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Does the park get really that crowded? I already visited in August and September during weekends and weekdays and it always looked very quiet to me.

They implemented the same system for both Zoo/Aquarium Berlin and Tierpark Berlin. So it would be far more relevant for the zoo.

However, I do feel the Tierpark can get quite crowded as well: On some days, you'll have to wait really long for a tierpark ticket or for food in the restaurants and you probably won't get a seat on the park train. Also, you may have to be quite patient at exhibits which are very popular and/or where they limited the viewing area. There actually have been days, when I didn't enjoy the park as much because of this (but tbh I'm quite spoiled - to me the generous space is some of the magic of this place and I really love it when there is hardly anyone else in there, even though this may come with windy and rainy weather etc which I normally don't enjoy during my visits).
 
Berlin Tierpark sending four Przewalski horses to Kazakhstan:

2024 - eight Przewalski horses to be reintroduced to Kazakhstan by Prague and Berlin zoos


On June 3, two planes will take off, one from Prague and the other from Berlin, to take the horses to Arkalyk with stopovers in Istanbul and Baku”, Prague Zoo director Miroslav Bobek told the press.

The horses, three stallions and five mares, will be transported by Czech army planes, with the two zoos sending four horses each.
 
Some updates:

- The former enclosure of the snow leopards seems to be (almost) finished now. But so far there hasn't been official information about the new residents.

- The former wildebeest enclosure also is being remodelled. The design led to some interesting speculation in a German zoo forum, but I don't want to spoil the fun. So I just give the links to two pictures:
143446.jpg (767×600) (schueling.com)
143452.jpg (800×391) (schueling.com)
So what do you think? Any ideas?

- The Asia enclosure also is pretty much finished. Apparently, the monkeys and babirusas already get to explore their new home. So far, I haven't heard anything about the small clawed otters apart from their arrival.
 
Some updates:

- The former enclosure of the snow leopards seems to be (almost) finished now. But so far there hasn't been official information about the new residents.

- The former wildebeest enclosure also is being remodelled. The design led to some interesting speculation in a German zoo forum, but I don't want to spoil the fun. So I just give the links to two pictures:
143446.jpg (767×600) (schueling.com)
143452.jpg (800×391) (schueling.com)
So what do you think? Any ideas?

- The Asia enclosure also is pretty much finished. Apparently, the monkeys and babirusas already get to explore their new home. So far, I haven't heard anything about the small clawed otters apart from their arrival.

Getting a slightly piggy vibe from the second picture but the feeder in the first is maybe too high?
 
Getting a slightly piggy vibe from the second picture but the feeder in the first is maybe too high?

I also think the feeder would be too high for pigs. The photographer of the pictures described the muddy-looking areas in picture two as some kind of rain forest ground. So the animals wouldn't necessarily dig it up (I'm not sure, if this species does dig in the ground - however, nobody knows if this speculation is correct anyways).
 
I also think the feeder would be too high for pigs. The photographer of the pictures described the muddy-looking areas in picture two as some kind of rain forest ground. So the animals wouldn't necessarily dig it up (I'm not sure, if this species does dig in the ground - however, nobody knows if this speculation is correct anyways).
Would be very exciting if the rumours are true..
 
I've seen Sumatran rhino at 3 zoos and Jentinck's duiker at Berlin Tierpark

Wow, the duikers were kept in the Tierpark before the wall came down!

But I'm sorry, if my post set expectations that high :D

For me, Okapis are still quite spectacular. I would love to have them in the Tierpark for some time or even for good (if they possibly expand and/or split up the Berlin population). So I hope the speculation may actually be correct. It could well add up with the design of the exhibit, the need for renovation at Berlin Zoo and only recently I also noticed a second educational element about okapis at the Brehm building in addition to the information at the new giraffe trail (it may have been there before, and they also have information on other species not in the collection but the latter isn't that common).

P.S.: I just cant wait to find out what they will put in the empty exhibits. Unfortunately, they don't seem to like putting up signs informing people in advance and thus helping to moderate expectations/ anticipation. It's a bit like parents hiding Christmas presents.
 
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I would not hold my breath for okapis for two reasons:

1) I could see the city zoos wanting to keep them as the “zoo exclusive” rather than having both parks keep them.

2) the addition of the okapis would have been previously hyped by the PR of the TierPark. I admit that I don’t know whether they are included in the masterplan or not but if they are not planned previously then I don’t see them being quietly added to the TP.

I personally believe the new enclosure will be holding sitatunga or nyala if TP isn’t holding them already.
 
I would not hold my breath for okapis for two reasons:

1) I could see the city zoos wanting to keep them as the “zoo exclusive” rather than having both parks keep them.

2) the addition of the okapis would have been previously hyped by the PR of the TierPark. I admit that I don’t know whether they are included in the masterplan or not but if they are not planned previously then I don’t see them being quietly added to the TP.

I personally believe the new enclosure will be holding sitatunga or nyala if TP isn’t holding them already.

You may well be right. And I would like either one of the species you mention as an addition as well.

The okapis could also be a temporary thing, though. The Tierpark has much more space than the zoo and why not show the okapis in a proper enclosure, while they work on their enclosure in the zoo?

And to the possibility of a permanent expansion to the Tierpark:
Normally, I also don't believe the zoo would easily give up on a popular exclusive species (whereas it has been practiced often enough the other way around, but that's how the pecking order in Berlin works - so it would also make some sense if the Tierpark promotes a species/project of the zoo).
But they could get/ just have gotten more ambitious about their population, potential breeding etc (as happened with other species like gerenuks, red pandas etc which then additionally got send to Berlin Zoo as well). The Tierpark just has the space and they have been breeding a lot of delicate animals.
 
Does the exhibit would be a good fit to house the group of gerenuk?
Spatially, it would make sense to bring them side to side with other ungulates from East-Africa.
That would not rule out okapis coming to TP as it would free up one enclosure. Still I would find such a barren enclosure to be a pity for okapi when Tierpark have so much wooded area.
 
I would not hold my breath for okapis for two reasons:

1) I could see the city zoos wanting to keep them as the “zoo exclusive” rather than having both parks keep them.

2) the addition of the okapis would have been previously hyped by the PR of the TierPark. I admit that I don’t know whether they are included in the masterplan or not but if they are not planned previously then I don’t see them being quietly added to the TP.

I personally believe the new enclosure will be holding sitatunga or nyala if TP isn’t holding them already.
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the relationship between Tierpark Berlin and Zoo Berlin? Are they part of one zoological society (such as ZSL or KMDA), both owned by the city itself, or mostly unrelated? I know that they are not of a common origin with the Tierpark having been founded on the opposite side of the Wall, but from the similarity of their logos, websites etc I have always suspected some sort of close link, but couldn't find any information on it online.
 
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the relationship between Tierpark Berlin and Zoo Berlin? Are they part of one zoological society (such as ZSL or KMDA), both owned by the city itself, or mostly unrelated? I know that they are not of a common origin with the Tierpark having been founded on the opposite side of the Wall, but from the similarity of their logos, websites etc I have always suspected some sort of close link, but couldn't find any information on it online.

They used to be rivals with the Zoo always being a private institution (with stocks traded at the stock exchange, although it is more about control than profit as the zoo always was a non-profit organization) and the Tierpark founded and owned by the GDR government. After the wall came down, the Tierpark was integrated into the Zoo and they started to take out what they wanted to have and often couldn't get that easily for political or other reasons before (e.g. snakes for the Aquarium). They also decided the Tierpark didn't need any new modern enclosures for their apes and would give them up, whereas the Zoo kept all of their 4 species, similar for the pinnipeds and so on. While they started to develop different approaches and collections the tough decisions (one collection had to give up a popular species) as well as the generous ones (one collection was allowed to also keep a popular species even though it meant less exclusive species to attract visitors to both places) virtually always ended up favouring the Zoo over the Tierpark.

As an example, when the new director Mr. Knieriem took over, he suggested the Zoo may give up ONE of their FOUR ape species so it could be relocated to the Tierpark and the Zoo could give better conditions to the remaining THREE (it could even have been chimpanzees or bonobos, so many visitors wouldn't even notice a loss). Rumours say he got really agitated calls or visits by wealthy zoo donors who wouldn't have any of it. Officially they found a way around: When the Tierpark later published their "Master-/ Ziel und Entwicklungs-Plan" they announced planning with the orang sub-species the Zoo doesn't keep. Even this small solution has not been mentioned along their latest updates on their plans.
Another example: When the Zoo got their Giant Pandas, Knieriem suggested offspring could be kept in the Tierpark once it grew enough but didn't need to be sent back. He also mentioned, the Tierpark could get Koalas instead. After all, the Tierpark had been the place which really needed more visitors, whereas the zoo often was really crowded. But neither idea was ever as much as mentioned again, not even when the zoo indeed had panda cubs.
The only exception I can think of are the polar bears. But the zoo never ever announced their plans, even though they had communicated they wanted to make a definitive decision about whether or nor they wanted to return some to the zoo.
I also heard about complaints why Tierpark stuff earned similar wages, when the zoo brought in much more money from tickets, donations etc. (while the Tierpark in fact never even received any money out of the zoo's funds or revenue, they got their funds for running costs from the Berlin senate which in turn tried to influence the fate of the park without ever giving them needed funds for new investments).

All of this only changed somewhat, when the new administration managed to secure funds for strategic investments in the Tierpark and immediately started getting far more visitors and own revenue. Visitor numbers increased by about 80 percent (up to 1,8 mio in 2023) and the percentage of public funds of the total revenue dropped by double digits. Only time can tell, if they can keep up the positive momentum.

Personally, I believe the Tierpark has long-term potential for 1,5 - 2 mio visitors, if they were to get their elephants, rhinos and lions back (all of this is planned) as well as at least one ape species (preferably an exclusive one but even if they could get as much as an additional subspecies) and one type of seal in attractive exhibits. But even without any of that, they managed to get on a track of success silencing most of the contemptuous remarks for now.
 
They used to be rivals with the Zoo always being a private institution (with stocks traded at the stock exchange, although it is more about control than profit as the zoo always was a non-profit organization) and the Tierpark founded and owned by the GDR government. After the wall came down, the Tierpark was integrated into the Zoo and they started to take out what they wanted to have and often couldn't get that easily for political or other reasons before (e.g. snakes for the Aquarium). They also decided the Tierpark didn't need any new modern enclosures for their apes and would give them up, whereas the Zoo kept all of their 4 species, similar for the pinnipeds and so on. While they started to develop different approaches and collections the tough decisions (one collection had to give up a popular species) as well as the generous ones (one collection was allowed to also keep a popular species even though it meant less exclusive species to attract visitors to both places) virtually always ended up favouring the Zoo over the Tierpark.

As an example, when the new director Mr. Knieriem took over, he suggested the Zoo may give up ONE of their FOUR ape species so it could be relocated to the Tierpark and the Zoo could give better conditions to the remaining THREE (it could even have been chimpanzees or bonobos, so many visitors wouldn't even notice a loss). Rumours say he got really agitated calls or visits by wealthy zoo donors who wouldn't have any of it. Officially they found a way around: When the Tierpark later published their "Master-/ Ziel und Entwicklungs-Plan" they announced planning with the orang sub-species the Zoo doesn't keep. Even this small solution has not been mentioned along their latest updates on their plans.
Another example: When the Zoo got their Giant Pandas, Knieriem suggested offspring could be kept in the Tierpark once it grew enough but didn't need to be sent back. He also mentioned, the Tierpark could get Koalas instead. After all, the Tierpark had been the place which really needed more visitors, whereas the zoo often was really crowded. But neither idea was ever as much as mentioned again, not even when the zoo indeed had panda cubs.
The only exception I can think of are the polar bears. But the zoo never ever announced their plans, even though they had communicated they wanted to make a definitive decision about whether or nor they wanted to return some to the zoo.
I also heard about complaints why Tierpark stuff earned similar wages, when the zoo brought in much more money from tickets, donations etc. (while the Tierpark in fact never even received any money out of the zoo's funds or revenue, they got their funds for running costs from the Berlin senate which in turn tried to influence the fate of the park without ever giving them needed funds for new investments).

All of this only changed somewhat, when the new administration managed to secure funds for strategic investments in the Tierpark and immediately started getting far more visitors and own revenue. Visitor numbers increased by about 80 percent (up to 1,8 mio in 2023) and the percentage of public funds of the total revenue dropped by double digits. Only time can tell, if they can keep up the positive momentum.

Personally, I believe the Tierpark has long-term potential for 1,5 - 2 mio visitors, if they were to get their elephants, rhinos and lions back (all of this is planned) as well as at least one ape species (preferably an exclusive one but even if they could get as much as an additional subspecies) and one type of seal in attractive exhibits. But even without any of that, they managed to get on a track of success silencing most of the contemptuous remarks for now.
Thank you for that very informative and enjoyable post - answered all of my questions and more. Perhaps a good solution would be for Tierpark to bring back manatees, which if advertised well could be a very good marketing tool indeed, although I may be overestimating their popularity among visitors due to my personal love for the species. Hopefully there is a bright future for both Berlin collections!
 
Thank you for that very informative and enjoyable post - answered all of my questions and more. Perhaps a good solution would be for Tierpark to bring back manatees, which if advertised well could be a very good marketing tool indeed, although I may be overestimating their popularity among visitors due to my personal love for the species. Hopefully there is a bright future for both Berlin collections!

Manatees, as part of the Amazon river building, just like the orangs (or the koalas) haven't been mentioned in any of their latest updates. We can be positively sure about the elephants and pretty sure about the lions, while there have been different information about the rhinos (in short: I'm not sure, if there will be living rhinos in public exhibits). They also did mention (or rather confirm) their plans for a very large bird aviary, the part of the North America zone which includes additional space for the polar bears and some kind of pinniped-species as well as an area for farm animals. If it was up to me they would stick to their polar bear/seal plans, go for somewhat smaller (still generous) and far cheaper bird aviaries and rather make the orangs and South American animals (possibly also Australien ones, although I wouldn't need koalas) a priority again. The area(s) with their farm animals could isn't/ aren't so bad.

But generally speaking, they have a done a really good job so far. This includes finding a strategy which makes the Tierpark far more attractive without compromising any of the zoo's strategic strengths and irritating donors, picking the right priorities (bad exhibits, important species) as well as implementing their plans, securing funding and gaining public recognition. So it seems like they know what they are doing. Interestingly, Mr Knieriem not only is a zoo and animal enthusiast from young age and a vet, but he also studied communication and apparently he also learns from mistakes quite quickly - which seems to come in handy. So I even could imagine he will use projects like the elephant complex in the Tierpark to get donations for the elephant complex and other projects in the zoo. This strategy wouldn't even be new by the way. As I mentioned, Tierpark and Zoo used to be rivals or rather prestigious representatives of rivaling systems. And the respective zoo administrations liked to play this card: "Look what they've got now! Shouldn't we also have something like that or possibly even better?" Some insiders say, the zoo directors actually didn't mind this situation at all and secretly even had some respect and sympathy for the work of their respective counterpart.
 
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