifull display.

Finally the staff, I have never seen more staff working at a zoo than l did today, they were cleaning, maintaining, feeding, grooming the animals and enclosures throughout the day (Thursday)

I loved this zoo and its great enclosures and would definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to visit one of the great zoos of the world.
 
Pilsen Zoo,

What a surprise, a seemingly little zoo in a fairly non descript town two hours drive either way from Nuremburg and Prague two famous cities with great zoos!
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I loved this zoo and its great enclosures and would definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to visit one of the great zoos of the world.

So glad you were able to make it here and even more glad you enjoyed it - it's such a great zoo and firm evidence that you can keep and display a long list of species in a modern way. Love it.

The zoo also owns the fields across the road from the entrance and this is earmarked for an Asian expansion (including plugging the 'elephant gap'). Not sure what the timescale is but I can't wait to see what they do with this.
 
The zoo also owns the fields across the road from the entrance and this is earmarked for an Asian expansion (including plugging the 'elephant gap'). Not sure what the timescale is but I can't wait to see what they do with this.

Re Elephants I am really surprised that they would consider such an expensive exhibit (indoor facility) and animal. I know you can accurately judge a zoos attendance from one visit but l would not have thought they had the income for this, or do they council/philanthropic support?

Any information on the eagle, owl, vulture presentations and facility? You really do have to see it in person to get an idea of size!
 
Re Elephants I am really surprised that they would consider such an expensive exhibit (indoor facility) and animal. I know you can accurately judge a zoos attendance from one visit but l would not have thought they had the income for this, or do they council/philanthropic support?

Any information on the eagle, owl, vulture presentations and facility? You really do have to see it in person to get an idea of size!

They're traditionally funded by local government, as are most/many of the bigger zoos in the Czech Rep. and Germany, though that funding is tending to dwindle in this age of austerity.

The presentation area is huge, but I've never actually seen a show in progress (too many other animals to see!).
 
Pilsen Zoo,
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I loved this zoo and its great enclosures and would definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to visit one of the great zoos of the world.

As one of the people who recommended that you to added this zoo to your itinerary, I'm so pleased that you were impressed by it and thought your visit worthwhile.

It's definitely one of my personal top five favourite zoos; I'm impatient to get back there...
 
As one of the people who recommended that you to added this zoo to your itinerary, I'm so pleased that you were impressed by it and thought your visit worthwhile.

It's definitely one of my personal top five favourite zoos; I'm impatient to get back there...

Tim you were spot on!

I wonder how many people miss this zoo when touring as it really does not get the PR of the other top zoos of the world!
 
Any information on the eagle, owl, vulture presentations and facility?

The display and flying show is beeing done by an external falconer (hired by the zoo during summer seasons) since 2006. The zoo just tried to find some way how to use the empty space for animal-related exposition.

The amphitheatre was built 1951-1961 with a capacity of 20.000. It was used for concerts and as a summer movie theater. During its prime time in 1970es and 1980es it hosted folk/popular music festivals with over 35.000 paying attendance a day. Also popular Czech comedy movies were able to fill all seats.

The zoo moved to the vinicity of the amphitheatre only in 1963 and for a long time was just a small local collection of common species with rather cramped cages and pens. Its popularity was rather marginal compared to the famous amphitheatre events.

After the velvet revolution, when tastes of people changed and so many new possibilities how to spend free time opened, the amphitheatre quickly lost its importance and attendances dwindled to the point it was closed within 5 years. It started to fall apart and become a pain for the city (=owner). The zoo said it could use more space and the city was more then happy to hand it over (the zoo is also owned by the city so it "stays in the family").

The building behind the stage has been turned into offices for the zoo director and other personel and part is used for breeding of small birds (off-show). Part of the land formely belonging to the amphitheatre has been turned into parking space for zoo visitors.

The zoo still organizes some concerts and movie screeings in the amphitheatre, but the attendance is rather small and financially it barely hits the break even point.

The zoo director sees the amphitheatre as an important historic monument/building (but it is not even a listed building) that he would like to preserve for the future. He tries to find ways how to do it. The option to buldozere it down and use for zoo extension was never considered. Each year, some small amount from the zoo budget is allocated for the amphitheatre maintenance, so its repairs go only very slowly.
 
Thx Jana,

I find all of that very interesting.

I hope they will always continue to use this space as it is a stunning piece of architecture.
 
I visited Prague Zoo several days ago and then went straight to Vienna and have fallen in love with Vienna, it has to be the most beautifull city in the world with a great public transport system!

I seriously struggled to leave Vienna, was totally unexpected seriously if u get a chance go for a week, l know l will return soon.
 
Prague zoo
From all l had heard l did have very high expectations, that were unfortunately not met.

The new elephant exhibit looks very impressive, however the off exhibit area is very small, and while the outdoor area is large l did not see allot if enrichment.

The large savannah area is exactly that very large, again however the off exhibit giraffe area has a appalling design fault where the public look down on the giraffe. While l was at the exhibit all giraffe were in doors as the keepers cleaned up the savannah of animal poo. All ungulates were out except giraffes and watching the large heard of giraffe from above n there small indoor area was not pleasant. You could also view the giraffe from ground level.

The Asian rainforest building with orangs provided relatively small areas for the primates, although they did provide climbing ropes hanging from the rear and roof of the exhibit,

The zoo had a significant number of aviaries scattered all over the zoo, that were of good size particularly some of the owl aviaries.

The gorilla exhibit is fully operational after the floods, other lower areas of the zoo are not, they are still cleaning up ironically the wetland bird areas, the cat indoor area and several other areas including gibbon island and tortoise indoor area.

Interesting to c the gibbon island area drained of water and obviously unused since the flood.

Prague zoo is a good zoo with some very bad exhibits and allot of good and average exhibits, given a choice Pilsen or Nuremberg are both superior.

I really think Pilsen and Nuremberg have set a whole new standard for my expectations!
 
Vienna Zoo,

If you are driving to the zoo, find the rear gate with free car parking, front gate car parking 24 Euro.

A short review for a good zoo that is a great zoo if you observe the history of the place.

I have read about this zoo for 35 years and to actually sit and have lunch on the porch of the central rotunda and soak it all in is truly a wonderful experience.

The care that has been taken to preserve original exhibits and create truly world class exhibits has to be commended.

The primate house is a great example the detail of the preservation and the harmonious way they have created exhibits is very impressive.

The big cat house has many of the old small exhibits incorporated into the new outdoor exhibit areas.

Soaking up the history of the zoo can take all day let alone observing the animals.

A new polar bear exhibit is in construction and l am sure will be very good, it covers a huge area.

The one big flaw with the place was elephants, the exhibit was long and narrow and the indoor area the smallest l have sen on this trip.

The new orangutan exhibit is again beautifully done, with a truckload of enrichment in the large and tall indoor area, however the outdoor area seem to be trying for the naturalistic feel, resulting in very little enrichment available. A good sized exhibit but 3 very bored looking apes.

Vienna Zoo loved It!
 
I will start another thread on enrichment, the more great animal enclosures l see the more apparent it is becoming that enrichment needs to evolve.
 
The one big flaw with the place was elephants, the exhibit was long and narrow and the indoor area the smallest l have sen on this trip.

Of all the zoos that you have visited around the world Zooman, where did you think the best elephant exhibits were?

I am enjoying your tour of Europe.
 
Hi David,
Thank you l am having a amazing experience on this Europe tour, shame about te price of petrol and the roads with tolls! USA was so much cheaper.

I am not a elephant person however IMHO, l thought Oklahomas new exhibit very good, just a shame it only housed two cows and a baby. Allot of space, shade, varied terrain, a very big waterfall ;), and the day l was there the keepers had rotated them through three yards throughout the day.

As for elephant herds l have to say Howletts about 10 years ago it may have changed? It was very impressive in a large yard with grass and a hill, the bull apparently was just the perfect bull elephant and all in the heard were active and communicating it really was a pleasure to sit and watch and very fortunate to have a very chatty elephant keeper sit for 10 minutes and share there experience with the herd.
 
Berlin Zoo,

Another historic zoo, with a significant number of primate and cat enclosures that are just unacceptable. However the history of these enclosures is very fascinating.

Some interesting points,

A walk through sea bird aviary that has a wave machine that made for excellent enrichment for the birds.

The gorilla exhibit a decent size however, came feeding time 11.30 am, a large crowd assembled and we all watched the keeper throw food to the apes, unfortunately and totally by accident a piece of the food hit one of the females in the head. All members of he public laughed.....

There are so many better ways to manage gorilla feedings, is it just keeper time management that stops this?

I watched emus and 3 young wash in a pool in there enclosure fascinating as l had never seen this before and they were a in a great time, l will upload some pics.

Bird aviaries Berlin has the largest number of bird aviaries l have ever seen. A relatively new set was enormous with geographical sections and large indoor mixed exhibits. Along side these new enclosures were some old style aviaries the comparisons were very interesting. Bird enclosures do not seem to have progressed as primate and cat enclosures have. Do we need to provide more enrichment to birds?
 
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