Indonesian wildlife trade

Indonesia and Malaysia is a heaven for illegal bird hunters, and there is only a few birds that could be bred in scopes, such as the White-rumped shama, Great green leafbird, Straw-headed bulbul, Black-winged starling and the Bali myna. Most likely because many of those birds are endangered.

I hope we can breed more SE Asian birds in captivity and to make captive bred individuals maintain the market circulation.
 
Unenlagia90 said:
Indonesia and Malaysia is a heaven for illegal bird hunters, and there is only a few birds that could be bred in scopes, such as the White-rumped shama, Great green leafbird, Straw-headed bulbul, Black-winged starling and the Bali myna. Most likely because many of those birds are endangered.

I hope we can breed more SE Asian birds in captivity and to make captive bred individuals maintain the market circulation.
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Breeding in large numbers shama, bulbul, starling and myna would be possible, breeding leafbirds still is a rare event...
 
vogelcommando said:
Online trade in the Critically Endangered Silvery pigeon :

Online trade as a serious additional threat to the Critically Endangered silvery pigeon Columba argentina in Indonesia
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I wonder if there is an organized action to move Silvery pigeons and other such rare birds occasionally appearing on market into some experienced breeding facility and start regular breeding plans? There are several good bird breeding facilities in Indonesia and SE Asia.

Such occasionally caught (rescues and confiscated) birds and mammals in Europe became founders of several successful reintroduction programs.
 
The authority thwarted the smuggling of over 1.191 birds from Lampung to Jakarta, more precisely to the Pramuka Bird Market, one of the largest in Indonesia.

Native birds include 45 greater green leafbird, 15 lesser green leafbird, 68 Javan leafbird, 82 blue-masked leafbird, 6 white-rumped shama, 2 bulbul, 1 yellow-vented bulbul, 8 crested jay, 2 green magpie, 3 Sumatran laughingthursh, 28 oriole, 50 sunbird, 700 white-eye, 30 olive-winged bulbul, and 36 grey-cheeked bulbul

Non-native birds include 74 Alexandrine parakeet, 28 sun conure, 5 lovebirds, 2 grey parrots, and 2 parakeets. Other animals include 12 meerkats and 2 marmosets.

Penyelundup Gagal Kirim Seribuan Ekor Satwa ke Pasar Pramuka
 
vogelcommando said:
I guess he means that captive-bred birds can be offered in such amounts on the market that its not neccecery anymore to trap wild birds.
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I dunno about these birds' gestation period, but I think it's not even doable given the amounts of birds we see being confiscated: also bear in mind that we're not talking about people who have access to the many "luxuries" for animals of modern countries: we're talking about rusty claustrophobic cages with terrible hygienic conditions
 
Europe and North America had a very situation in the 20. century: massive keeping of native birds, which was threatening wild populations. For many poor people, a bird in a cage was a rare entertainment he could afford.

It was solved by the radical ban of keeping all native birds. Bird keeping community remains lively, and shifted to exotic singing canaries, small parakeets and estrildine finches which are easy to breed in cages in many varieties and races – actually domesticated. Bird keepers became bird breeders.

The biggest achievement was actually raiding bird markets and trade centers. This is the part of the bird trade chain which is most easy to control. Keeping native birds was never 100% eradicated, one still sometimes hears a native goldfinch or greenfinch from inside somebody's house, but it is sufficiently small not to depress wild populations.

Breeding native birds in cages cannot realistically solve the problem. Simply, it provokes massive catching of wild birds later sold as cage-bred ones, which are practically difficult to separate. And majority of attractive native birds are too sensitive to breed in cages on an industrial scale. That is why they should be replaced by easily bred exotic species like canaries, budgerigars etc.
 
Jurek7 said:
Europe and North America had a very situation in the 20. century: massive keeping of native birds, which was threatening wild populations. For many poor people, a bird in a cage was a rare entertainment he could afford.

It was solved by the radical ban of keeping all native birds. Bird keeping community remains lively, and shifted to exotic singing canaries, small parakeets and estrildine finches which are easy to breed in cages in many varieties and races – actually domesticated. Bird keepers became bird breeders.

The biggest achievement was actually raiding bird markets and trade centers. This is the part of the bird trade chain which is most easy to control. Keeping native birds was never 100% eradicated, one still sometimes hears a native goldfinch or greenfinch from inside somebody's house, but it is sufficiently small not to depress wild populations.

Breeding native birds in cages cannot realistically solve the problem. Simply, it provokes massive catching of wild birds later sold as cage-bred ones, which are practically difficult to separate. And majority of attractive native birds are too sensitive to breed in cages on an industrial scale. That is why they should be replaced by easily bred exotic species like canaries, budgerigars etc.
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If there were no laundering, and no restock from the wild without special reasons, then wildlife farming can be beneficial.
 
I have carefully read this entire thread and memories of my trip to Indonesia a few years ago come to mind. I was, among other places, in Jogjakarta, and visited its famous bird market. In fact, in it you can see all kinds of animals: I saw everything from monkeys to fish, going through all kinds of turtles, lizards, snakes, civets, dogs, cats, rodents... The number of birds was impressive, including birds of prey, although I did not see many parrots and that surprised me. There were plenty of songbirds and insectivores and large numbers of insects to feed them. What was clear is that the vast majority of the animals were indigenous and wild-caught, and I doubt this was legal. Some were in very poor condition. It is absolutely impossible for the authorities not to know about this place, and surely there are hundreds of the same or very similar markets. I think the authorities just don't do enough, because no one was hiding there...
 
A rather unique news.

BKSDA has thwarted the illegal transport of several live arthropods at the Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, which were destined to Saudi Arabia. The package doesn't have live animals export license, but was instead documented as children's toys. The arthropods were each stored in a plastic tubes, which were wrapped inside three different dolls.

These arthropods are 61 tarantulas, 5 centipedes, and 6 vinegaroons, which will be planned to be released back into the wild.

Puluhan Tarantula Ilegal Tujuan Arab Saudi Berhasil Digagalkan
 
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