Which is the better option?

I'm going to warn you that their spotted seals are not always out, and probably usually aren't at all. They rotate which pinnipeds are in the enclosure, but there isn't any sort of schedule.
Interesting, is there any way at all that i could find out perhaps?

Many thanks for all of the help and advice from everyone so far by the way, it is very helpful indeed:)
 
I'm going to warn you that their spotted seals are not always out, and probably usually aren't at all. They rotate which pinnipeds are in the enclosure, but there isn't any sort of schedule.
I thought the seals were mixed? I haven't been since 2020, but I know on that last visit I saw the spotteds, harbors and Northern furs all out together

As for Faces being the best South American exhibit, while I do like Faces of the Rainforest, and think it is a really good exhibit, I also think you need to visit more zoos because on any metric I can think of other South American exhibits that are better. At the very least, Buffalo Zoo's Rainforest Falls, which is in the same style as Faces, has a lot of aspects I would consider far superior to Roger Williams' exhibit (e.g., having a second floor viewing platform, inclusion of ocelots and vampire bats, more naturalistic primate enclosures, a larger anaconda exhibit), however RWPZ does have the benefit of giant otters, a few more unique birds (wood rails, piping guans, caciques), and free-ranging sloths and tamarins.
 
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Interesting, is there any way at all that i could find out perhaps?

Many thanks for all of the help and advice from everyone so far by the way, it is very helpful indeed:)

I thought the seals were mixed? I haven't been since 2020, but I know on that last visit I saw the spotteds, harbors and Northern furs all out together

As for Faces being the best South American exhibit, while I do like Faces of the Rainforest, and think it is a really good exhibit, I also think you need to visit more zoos because on any metric I can think of other South American exhibits that are better. At the very least, Buffalo Zoo's Rainforest Falls, which is in the same style as Faces, has a lot of aspects I would consider far superior to Roger Williams' exhibit (e.g., having a second floor viewing platform, inclusion of ocelots and vampire bats, more naturalistic primate enclosures, a larger anaconda exhibit), however RWPZ does have the benefit of giant otters, a few more unique birds (wood rails, piping guans, caciques), and free-ranging sloths and tamarins.
All I know is that the animals are now out in certain groups. For instance, four of the northern fur seals and the Pacific harbor seal (@Neil chace, I was incorrect in suggesting they might not have an animal from the Pacific) were in the exhibit when I was there in November. I know very little about their animals, but it might be because certain individuals don't get along with others (possibly like two of the fur seals not getting along with the Pacific harbor seal, or the spotted seals not getting along with some of the fur seals).
 
I'm going to warn you that their spotted seals are not always out, and probably usually aren't at all. They rotate which pinnipeds are in the enclosure, but there isn't any sort of schedule.



Do they not have two? When I was there they had access to both their public and off-exhibit spaces, and I had to pass through a few times before being successful seeing them.


Most people would probably say none of the exhibits are outstanding, although I would say Faces of the Rainforest is the single best South American exhibit in the United States of America (I'm sure everyone else would disagree). There aren't any other uncommonly held species though.


I would not recommend seeing visiting this facility and the Stone Zoo on the same day. Getting in and out of Boston can be very difficult and I don't think the zoo is open long enough for you to travel between the two of them.


I have heard terrible things about the Philadelphia subway system, although haven't used it myself.

At Mystic the spotted, harbor, and fur seals have free choice on where they want to go in the morning, either the show pool or the off-show one. I've never not seen at least one spotted, confirmed by asking the volunteers or a keeper.

Pittsburgh has 0.1 elephant seal. They had 1.1 for a few years, after Ellie Mae arrived in 2018 to join Coolio, but he died in 2019. Nessie arrived in early 2020. There's never been a death announcement for Ellie Mae, but USDA only shows one, and every time I've spoken to employees in the last couple of years they've said "seal", not "seals". She is rotated with 1.1 California sea lions, who have been in the pool on each of my visits. In person, all staff has been really rude to me when I've asked if she was going to be out at all. Only place I've encountered rude employees and it's happened repeatedly!

Calling it the best south american exhibit is absurd lol. Top 10, maybe? Especially if you exclude ones that don't have any walk-through areas.

I don't see why visiting both would be difficult? My visits were Independence Day weekend and I didn't have any problem getting between places. I did Stone first, then drove through the city to get to Franklin Park. I combined the aquarium with the museum of science, and had plenty of time left over (didn't do the dinos or non-animal areas of the museum beyond the body area, but did spend a lot of time in the taxidermy areas especially). Timing-wise Stone and the aquarium wouldn't have been an issue.

Name a subway system in the USA that you haven't heard bad things about, though ;)
 
At Mystic the spotted, harbor, and fur seals have free choice on where they want to go in the morning, either the show pool or the off-show one. I've never not seen at least one spotted, confirmed by asking the volunteers or a keeper.
That is no longer the case, at least for now. I was under that impression, but there was a keeper answering questions after finishing feeding the sea lions, whom I asked. I was directly told that they are being rotated.

Name a subway system in the USA that you haven't heard bad things about, though ;)
Most subway systems are terrible, but I've heard Philadelphia's is worse than average. I fully believe it, considering the city's reputation.

Calling it the best south american exhibit is absurd lol. Top 10, maybe? Especially if you exclude ones that don't have any walk-through areas.
There is absolutely no need for the mightier-than-thou attitude. I am entitled to my own opinion.

I don't see why visiting both would be difficult? My visits were Independence Day weekend and I didn't have any problem getting between places. I did Stone first, then drove through the city to get to Franklin Park. I combined the aquarium with the museum of science, and had plenty of time left over (didn't do the dinos or non-animal areas of the museum beyond the body area, but did spend a lot of time in the taxidermy areas especially). Timing-wise Stone and the aquarium wouldn't have been an issue.
You can see I was referring to the New England Aquarium, not the Franklin Park Zoo.
 
That is no longer the case, at least for now. I was under that impression, but there was a keeper answering questions after finishing feeding the sea lions, whom I asked. I was directly told that they are being rotated.


Most subway systems are terrible, but I've heard Philadelphia's is worse than average. I fully believe it, considering the city's reputation.


There is absolutely no need for the mightier-than-thou attitude. I am entitled to my own opinion.


You can see I was referring to the New England Aquarium, not the Franklin Park Zoo.


That's very recent, then! Interesting.

Philadelphia is a fantastic city. They protect their own and stand up for themselves, is all.

Lmao there was no attitude in what I said at all, but okay; as you initially said, no one would agree with you on it. You're entitled to your opinion but it's objectively wrong.

Re-read what I wrote.
 
That is no longer the case, at least for now. I was under that impression, but there was a keeper answering questions after finishing feeding the sea lions, whom I asked. I was directly told that they are being rotated.
How long ago did you visit? I was there two weeks ago and all three species were on exhibit.
 
An opinion cannot be wrong, even with the adverb, "objectively" (which I'm a bit confused about your usage of).


I'm glad to hear it! I was there seven or eight weeks ago, I think.

An opinion most certainly can be wrong. Plenty of people have opinions that differ from facts - look at politics, healthcare, and everywhere else. Objectively meaning "in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions". In terms of size, species, immersiveness, and other ways of measuring, especially when all combined.
 
An opinion most certainly can be wrong. Plenty of people have opinions that differ from facts - look at politics, healthcare, and everywhere else. Objectively meaning "in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions". In terms of size, species, immersiveness, and other ways of measuring, especially when all combined.
This is true, but how exactly can one’s opinion on what the best South American-Themed Zoo exhibit be objectively wrong when you don’t know what metric the person is using? Size, immersiveness, and species may not be what @wild boar is judging exhibits upon, and it is a bit close-minded to assume so. To say someone is objectively wrong for thinking Faces of the Rainforest (which seems to be a perfectly good exhibit from photos) is the best South American exhibit is, frankly, a little silly, especially when you don't know exactly why they think this way.
 
This is true, but how exactly can one’s opinion on what the best South American-Themed Zoo exhibit be objectively wrong when you don’t know what metric the person is using? Size, immersiveness, and species may not be what @wild boar is judging exhibits upon, and it is a bit close-minded to assume so. To say someone is objectively wrong for thinking Faces of the Rainforest (which seems to be a perfectly good exhibit from photos) is the best South American exhibit is, frankly, a little silly, especially when you don't know exactly why they think this way.

What other metrics would you use to judge an area-themed exhibit, much less one where Faces of the Rainforest would be the best? Even he said "I'm sure everyone else would disagree". It is a perfectly good exhibit, yes, but it's certainly not the best.

This entire derail is rather pointless, anyway, since the OP hasn't even said they're going to Roger Williams.
 
Interesting, is there any way at all that i could find out perhaps?

Many thanks for all of the help and advice from everyone so far by the way, it is very helpful indeed:)

As spotted seals seem to have some interest beyond Pangolin12 this info is from the curator at Mystic, received this morning.
"I can tell you that our two spotted seals are both currently on exhibit in the Pacific Northwest habitat. They shift off on occasion but I don’t think there is anything planned in the coming weeks. The exhibit interpreter can help identify the spotted seals since they look very much like harbor seals".
 
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