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Hello, so a zoo called "The Negev Zoo" in Israel was closed in 2022 due to renovation/rebranding/overhaul, and is under the name "Midbarium" is there any chance to add zoo's holdings back on site?, all of their public holdings are on their website right here https://midbarium.co.il/animals/
With the some ssp not mentioned which are:
Striped hyena ssp is Syriaca
Leopard is Persian
Giraffe is Cape
Goat is west African pygmy
Wild boar is Anatolian
Ostrich is North African
Egyptian Vulture is Western
Griffon Vulture is Western Eurasian
 
Tea Rex said:
Hello, so a zoo called "The Negev Zoo" in Israel was closed in 2022 due to renovation/rebranding/overhaul, and is under the name "Midbarium" is there any chance to add zoo's holdings back on site?, all of their public holdings are on their website right here https://midbarium.co.il/animals/
With the some ssp not mentioned which are:
Striped hyena ssp is Syriaca
Leopard is Persian
Giraffe is Cape
Goat is west African pygmy
Wild boar is Anatolian
Ostrich is North African
Egyptian Vulture is Western
Griffon Vulture is Western Eurasian
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I changed the name. You can start putting in the species or move from former to current holding.
 
I noticed when I clicked on the Rodents tab there are 2 labels for "spiny dormice" both of which only have 1 entry in each (Beecroft's flying squirrel and Vietnamese pygmy dormouse respectively).
 
Mr Gharial said:
Speaking of countries that are not often visited: I'll be going to Suriname next month and taking stock there. ;)
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I have since added species lists for the Paramaribo zoo and Neotropical butterfly park. But I think the Green heritage fund and the Green heritage fund sloth sanctuary can both be removed from Zootierliste. These are a wildlife veterinary clinic and a separate office building of said clinic. The clinic is technically open to the public (appointment only), but only for education and wild sloth spotting, you can't see the animals in their care because of quarantine issues and the fact that they have a lot of young animals that might imprint on visitors.

I sadly wasn't able to visit the Bird Paradise...
 
I'd like to provide a suggestion

For this list of species holdings, is there a way that the scientific names of the animals in this list can be added in another column so that they can more easily be identified

I ask because when I Google translate the names, I don't get anything right when googling certain names
 
tigris115 said:
I ask because when I Google translate the names, I don't get anything right when googling certain names
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Personally I copy the names and paste them into the German version of the website, then copy the latin name and switch to the English version. But I do agree, that's a little tedious sometimes
 
twilighter said:
Just saw that ZTL lists King Genet (Genetta poensis) in Togo. How realistic is this ?
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It seems unlikely, although it obviously would be within the general distribution.

One of ZTL's problems is that there is no way to tell the accuracy or even the authenticity of listings when it just says something like Besuch. Is the person able to identify species? Did they see an animal or just a sign? Did they even visit at all? No idea.

My own supposition would be that someone visited and either the cage was labeled incorrectly (perhaps just King Genet, or a French name which translated as King Genet), or they made a guess at what it was.
 
Not everyone adding to zootierliste is an uneducated buffoon. For some of the African countries we got pretty good listings from people who are pretty good a identifying species.

Also, as sad as it is, most of the animals in these countries are "rescues" aka wild caught. So often it is pretty easy to deduct the species.
 
Animal said:
Not everyone adding to zootierliste is an uneducated buffoon. For some of the African countries we got pretty good listings from people who are pretty good a identifying species.

Also, as sad as it is, most of the animals in these countries are "rescues" aka wild caught. So often it is pretty easy to deduct the species.
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So are you saying it was an actual King Genet? Is the person going to be publishing anything on this specimen?
 
Chlidonias said:
It seems unlikely, although it obviously would be within the general distribution.

One of ZTL's problems is that there is no way to tell the accuracy or even the authenticity of listings when it just says something like Besuch. Is the person able to identify species? Did they see an animal or just a sign? Did they even visit at all? No idea.

My own supposition would be that someone visited and either the cage was labeled incorrectly (perhaps just King Genet, or a French name which translated as King Genet), or they made a guess at what it was.
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I am pretty sure the case is exactly as you described it, but I was just wondering aren't the ZTL Administrators require more solid proof for cryptic species like King Genet ?

Sorry, @Animal beat me to answer :)
 
PS: I just took the time to look at the google images for this institution and all other species listet on zootierliste are there to be found (among others that we don't list so far).
 
twilighter said:
I am pretty sure the case is exactly as you described it, but I was just wondering aren't the ZTL Administrators require more solid proof for cryptic species like King Genet ?
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We often discuss species that are unlikely to be the ones mentioned, but also we have no way of checking every species entry that was made. It is a community project and the best there is in its way. 100% perfection is neither to be found here, on ZIMS or on zootierliste.

And of course we will look into this specific topic, but you guys are also free to help the research :)
 
PPS: I found on google this image, so maybe that is a clue worth pursuing and we shall find out if there is an error :)Bildschirmfoto 2024-07-27 um 10.44.43.png
 

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Animal said:
PPS: I found on google this image, so maybe that is a clue worth pursuing and we shall find out if there is an error :)View attachment 719435
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That (or they? Kind of looks like two animals) isn't King Genet - King Genets have a patterning of spots fused into stripes, like a King Cheetah. They are very distinctive.
 
Yes, it was more that this is a species that lives (lived) there. Maybe they were confused with the king or there were several. I am just trying to untangle it. What kind might these then be?
 
Animal said:
Yes, it was more that this is a species that lives (lived) there. Maybe they were confused with the king or there were several. I am just trying to untangle it. What kind might these then be?
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I will definitely go for Genetta maculata, but of course not 100 % sure.
 
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