The Cape mountain zebra intrigued me as well
wilhelma is my home zoo and i think it will be even better when the small mammal and bird house aswell as the australia house are open.
It seems wrong. I've looked ZTL and based on their data Zoo Leipzig doesn't keep Malayan tigers. They have Siberians.Zoo Leipzig
Malayan tiger,
It seems wrong. I've looked ZTL and based on their data Zoo Leipzig doesn't keep Malayan tigers. They have Siberians.
Right, I'm back. The Chester Zoo map issue hasn't been solved yet but I'll get around to that as soon as possible. Anyway, here is the next installment of Germany. An interesting one, as it is based on a bracket which is just as large as the rest but the number of zoos with rarities is much smaller, with Stuttgart being the only big name in the bracket. A few nice surprises though.
Tiergarten Peine - Cactus deermouse, Chinese hamster, Matthey's mouse, Barred tiger salamander, Palmate newt, Alpine newt (NS).
Potsdam Naturhistorischesmuseum - Eurasian brook lamprey.
Potsdam Biosphare - Lined day gecko, South American green iguana.
Reichshof-Eckenhagen - Eastern paradise whydah, Southern masked weaver, Taveta golden weaver, White-bellied go-away bird.
Terrazoo Rheinberg
Fairly small reptilarium with a fair few interesting venomous snake species in particular.
Reptiles: Arabian cobra, Bibron's thick-toed gecko, Children's python, Cuban giant dusky dwarf boa, Dusky pygmy rattlesnake, Massassauga, Siamese green-eyed gecko, Shield-nose snake, Southern copperhead, Transcaucasian long-nosed viper, Western pygmy rattlesnake.
Amphibians: Two-toed amphiuma.
Tierpark Riesa - European great spotted woodpecker.
Tierpark Donnersberg
A fairly small collection but crammed to the brim with rarities, particularly of the small carnivore variety! Should be up there on the list for those who like such species.
Mammals: Bearded capuchin, Black-rumped agouti, Common rock squirrel, Gordon's wildcat, Hoffmann's two-toed sloth, Lesser bamboo rat, Little grison, Marsh mongoose, Philippine palm civet, Screaming hairy armadillo, Sumatran common palm civet, Two-spotted palm civet.
Zoo Rostock - Graell's tamarin, Harris's antelope squirrel, Grey slender loris, Spectacled eider, Southern brown tortoise, Black rockfish, Boadzulu cichlid, Mosquito rasbora, Painted greenling, Peppered moray, Randall's prawn-goby,
Rubeland - Olm
Saarbrucken - Eastern ring-tailed vontsira, Children's python, Four-lined girdled lizard, Mediterranean house gecko.
Reptilienzoo Scheidegg
Another small reptile collection but with lots of unique species, particularly rattlesnake species.
Reptiles: Baird's rat snake, Carrot-tail viper gecko, Isla Angel rattlesnake, Oaxacan black-tailed rattlesnake, Southern American rattlesnake, Southwestern speckled rattlesnake, Western Russell's viper.
Schillingsfurst - Western saker falcon.
Schangenfarm Schladen - Black-headed royal snake, Dusky pygmy rattlesnake, Pacific boa.
Tiergarten Bierer Berg (Schonebeck)
Another small(ish) collection, this time with a fair few rodent rarities.
Mammals: Coruro, Eurasian water vole, Greater grison, Levant vole, Northern mountain viscacha, Palestine spiny mouse, Plains viscacha, Smith's bush squirrel, Typical striped grass mouse, Woodchuck, Yucatan squirrel.
Birds: Hooded siskin.
Zoo Schwerin - Kane's cory.
Senftenberg - African grass rat, Persian jird (rossicus).
Solingen-Ohligs - Common aztec parakeet.
Aquarium Sonneberg - Gray short-tailed opossum, Angolan walking catfish, Castelnau's jawfish, Twobar anemonefish.
Terrazoo Sontra - Black tree snake, Blanding's turtle, Desert cobra, Eastern brown snake, Mauretanian toad, Narrow-bridged musk turtle, Timber rattlesnake.
St Leon-Rot - Hooded siskin.
St Peter Ording - African grey-headed gull, Great black-backed gull, Mediterranean gull, Northern gannet, Spotted turtle, Wagner's viper.
Staßfurt - Costa Rica variegated squirrel.
Freiland Terrarium Stein - Danube crested newt.
Aquarium Stralsund - 34 fish species (see earlier posts for explanations of what will be done about this).
Zoo Stralsund - North American deermouse.
Tiergaten Straubing - Brook's house gecko, MacDougall's spiny lizard.
Vogelpark Friedrichstal Stutensee - Eurasian blackcap (NS).
Wilhelma (Stuttgart)
The only big name in this bracket, Stuttgart has a lot of rarities, more than I thought at first. This is mainly bolstered by a good fish collection. Some really nice rarities here, North Island kaka, Yellow oriole, Bioko munia etc.
Mammals: Greater slow loris, Matthey's mouse.
Birds: Bay-headed tanager, Bioko munia, Black-bellied sandgrouse, Blue ground dove, Blue-cheeked amazon, Chilean tinamou, Collared grosbeak, Greater roadrunner, Green oropendola, Green twinspot, Green-mantled tanager, Grey wagtail, Kenyan variable sunbird, Kittlitz's plover, Layard's black-headed weaver, Lesser Antillean bullfinch, North Island kaka, Northern gannet, Pacific hornero, Picazuro pigeon, Purple grenadier, Rose-crowned fruit dove, Ruddy quail-dove, Spectacled parrotlet, Uganda red-billed firefinch, Violaceous euphonia, White-eared catbird, White-winged grosbeak, Yellow oriole, Yellow-faced grassquit, Yellow-throated bunting.
Reptiles: Baslisk rattlesnake, Cotinga river toadhead turtle, Daan's hardim, Eastern shingleback, Gillen's pygmy mulga, Ornate spiny lizard, Thai bamboo ratsnake, Yellow-backed spiny lizard, Yellow-blotched map turtle, Yellow-headed gecko.
Amphibians: Peruvian marsupial frog, Riobamba marsupial frog.
Fish - 61 rarities.
In summary, 106 rarities, much more than I first thought. Of these, 12 are bolded and 6 are underlined.
Sydower Fließ - Banded palm civet, Egyptian mongoose, Honey badger, Rusty-spotted genet, White-bearded masked pal civet.
Only one installment remaining on Germany! Featured zoos are Wuppertal and Walsrode among others. Thanks for bearing with me over the past few weeks. Should have the final installment out within the next couple of weeks once exams are over and I can work properly on this and other things.
I just discovered this thread, and the idea is really interesting! Just wanted to add some info if someone is interested in visiting some of these, I don't know all, but for example in Rheinberg, the collection changes very often, so I wouldn't be sure about which species are actually there at the moment. Additionally, some species mentioned are not on public display, such as the red birds-of-paradise in Walsrode.
Again, I'm not sure if this is helpful, just don't want anyone to be disappointed.![]()
I explained a bit about this up thread but essentially there are a number of factors at play. When I make these lists I have to sift through hundreds, sometimes thousands of species. As I progress, I can now tell immediately whether a mammal or bird is a rarity or not, making the process a lot faster in that regard. I can also get a fair few of the herps as well. The problem with fish is fourfold:
I will however at least try to get these fish lists done for the collections in Germany that are owed them, whether by long hours of trawling or another method is yet to be seen. You query is fair and hopefully I have answered it satisfactorily
- The fish lists are much longer on average than any other class.
- I don’t really know anything about fish so can only really recognise a few rarities, unlike in the other classes.
- I don’t have the time or motivation. This whole process is massively time consuming. I can’t do everything perfectly, particularly if the framework I am largely working off (ZTL) is inaccurate for fish. Much as I find fish fascinating in their own way, the reality is that most zoochatters will be looking at mammals and birds, perhaps herps, to decide which zoo to visit. Only massive ‘landmark’ fish species like whale sharks or manta rays get much attention on the whole. So as you can imagine it isn’t terribly motivating to be sinking two thirds of one’s time into lists most people won’t even give a second glance.
- As I have posted above quite a few times, ZTL’s system is set up in such a way that a species not found in Germany has a star next to it. Previously, I have been using these stars as a reference point for my fish lists since it guarantees that I get all the unique species down. However, when I am going through German fish lists there are no stars of course so I can’t do the lists in that manner.
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Otocinclus vittatus - is found in only one European zoo but can be seen in virtually every aquarium shop in Europe.
As far as I know the fish that sells under the name of Otocinclus affinis is usually vittatus or the bastard of the two.I think you're mistaking with Otocinclus affinis. I never saw other Otocinclus than O. affinis in aquarium shops.
As far as I know the fish that sells under the name of Otocinclus affinis is usually vittatus or the bastard of the two.