Bristol Zoo (Closed) Bristols new zoo

NWCP ave space for eles, but may not because bristol zoo has had a poor history with eles

I know what you are saying but actually Bristol Zoo's recent elephants apart from Christina, lived to a reasonable age and as a small urban zoo they couldn't be expected to house more than one or two females at a time, so have never been able to attempt breeding. I think their record with them is typical for a zoo of that type. I don't think elephants feature in any of the plans of the NWCP though.
 
i'm glad the park aren't planing to get elephants, after all not every large park need elephants, it gives the park character.
 
I know what you are saying but actually Bristol Zoo's recent elephants apart from Christina, lived to a reasonable age and as a small urban zoo they couldn't be expected to house more than one or two females at a time, so have never been able to attempt breeding. I think their record with them is typical for a zoo of that type. I don't think elephants feature in any of the plans of the NWCP though.

My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't say they had a bad history. All of them lived to a decent age, and it's not like they tried to breed them and failed.
 
good point, never thought about that
what i ment was that Small enclosure, concreat (not exacly the best)
and eles are endangered
 
whats the big deal with elephants? the main draw for NWCP will be its bonobos and mantees to me
 
Well, find me 10 average zoo-goers (public), and ask them if they know what a Bonobo is.
 
I prefer eles myself, but bonobo's are cool, and it would be good to see them in the UK aswell as the twycross group.
 
i think i can picture the adverts in my mind and i can see the main draw being able to explore through the jungle, trek thorugh the savvanah etc. i think the biomes will be a bigger attraction
 
i think i can picture the adverts in my mind and i can see the main draw being able to explore through the jungle, trek thorugh the savvanah etc. i think the biomes will be a bigger attraction

I think that's true in part, but you have to trek the savannah to see big game or explore the jungle to see the creatures that lurk in the shadows.

The biomes do offer an immersion experience but the visitors expect to see the 'big' animals or they do not think this experience is complete. Having said that, with Tigers, Giraffe, Zebra, Brown Bear, Wolves, Bonobo, Orang-utan, Manatee etc, i think that elephants are unneccessary and just open the zoo to attack from animal 'rights' groups no matter how good their enclosure is.
 
I think they'll get attacked for having manatees, can just here the whole "no conservation value" and "just a promotional gimmick" etc.
 
I think that's true in part, but you have to trek the savannah to see big game or explore the jungle to see the creatures that lurk in the shadows.

The biomes do offer an immersion experience but the visitors expect to see the 'big' animals or they do not think this experience is complete. Having said that, with Tigers, Giraffe, Zebra, Brown Bear, Wolves, Bonobo, Orang-utan, Manatee etc, i think that elephants are unneccessary and just open the zoo to attack from animal 'rights' groups no matter how good their enclosure is.

then why do people visit the eden project? most of the visitors dont go there becasuse they want to see a particualrly rare plant. but to be immersed in the jungle and to look in awe at the giant bubbles. my point is the parks main selling pint is the immersion and they should use this rather than try to introduce major species such as the elephants:cool:
 
Given the right exhibit presentation and interactive interpretation bonobos are just as interesting as your regular chimps. I really do not think that it matters much as both belong to the genus Pan!

I trust this is meant to be ironic. :rolleyes:
Go to the Great Ape Trust in Des Moines and ask Kanzi and Panbanisha what they think!

Alan
 
then why do people visit the eden project? most of the visitors dont go there becasuse they want to see a particualrly rare plant. but to be immersed in the jungle and to look in awe at the giant bubbles. my point is the parks main selling pint is the immersion and they should use this rather than try to introduce major species such as the elephants:cool:

I understand what you are saying, but i don't think that the average visitor goes to a zoo to be immersed in an environment. They go to see the elephants, giraffes, lions and tigers; the immersion is a bonus.

As for the eden project, i think the two are very different - the word zoo makes one think of animals and the public viewing them whereas the word eden gives us an impression of a beautiful and tranquil garden of plants. It is also worth recognising that visitor numbers for the eden project have plummeted in recent years as, once someone has visited, there is nothing to go back for, to most people it is a novelty rather than an attraction. Unlike a zoo where the animals are always doing something different so people have an incentive to return.

I, personally, love being immersed in biomes and am as interested in the exhibits as the animals themselves but i think that the average visitor is there to see the crowd-pullers - not how well recreated their habitat is.
 
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I trust this is meant to be ironic. :rolleyes:
Go to the Great Ape Trust in Des Moines and ask Kanzi and Panbanisha what they think!

Alan

yeah, i think bonobos are much more interesting than chimps, i cant wait till next summer when i finally get to see them for the first time
 
lets say this
firstley
manatees do have a conservation value
secondly
NWCP has a great potential like every species in world class habitats is what i can see
thirdly
a person who goes back to eden
"wow theres a new flower"
 
I didn't manatees don't have conservation value, I just meant antis would say they don't because... Well... that's them lol
 
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