ZSL London Zoo giant pandas for London?

i would like to see the sumartran tigers swaped with the amur, i always thought that the whipsnade enclosure would sute sumartrans
 
i would like to see the sumartran tigers swaped with the amur, i always thought that the whipsnade enclosure would sute sumartrans

The Siberians are huge in comparison to the Sumatrans. Whipsnade's enclosure was designed and is large enough for them. London's is far too small.
 
Although I see where cat-man is coming from, the Whipsnade enclosure does seem more suited to Sumatran tigers.
 
i think that as it is the exhibit is not really 100% suitable for any sub-species of tiger, big or small. they may be dramatically different in size, but im not sure how that translates legitamately into size of enclosures needed for either tiger SS. as it is, im happy to suggest that London could create a sutiable enclosure for amur tigers
reckon the London enclosure could certainly be improved upon to suit Amur Tigers. if this Wild China idea came to fruition, i would build a new holding area for tigers with a rooftop holding cage, perhaps raised out towards the back of the 3 ISLAND POND to allow the zoo to hold the animals seperately and give the zoo more space. tigers quickly adapt to multi-level holding areas and any views from here would be quite stimulating for the animals.
before i replaced the netting, i would install about a dozen upright tree trunks, mainly pine, with deadfall leaning up against them to create aerial pathways in a sense. the current wire viewing areas to the side of the exhibit would be glassed in and the glass brought out past where the gardens currently sit, to give the animals additional space, and as i said the water feature at the front of the exhibit would jut out ideally, and as i said, landscaped with boulders, rock crags and overhangs, caves and deadfall with plenty of vegetation i think quite a stimulating environment for the animals could be created.
 
i would like to see the sumartran tigers swaped with the amur, i always thought that the whipsnade enclosure would sute sumartrans

why are you copying people, if you look back cat-man that suggestion has already been made!
 
they may be dramatically different in size, but im not sure how that translates legitamately into size of enclosures needed for either tiger SS. as it is, im happy to suggest that London could create a sutiable enclosure for amur tigers

the suggestion was that the Whipsnade Siberians and London's Sumatrans could be swapped, but the existing London enclosure is far too small for the much larger Siberians.

You idea of exhibiting Siberians in London, in an enclosure designed along the lines you suggest, is perfectly feasible. I'm just suggesting that a swap could not be done with the existing enclosure. Its true that Siberian tigers do generally make a better exhibit, often being more prominent and willing to display themselves.
 
the suggestion was that the Whipsnade Siberians and London's Sumatrans could be swapped, but the existing London enclosure is far too small for the much larger Siberians.

You idea of exhibiting Siberians in London, in an enclosure designed along the lines you suggest, is perfectly feasible. I'm just suggesting that a swap could not be done with the existing enclosure. Its true that Siberian tigers do generally make a better exhibit, often being more prominent and willing to display themselves.

Well, exhibit attraction is only one side of the equation. If that were the main criterium than most zoos would not go beyond giraffe-lion-elephant. Thankfully, other aspects including the endangered species level and collection plan/biome zoo plan considerations come into play.

The London site is - to my mind - not large enough to accomodate Siberian tigers nor does it suit the collection plan truthfully. I rather feel that ZSL Regent's Park should focus on strictly Asian carnivores (both Asiatic lions and Sumatran tigers). Admittedly even the current Terraces are not conducive to breeding of either felid and to my eye are not quite that attractive. If the Gorilla Haven is something to go by, the proposed investment for the new Sumatran tiger exhibit should prove something magical.
 
Whichever sub species it is, tigers HAVE to stay at Regents park along with lions, in the past 10 years or so too many of the popular species such as elephant, rhino, orang utan, sea lion have left the collection.
With visitor numbers starting to rise quite significantly, the zoo needs to consolidate its current collection, with better housing and bringing in a few new species yes.
In my humble opinion i do think pandas will come to London to tie up with the olympic games, but what will come first a world class olympic stadium or a world class panda exhibit, being British i am pessimistic on both!
 
Whichever sub species it is, tigers HAVE to stay at Regents park along with lions, in the past 10 years or so too many of the popular species such as elephant, rhino, orang utan, sea lion have left the collection.
With visitor numbers starting to rise quite significantly, the zoo needs to consolidate its current collection, with better housing and bringing in a few new species yes.
In my humble opinion i do think pandas will come to London to tie up with the olympic games, but what will come first a world class olympic stadium or a world class panda exhibit, being British i am pessimistic on both!

dont bite my head off, but my opinion is yes tigers are a big publicity boost, but lions...no, the enclosure at london makes them very hard to see and though it looks great it isnt great for the every day zoo visitor
 
The current terraces? Or if you're going by the Wild China basis, then why not the Mappin Terraces or the North Bank? Don't be close-minded. ;)
 
I think inevitably one of the species, be it tigers, lions or pandas, will have to have a new enclosure built from scratch, and its a case of where the hell where lol. I don't have any idea where the tigers would go in their planned new enclosure.
 
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