First mix would not work simply because Japanese giant salamanders eat fish. I'd be wary of the second tank too, as I'm pretty sure the bass would eat the crappie if they could.
Mixed species exhibit ideas
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First mix would not work simply because Japanese giant salamanders eat fish. I'd be wary of the second tank too, as I'm pretty sure the bass would eat the crappie if they could.
Would an Eastern screech-owl and an Eastern spotted skunk be able to share a nocturnal exhibit? Are there any real life examples of this or similar pairings?
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Thanks! I'll move the salamander and the bass to another tank then. I'm planning to have a North American predators tank with pike, catfish and stuff, so the bass will go in there. Might replace the bass with pumkinseed sunfish or something.
Will a mix between Kori Bustards and Red-Flanked Duikers work out feasibly?
Will a mix between Sumatran Orangutans and Silvery Leaf Langurs work out in a feasible manner (with places where the langurs can escape from the orangs).
I hope that this thread hasn’t become dead because it has been one of my favorite forums on ZooChat since I first joined.
I don't think it is but to make sure it doesn't I'll post mine
Thomson's Gazelle
Grant's Zebra
Blue gnu
Reticulated Giraffe
Cape Buffalo
Sable Antelope
Springbok
White Rhino
Waterbuck
Aardvark
Warthog
Edit: This is obviously the African Savannah Exhibit
Thomson's Gazelle
Grant's Zebra
Blue gnu
Reticulated Giraffe
Cape Buffalo
Sable Antelope
Springbok
White Rhino
Waterbuck
Aardvark
Warthog
Edit: This is obviously the African Savannah Exhibit
Thanks, that means a lot to me
No problem @LowlandGorilla4
The aardvark's and warthog's digging behavior could cause ungulates to trip and fall, though this is mostly a problem in smaller exhibits where they basically dig up the entire enclosure. The Thomson's gazelles and springbok are fragile and more audacious animals like the gnu, buffalo and zebra can cause problems with them (not a certainty, I'd guess about a 50/50 risk). Combining springbok and Thomson's gazelle can also cause problems due to aggressive behavior between males (gazelles in general can be quite aggressive to males of other gazelle species), so this would need to be monitored tightly. Lastly, buffalo are quite the troublemakers in general so they might need to be removed. Once again however they have been combined with other ungulates in a few institutions with success, so it's not a guaranteed failure.
When it comes to behavior I think they should combine well as hanuman langurs do combine well with orang-utans. The thing that I don't know is wether disease-transfer could be a problem, I'm not familiar enough with orang and leaf-langur biology for that.
Thanks for the help, this exhibit would be quite large, about 3-4 acres but those are all still valid points, thanks for your help
I’m currently developing a massive water hole exhibit for at least six species of African waterfowl for a future project of mine.I am not so sure however if this mix will work out feasibly so I need your guys opinions.
Here is what I was personally thinking for the exhibit,but then again I could always change out what animals will be displayed.
Pink-backed pelican,
Yellow-billed stork, (not sure with this one) *
African comb duck,
Cape shelduck,
Lesser Flamingo (not sure with this one either)
Red-billed teal,
African spoonbill.
* means clipped (since this is a NOT an aviary)
Just let me know on what your opinion on my mix is and again I can always change the species list and I can remove a few species out of the list just in case to be more realistic.
~Austin the Sengi
Here is what I was personally thinking for the exhibit,but then again I could always change out what animals will be displayed.
Pink-backed pelican,
Yellow-billed stork, (not sure with this one) *
African comb duck,
Cape shelduck,
Lesser Flamingo (not sure with this one either)
Red-billed teal,
African spoonbill.
* means clipped (since this is a NOT an aviary)
Just let me know on what your opinion on my mix is and again I can always change the species list and I can remove a few species out of the list just in case to be more realistic.
~Austin the Sengi
I'm not sure if the mix will work but I'd suggest clipping the feathers monthly rather than pinioning. Pinioning is irreversible and in my opinion not necessary in this situation
Thanks @LowlandGorilla4 I have since edited the post to say clipping the wings instead of pinioning them.
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I would especially vouch against wingclipping/pinioning the storks, I'd dare to say that this is actually a threat to establishing a sustainable captive population. These arboreal breeders really need an aviary. I'd say the same about the spoonbills for the same reason, they also breed in trees normally. In Europe also these bird-groups are almost never pinioned anymore these days. Flamingo also breed much worse in open-topped exhibits, not without reason that the trend is to go towards aviaries for them.
About the combination. The pelicans might cause trouble, but might also not. It depends a lot on the layout and size. The rest should get along fine.
About the combination. The pelicans might cause trouble, but might also not. It depends a lot on the layout and size. The rest should get along fine.
Very nice! Although I would like to point out a few things:
- Warthogs are somewhat aggressive, so I’m not sure how they would react to the aardvark. They could potentially get along though.
- The larger herbivores (like the rhino, giraffe, and buffalo), could potentially trample the aardvark or warthog piglets.
- Zebras are known to kill newborn and young calves of other herbivores (gnu, antelope), so when the breeding season comes, it would be best to remove them temporarily until the calves grow up.
- Rhinos and buffalos are territorial animals, and may attack the other animals if they feel threatened or overcrowded.
Keep up the good work!
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Look in the Temaiken biopark (Argentina) and Brasilia zoo (Brazil) media galleries on this site and you will see proof that it has been done in zoos (the gallery is a good resource to see what works and doesn't work in terms of zoos so use it as a reference).
Yacare caimans and capybara live side by side in the wild in the Brazilian Pantanal and spectacled caiman and capybara also can be seen doing exactly the same in the Colombian and Venezuelan Llanos.
While the caiman species above will opportunistically prey on young capybara they don't tend to typically go for adults.
The black caiman would be another issue entirely and would probably prey on both adult capybara and their young if kept in a mixed species enclosure.
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Thanks for your help, I'll certainly take that into consideration