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Been muling some of these thoughts about the future of the zoo with the current happenings over for sometime now. Trying to understand what Milwaukee is envisioning for the future has been extremely difficult, even with the knowledge of their master plan.

I would agree, I am kinda concerned on how things are shaping up to be with these new improvements to the zoo. I am glad to see the hippos getting a new outdoor area where we can now see them while in the water but yet I have been having a hard time seeing it as a real improvement since it seems like the size is similar to what already exist. Yes, the outdoor exhibit is becoming 3x bigger but yet the original exhibit wasn't that big to begin with, so promoting it like they are seems more like a gimmick than true expansion.

I am trying to be hopeful of phase 3 in this build but there's a lot of work that needs to be down in order to tie everything together and I am not sure if the zoo has the confidence to do it, the right way. Phase 3 of this looks to be, if not the most intense overhaul to the area; The mallway (the area between the hippos and rhinos indoor exhibits) needs to be enclosed and renovated, and the outdoor rhino exhibits and other exhibits need to be renovated, just to name some of the larger projects. The zoo seems to be struggling to find donations for the first 2 phases, my hope is that they are going to do the final phase that wraps everything together well, although my hope for that is dwindling. Not to mention it looks like they are putting phase 3 off a year so it won't be done till 2022. Not sure if that is also due to events that are happening in Milwaukee next summer that might hamper the start of construction or not.

Now that phase 1 has had some time to settle in, I still feel like it's a meh to disappointing phase. Yes the elephants have more room to roam, however there is a lot left to be desired. There is nothing to "write home to mom" about with these exhibits. The Impala Plains and African Forest exhibits are just eh, and the elephants exhibit is very sterile looking as well. At least in the past there was some vegetation that made the exhibit look more natural of sorts. In the Impala yard, the one ostrich was/is overly stressed out by the exhibit that it over pruned its backside to where there was very little feathers left. Not to mention with the chain link fence that does nothing really for the exhibit I feel, sure you can get "closer" to the animals but at what costs? People can't even get clear photos of animals unless they have a really good lens that can shoot through the fence. That African Forest area as well, its been hard to see the animals and people can now only travel around half the exhibit. The overall area doesn't feel as welcoming as I was expecting, especially when you walk past the the elephant center and around to where the former dall sheep were. Its a lot of fencing in that area and makes me personally feel a bit claustrophobic and that's not something I deal with.

I really want to be optimistic about the changes that the zoo is making but they don't seem to making the changes that will positively impact and last years before they need to redo the exhibits. I keep hoping that something big and positive will happen that will change this trajectory but nothing is coming. Just looking at the master plan and seeing that by the time they finish Adventure Africa, the current timeline in the master plan would have been finishing up the first half of the master plan, Adventure African, Alaskan Gold Coast, renovation to the farm, and the main entrance area. I can't help look at other zoos, like the Omaha zoo, where in the same time frame that have rebuilt so much of their zoo and made exhibits that will last, that are both enriching to the animals and to the guest. Milwaukee just seems to be existing or trying to just meet the minimum requirements to retain their accreditation.
Well said. I agree with everything you're saying here. It can be tough to be optimistic about the future with small, but repeated, let downs. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised by phase 2? Or at least hopefully phase 3. I've been going to the Milwaukee Zoo at least 6 times a year my whole life, I love the zoo, but even as someone who loves the zoo, you'd have to be blind to not see its unreached potential; especially when comparing it to other zoos.
 
Well said. I agree with everything you're saying here. It can be tough to be optimistic about the future with small, but repeated, let downs. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised by phase 2? Or at least hopefully phase 3. I've been going to the Milwaukee Zoo at least 6 times a year my whole life, I love the zoo, but even as someone who loves the zoo, you'd have to be blind to not see its unreached potential; especially when comparing it to other zoos.

I actually just visited the zoo today! (The visit as amazing! We were the only ones there and we got to see everything besides the Spotted Hyenas, Red Pandas, and some of the other seasonal animals like Impala, Duikers, etc. I also got to see AMAZING interactions between the bonobos.) When I saw the new expansion that they had been constructing last time I visited, I really wasn't too impressed. The African Elephant indoor space is extremely boring, the only thing one of the females had to do was break sticks in a corner. She only had one ball to play with as well. The Impala Plains exhibit was plain, but I guess they really don't need much to do. I didn't get around to seeing the bongo exhibit.
Everything else at the zoo is pretty interesting. I'm sure the North American expansion they plan on doing will be beneficial for the zoo, we all just have to hope that the zoo can actually get the funding to complete their projects.
After having such an impactful visit to the zoo I've really grown fond towards it. I haven't been there too many times in the past - due to it being three hours away - and visiting while you're the only people there and have almost every species you see be active is insane. I'm rooting for Milwaukee County Zoo!
 
Been muling some of these thoughts about the future of the zoo with the current happenings over for sometime now. Trying to understand what Milwaukee is envisioning for the future has been extremely difficult, even with the knowledge of their master plan.

I would agree, I am kinda concerned on how things are shaping up to be with these new improvements to the zoo. I am glad to see the hippos getting a new outdoor area where we can now see them while in the water but yet I have been having a hard time seeing it as a real improvement since it seems like the size is similar to what already exist. Yes, the outdoor exhibit is becoming 3x bigger but yet the original exhibit wasn't that big to begin with, so promoting it like they are seems more like a gimmick than true expansion.

I am trying to be hopeful of phase 3 in this build but there's a lot of work that needs to be down in order to tie everything together and I am not sure if the zoo has the confidence to do it, the right way. Phase 3 of this looks to be, if not the most intense overhaul to the area; The mallway (the area between the hippos and rhinos indoor exhibits) needs to be enclosed and renovated, and the outdoor rhino exhibits and other exhibits need to be renovated, just to name some of the larger projects. The zoo seems to be struggling to find donations for the first 2 phases, my hope is that they are going to do the final phase that wraps everything together well, although my hope for that is dwindling. Not to mention it looks like they are putting phase 3 off a year so it won't be done till 2022. Not sure if that is also due to events that are happening in Milwaukee next summer that might hamper the start of construction or not.

Now that phase 1 has had some time to settle in, I still feel like it's a meh to disappointing phase. Yes the elephants have more room to roam, however there is a lot left to be desired. There is nothing to "write home to mom" about with these exhibits. The Impala Plains and African Forest exhibits are just eh, and the elephants exhibit is very sterile looking as well. At least in the past there was some vegetation that made the exhibit look more natural of sorts. In the Impala yard, the one ostrich was/is overly stressed out by the exhibit that it over pruned its backside to where there was very little feathers left. Not to mention with the chain link fence that does nothing really for the exhibit I feel, sure you can get "closer" to the animals but at what costs? People can't even get clear photos of animals unless they have a really good lens that can shoot through the fence. That African Forest area as well, its been hard to see the animals and people can now only travel around half the exhibit. The overall area doesn't feel as welcoming as I was expecting, especially when you walk past the the elephant center and around to where the former dall sheep were. Its a lot of fencing in that area and makes me personally feel a bit claustrophobic and that's not something I deal with.

I really want to be optimistic about the changes that the zoo is making but they don't seem to making the changes that will positively impact and last years before they need to redo the exhibits. I keep hoping that something big and positive will happen that will change this trajectory but nothing is coming. Just looking at the master plan and seeing that by the time they finish Adventure Africa, the current timeline in the master plan would have been finishing up the first half of the master plan, Adventure African, Alaskan Gold Coast, renovation to the farm, and the main entrance area. I can't help look at other zoos, like the Omaha zoo, where in the same time frame that have rebuilt so much of their zoo and made exhibits that will last, that are both enriching to the animals and to the guest. Milwaukee just seems to be existing or trying to just meet the minimum requirements to retain their accreditation.
Yeah I do feel kind of bad for the zoo because they want to make the best habitats possible and best experience for guests but don’t get the funding to do it all... I personally think that Adventure Africa is harder for the zoo to build because it’s just not something real natural to our typical Wisconsin atmosphere ... don’t really know if that’s the right way to explain it! But I feel hopeful for their future and the wild woods and Alaska cold coast should be easier because of our weather and nature so it will be easier to design better or more interesting exhibits... the zoo is doing a great job whether the exhibits are decent not great. They will eventually build up slowly and become even better especially with the next few areas of the master plan
 
I was pondering this thought the other day, about African Dogs coming to Milwaukee. Currently the African Savannah exhibit is looking a little sparse with many of the animals moving over to phase 1. The master plan has mentioned that Milwaukee would get them but I haven’t been able to figure out where and then it kinda hit me, what about the African Savannah exhibit? I’m not sure if that’s happening for sure there but that would seem like a good spot. Here’s to waiting patiently to see what’s happening.
 
Yeah I do feel kind of bad for the zoo because they want to make the best habitats possible and best experience for guests but don’t get the funding to do it all... I personally think that Adventure Africa is harder for the zoo to build because it’s just not something real natural to our typical Wisconsin atmosphere ... don’t really know if that’s the right way to explain it! But I feel hopeful for their future and the wild woods and Alaska cold coast should be easier because of our weather and nature so it will be easier to design better or more interesting exhibits... the zoo is doing a great job whether the exhibits are decent not great. They will eventually build up slowly and become even better especially with the next few areas of the master plan
I would agree that I am more hopeful for the Wild Woods area after seeing what they did with the otters. The Wild Woods also seems to be a little more budget friendly for the zoo since they already have the woods to work with, its more theming that they would have to do for that area. Although Alaska Gold Coast would be similar in design per se, I feel that this area too may struggle for finances cause the two big areas that would be apart of that area, sea lions and polar bears, have tanks that would need to be built. Just looking at zoos around us that have built some of those exhibits recently, they cost more than the first phase of Adventure Africa.

Not saying I don't believe in the zoo or anything of the sort, I feel that its going to be an up hill battle for them to get the funds to complete some of these projects because some of the projects coming up I am assuming will coast about the same as the whole Adventure Africa expansion.
 
I was pondering this thought the other day, about African Dogs coming to Milwaukee. Currently the African Savannah exhibit is looking a little sparse with many of the animals moving over to phase 1. The master plan has mentioned that Milwaukee would get them but I haven’t been able to figure out where and then it kinda hit me, what about the African Savannah exhibit? I’m not sure if that’s happening for sure there but that would seem like a good spot. Here’s to waiting patiently to see what’s happening.

Milwaukee having African Wild Dogs would be amazing! It's hard to not appreciate how diverse and interesting Milwaukee's collection is currently, but adding AWDs would make it even better.
 
Milwaukee having African Wild Dogs would be amazing! It's hard to not appreciate how diverse and interesting Milwaukee's collection is currently, but adding AWDs would make it even better.
If they were to add AWDs, it would be another animal they, Brookfield, and Lincoln Park all have, but I would be interested in what the exhibit for them would be like
 
I was pondering this thought the other day, about African Dogs coming to Milwaukee. Currently the African Savannah exhibit is looking a little sparse with many of the animals moving over to phase 1. The master plan has mentioned that Milwaukee would get them but I haven’t been able to figure out where and then it kinda hit me, what about the African Savannah exhibit? I’m not sure if that’s happening for sure there but that would seem like a good spot. Here’s to waiting patiently to see what’s happening.
Was it the 2013 master plan saying this? I would love to see them at MCZ and I also am wondering where they could end up
 
Was at the zoo last week and started talking to a zoo ambassador about the fate of the Milwaukee Zoo and silverbacks. It appears that we shouldn’t expect much to change for at least a year. They are still trying to decided what should happen with working with the SSP. It appears that both of male silverbacks will be staying, however she did say there MAY be a a chance that we get a troop from the Columbus Zoo. I would take that with a huge grain a salt but also would be exciting to see a family unit again at the zoo.

min other news work seems to be going quickly on the hippo exhibit. The interesting part though it appears that they are filling in the hole in the wall in the African Savannah exhibit that used to look into the Bongos exhibit. Could that mean they are also trying to prepare the African Savannah for a new species or is it just making sure that exhibit is protected since a path is going to be running thru there when the hippo exhibit opens?

Also, you can see Belle the elephant in the back of the Elephant Barn and Ruth and Brittany are very intrigued by here and have been trying everything to meet her.
 
min other news work seems to be going quickly on the hippo exhibit. The interesting part though it appears that they are filling in the hole in the wall in the African Savannah exhibit that used to look into the Bongos exhibit. Could that mean they are also trying to prepare the African Savannah for a new species or is it just making sure that exhibit is protected since a path is going to be running thru there when the hippo exhibit opens?
What hole are you referencing? Do you mean the viewing deck in between the Savannah and old bongo exhibit?
 
Was at the zoo last week and started talking to a zoo ambassador about the fate of the Milwaukee Zoo and silverbacks. It appears that we shouldn’t expect much to change for at least a year. They are still trying to decided what should happen with working with the SSP. It appears that both of male silverbacks will be staying, however she did say there MAY be a a chance that we get a troop from the Columbus Zoo. I would take that with a huge grain a salt but also would be exciting to see a family unit again at the zoo.

It would be amazing to see an entire troop of gorillas to Milwaukee again. Did she say how many gorillas from Columbus could be moved over?
 
How genetically represented are the erstwhile and currently remaining males for the Gorilla SSP?

There are 177 male gorillas in the United States, Canada, and Mexico that I've got recorded. Most of them are in the facilities associated with the SSP, so it would take a while to analyze how represented each of them are in the population. That's the SSP's job to do. :p
 
A random thought/question after reading about Akron Zoo's new lion exhibit, has anyone heard or seen anything regarding introducing the younger lionesses we got a couple of years ago to male, Themba, yet? I know that was the original plan with them and Themba is getting older, and I haven't heard anything since the girls arrived.
 
A random thought/question after reading about Akron Zoo's new lion exhibit, has anyone heard or seen anything regarding introducing the younger lionesses we got a couple of years ago to male, Themba, yet? I know that was the original plan with them and Themba is getting older, and I haven't heard anything since the girls arrived.

I don’t recall when I read or heard about it, either earlier this year or last year, but I believe it was mentioned that Themba did start getting introduced to one of the girls - forgot which one though (Amali maybe?).

I’m hoping to make it to the Zoo soon, possibly as soon as the weekend, so maybe I can find out.
 
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