Planning a Tentative European Zoo Trip - Fall 2024/Spring 2025

That extra day will be used for a closer day trip, a stop in the Bohemian Switzerland National Park on our way from Prague to Dresden for a bit of the great outdoors currently absent from this trip's itinerary, or just an extra day to tack on to another city, all depending on weather and how we feel at the time.

Having just spent four days over there, Bohemian Switzerland would be a very good call - it’s a very pleasant place and has some of Europe’s most dramatic rock formations. If you want any tips on where to visit on that one day, do ask - there’s a few recent closures that aren’t terribly well advertised online :).
 
Although the unreliability of DB is an extremely commonplace stereotype, I've never really had problems with the trains in Germany - certainly, Deutsche Bahn is more reliable than any of the trains here in the UK. The only *major* rail problem I have experienced on my travels was actually an OBB train in Austria, a few months ago :p
For some reason my notifications broke - so apologies for replying to a 2 week old comment. DB has previously been fine for me, but during my June trip it was genuinely terrible. Every train was at least 90 minutes late, but I admit the worst offender was the cross-continental service to Wien which never actually turned up.

We will have to see :p I am inclined to agree with @lintworm and expect that we might be rather too exhausted to try and squeeze in anything beyond dinner and a light stroll before going to bed :D
I agree that HdM is probably a tad too tiring for your first evening, and once you equate for leaving the airport and travel you'll be very limited time wise. I'd advise spending a quiet evening watching the hamsters in Miedling cemetery, which is usually very quiet and will guarantee you to see some.
 
Schönbrunn has a good route to follow. Don't miss: Birdhouse, Polarium, Regenwald, Indian rhino exhibit, giraffebuilding, Kaiserspavillion and surroundings, Tree-top trail, Monkeyhouse, South America Park. Giant panda and koala if you like.

Haus des Meeres : I recomment going to the top floor (+11) first, enjoying the views of Vienna, then gradually descending. Don't miss: top floor Vienna view, Amazon rainforest, African rainforest

Frankfurt Zoo map is arranged by numbers. But the Grzimeck House doesn't open until 10 a.m.. You probably have the best chance of seeing the yellow-backed duiker early in the morning, when there are few visitors in that section. And on arrival, you could visit the South American zone Ukumari land later, when the bulk of visitors are elsewhere in the zoo. The upperfloor of the Exotarium can be extremely hot in the afternoon in case of very hot weather. Don't miss: Cat house, Grzimeck House, Ape House, Birdhouse, Exotarium

Karlsruhe : the zoo is part of a large park but all interesting animals/buildings are in the northeast corner of the park. Don't miss the tropical rainforest at the back of the zoo.

Wilhelma also has a map with a route. I last year did a full tour in 5hr30. Saw everything and took my time in the Small Mammal House, Amazonia and the Vogelfreifluganlage. But since then Australia opened and I didn't took enough time for the large aquarium-reptile complex. Do not forget the historical buildings & gardens, the belvedere viewing point, insect house, Sudtropenterrassen, the Ape House and the upper part of the Maurisches Landhaus.

Both Berlin's: be there at opening time. Take a coffee, study the zoo map and puzzle your route.
Berlin Zoo: aquarium, reptilehouse, birdhouse, pheasantry, antilope house, eagle canyon, penguin, hippodom and rhino pagode.
Berlin Tierpark: Himalaya, bears, Brehmehaus, pheasantry, birds of prey, monkeyhouse

Leipzig Zoo also has a map with a suggested route. There isn't that much not worth seeing here.

Dresden, again a good map. Don't miss: Orang-utan Hause, Tundra and vulture aviary, Prof. Brandes-Haus, european songbird aviaries, Zoo under der Erde, mountain ungulates

Nurnberg, again a good map with guided tour. Don't miss: Carnivore house, harpey, Manatihaus, Blue lagoon, dolphin lagun, Wustenhaus, Takin valley, polar bear.

Prague: it's been ages since my last visit, but other zoo chatters certainly can advice you.
 
But since then Australia opened

I wish I could advocate for this building, with it housing the objectively coolest animal on Earth Americans don’t have the privilege to see in the comfort of their homeland, but it is tough because when I went to Wilhelma I had to delay my visit to the building at least three times because of how there was a ridiculously long line by the entrance of the building was. The visitor area of the building is quite narrow and the nocturnal area doesn’t help either. One needs a long time for their eyes to get adjusted before they can even enjoy the whimsical critters and the zoo doesn’t use red lights either. I found myself bumping into a handful of other guests in the very dark hallways before my eyes got used to the darkness. Of course the building being hard to appreciate doesn’t mean it can’t be appreciated at all, and I hope Kudu dies have a good time seeing the possums in his visit.
 
Schönbrunn has a good route to follow. Don't miss: Birdhouse, Polarium, Regenwald, Indian rhino exhibit, giraffebuilding, Kaiserspavillion and surroundings, Tree-top trail, Monkeyhouse, South America Park. Giant panda and koala if you like.

The Tropical house is closed until 2025. Especially for someone, who's not from Europe i would also add the Tirolerhof to the list. Another interesting building is the dessert house, which is located outside of the zoo itself, next to the main entrance (Hitzing). It is the counter part to the already mentioned tropical house.

Haus des Meeres. I wouldn't take the elevator. Eleven floors sounds much, but you will stop at every floor to see some animals, so it is not exhausting at all. The tropical house is located at the floors 2, 3 and 4, but you can only enter/exit at floor 2 and 4 so be careful not to miss the third floor with the tropical saltwater fish. Trough the Kroki Park (floor 2) you have access to a new area at the floors 1, 2 and 3 which are only reachable trough the Kroki Park at floor 2. They house some really nice herps there.
 
Having just spent four days over there, Bohemian Switzerland would be a very good call - it’s a very pleasant place and has some of Europe’s most dramatic rock formations. If you want any tips on where to visit on that one day, do ask - there’s a few recent closures that aren’t terribly well advertised online :).
I was just reading your "Summer Travels" thread the other day and saw that you had done so! I would take any advice you are willing and able to give on the area :) We have just begun looking into it as an option, as it was not initially on our radar.

For some reason my notifications broke - so apologies for replying to a 2 week old comment. DB has previously been fine for me, but during my June trip it was genuinely terrible. Every train was at least 90 minutes late, but I admit the worst offender was the cross-continental service to Wien which never actually turned up.
Well, I guess we will just have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, when it comes to the DB :P It will certainly be an adventure, nonetheless :D

I agree that HdM is probably a tad too tiring for your first evening, and once you equate for leaving the airport and travel you'll be very limited time wise. I'd advise spending a quiet evening watching the hamsters in Miedling cemetery, which is usually very quiet and will guarantee you to see some.
That is what I expected. I think it would be a little too rushed and a little too tiresome to be enjoyable at that point. I do have hamster watching in the Miedling Cemetery penciled in for that evening, if we feel up for it.

Schönbrunn has a good route to follow. Don't miss: Birdhouse, Polarium, Regenwald, Indian rhino exhibit, giraffebuilding, Kaiserspavillion and surroundings, Tree-top trail, Monkeyhouse, South America Park. Giant panda and koala if you like.

Leipzig Zoo also has a map with a suggested route. There isn't that much not worth seeing here.

Dresden, again a good map. Don't miss: Orang-utan Hause, Tundra and vulture aviary, Prof. Brandes-Haus, european songbird aviaries, Zoo under der Erde, mountain ungulates

Nurnberg, again a good map with guided tour. Don't miss: Carnivore house, harpey, Manatihaus, Blue lagoon, dolphin lagun, Wustenhaus, Takin valley, polar bear.
It is good to know that the suggested routes on these maps are still recommendable by those that have visited. I have visited some facilities in the past with recommended routes that did not end up being the best way to go about seeing everything in the end.

Haus des Meeres : I recomment going to the top floor (+11) first, enjoying the views of Vienna, then gradually descending. Don't miss: top floor Vienna view, Amazon rainforest, African rainforest
I was debating which order to do this facility in. Has anyone eaten or gotten drinks at the restaurant here? I was thinking we would start at the top for breakfast if we go in the morning or end at the top for dinner and drinks if we go in the evening.

Frankfurt Zoo map is arranged by numbers. But the Grzimeck House doesn't open until 10 a.m.. You probably have the best chance of seeing the yellow-backed duiker early in the morning, when there are few visitors in that section. And on arrival, you could visit the South American zone Ukumari land later, when the bulk of visitors are elsewhere in the zoo. The upperfloor of the Exotarium can be extremely hot in the afternoon in case of very hot weather. Don't miss: Cat house, Grzimeck House, Ape House, Birdhouse, Exotarium
I definitely remember reading about the delayed openings of the Grzimeck House and Exotarium :P Thank you for the suggestions on where else to go when.

Both Berlin's: be there at opening time. Take a coffee, study the zoo map and puzzle your route.
Berlin Zoo: aquarium, reptilehouse, birdhouse, pheasantry, antilope house, eagle canyon, penguin, hippodom and rhino pagode.
Berlin Tierpark: Himalaya, bears, Brehmehaus, pheasantry, birds of prey, monkeyhouse
I knew that the Berlins would be the biggest undertakings, and their maps appear rather... simplistic. Is there a best entrance to start at for either park? Should we start with the Aquarium at the Zoo or save it for later?

Wilhelma also has a map with a route. I last year did a full tour in 5hr30. Saw everything and took my time in the Small Mammal House, Amazonia and the Vogelfreifluganlage. But since then Australia opened and I didn't took enough time for the large aquarium-reptile complex. Do not forget the historical buildings & gardens, the belvedere viewing point, insect house, Sudtropenterrassen, the Ape House and the upper part of the Maurisches Landhaus.
I wish I could advocate for this building, with it housing the objectively coolest animal on Earth Americans don’t have the privilege to see in the comfort of their homeland, but it is tough because when I went to Wilhelma I had to delay my visit to the building at least three times because of how there was a ridiculously long line by the entrance of the building was. The visitor area of the building is quite narrow and the nocturnal area doesn’t help either. One needs a long time for their eyes to get adjusted before they can even enjoy the whimsical critters and the zoo doesn’t use red lights either. I found myself bumping into a handful of other guests in the very dark hallways before my eyes got used to the darkness. Of course the building being hard to appreciate doesn’t mean it can’t be appreciated at all, and I hope Kudu dies have a good time seeing the possums in his visit.
Thank you both! Wilhelma certainly seems to be a much bigger undertaking than immediately meets the eye, but I am very much looking forward to it! I very much appreciate the heads up in regards to Terra Australis. This will definitely be something to keep in mind and plan for. I am hoping that by visiting on a week day in September the crowds will not be too bad...

The Tropical house is closed until 2025. Especially for someone, who's not from Europe i would also add the Tirolerhof to the list. Another interesting building is the dessert house, which is located outside of the zoo itself, next to the main entrance (Hitzing). It is the counter part to the already mentioned tropical house.

Haus des Meeres. I wouldn't take the elevator. Eleven floors sounds much, but you will stop at every floor to see some animals, so it is not exhausting at all. The tropical house is located at the floors 2, 3 and 4, but you can only enter/exit at floor 2 and 4 so be careful not to miss the third floor with the tropical saltwater fish. Trough the Kroki Park (floor 2) you have access to a new area at the floors 1, 2 and 3 which are only reachable trough the Kroki Park at floor 2. They house some really nice herps there.
Thank you very much for this! I had noted the closure of the ground floor of the Tropical House at Schönbrunn, and we will definitely be visiting the Desert and Palm Houses, as well.

I especially appreciate the tips for the different floors of Haus des Meeres and how not to miss them. Thank you!
 
I was debating which order to do this facility in. Has anyone eaten or gotten drinks at the restaurant here? I was thinking we would start at the top for breakfast if we go in the morning or end at the top for dinner and drinks if we go in the evening.
I had lunch there before getting the lift to the bottom floor and climbing the stairs back up. The food is very good and priced reasonably for such a place and the view is incredible. I think either of your plans would work perfectly.

I knew that the Berlins would be the biggest undertakings, and their maps appear rather... simplistic. Is there a best entrance to start at for either park? Should we start with the Aquarium at the Zoo or save it for later?
I've done aquarium first and last, and found it's much quieter in the morning. I'd advise therefore getting to the aquarium for opening, letting you leave through the iguanodon doors and starting on the elephant-gate side of the zoo - my personal favourite place to start. I'll try and do a full write-up on my advice for the Berlin collections as they are by far the zoos I am best acquainted with, but regardless I'd start elephant gate at the zoo and the 'main', right-hand entrance at the Tierpark.

RE the Schönbrunn desert/palm houses - I'd combine these with Haus des Meeres in one day as they can easily be done in 90 mins or so while giving you time to explore the gorgeous palace estate.
 
It is good to know that the suggested routes on these maps are still recommendable by those that have visited. I have visited some facilities in the past with recommended routes that did not end up being the best way to go about seeing everything in the end.

Germany is in almost every way a very customer friendly country, and zoo maps/tours are no exception.

I was debating which order to do this facility in. Has anyone eaten or gotten drinks at the restaurant here? I was thinking we would start at the top for breakfast if we go in the morning or end at the top for dinner and drinks if we go in the evening.

I would rather have breakfast and go to a nice restaurant in town in the evening. The restaurant/bar on the top floor looked pretty good (and expensive); the café is nothing special (I had a coffee there). My advice would be, take the lift to the roof and go down the stairs floor by floor: that way you won't miss anything.

I knew that the Berlins would be the biggest undertakings, and their maps appear rather... simplistic. Is there a best entrance to start at for either park? Should we start with the Aquarium at the Zoo or save it for later?

That is a difficult question. But it is the buildings that take the most time.
Tierpark will not be a problem, apart from the Alfred Brehmehaus, there are no buildings with large collections. The distances are long but doable in a day. Apart from the ABH, you will lose the most time in the pheasantry, parrots and birds of prey section. Almost everything else is in the open air and requires only good shoes. Don't miss Himalaya, Monkeyhouse, African savannah and in the ABH asian golden cats and the Javan leopards, and nearby the Arabian striped hyena.

Berlin Zoo is something else. The collections in the aquarium and reptile house, the pheasantry and the bird house are huge. Also the Monkey House and Empire of the Cats/Creatures of the night are large. Don't miss further the Antelopehaus, Eagle canyon, the Rhino pagode and Hippo bay. If you really want to see every species in the aquarium/reptilehouse... that will take you a couple of hours. Depending on your interests, there're good collections of wild cattle, antelopes, zebra, penguin...
Don't miss the narrow-striped boky (Empire of the cats).
Get there on time in the morning and see how it goes. Keep an eye on the clock in the aquarium and reptile house



I especially appreciate the tips for the different floors of Haus des Meeres and how not to miss them. Thank you!

There's also a rather cramped section with venomous reptiles. Don't miss the Spix saddle-back tamarin in the South American rainforest and these little guys in the Congo aquarium hall:

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I knew that the Berlins would be the biggest undertakings, and their maps appear rather... simplistic.

Yes, the current maps for Tierpark Berlin and Zoo Berlin are rather simplified and don't reflect the paths particularly well - the maps present within the guidebooks (up until they were discontinued by the current director in 2014) were significantly more helpful.

Obviously, several changes have been made since these maps were originally produced, with some paths and exhibits removed entirely, and many others containing completely different species, but they will still be of assistance when consulted alongside the modern-day maps:

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When I have a chance I'll produce edited versions of these scans (which have been taken from my personal copies of the respective guidebooks) to highlight the major differences, and to highlight a rough suggested route based on my own experiences.

I've done aquarium first and last, and found it's much quieter in the morning. I'd advise therefore getting to the aquarium for opening, letting you leave through the iguanodon doors and starting on the elephant-gate side of the zoo - my personal favourite place to start. I'll try and do a full write-up on my advice for the Berlin collections as they are by far the zoos I am best acquainted with, but regardless I'd start elephant gate at the zoo and the 'main', right-hand entrance at the Tierpark.

An important note on this point - currently, the ongoing construction work within the aquarium which has rendered the third floor containing the amphibian and invertebrate collection inaccessible also means that there is no through-route between the aquarium and the zoo itself. As such the aquarium can only be entered and exited via the main entrance on Budapester Straße, and Kudu will therefore have to leave the aquarium entirely and enter the zoo through the main gates.
 

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I've done aquarium first and last, and found it's much quieter in the morning. I'd advise therefore getting to the aquarium for opening, letting you leave through the iguanodon doors and starting on the elephant-gate side of the zoo - my personal favourite place to start. I'll try and do a full write-up on my advice for the Berlin collections as they are by far the zoos I am best acquainted with, but regardless I'd start elephant gate at the zoo and the 'main', right-hand entrance at the Tierpark
FYI, when I visited in June, the Iguanodon doors between the Aquarium and the Zoo itself were closed, so you would need to exit the Aquarium through the entrance in order to get to the zoo. IMO the elephant gate is the best entrance to start.
 
Thank you very much for this! I had noted the closure of the ground floor of the Tropical House at Schönbrunn, and we will definitely be visiting the Desert and Palm Houses, as well.

I especially appreciate the tips for the different floors of Haus des Meeres and how not to miss them. Thank you!

At Schönbrunn the upper floor of the tropical house is closed too since a few days.

If you search for something specific at Vienna zoos, feel free to ask!

There's also a rather cramped section with venomous reptiles.

Currently closed.

As nobody has posted something to Prague i start with it. Unless you want to see the pangolins with light at the indonesian jungle, i would suggest to start with the lower part of the zoo, as it has imo more unique stuff to offer. I would start the route at the water world with the gharial house and then Sichuan house - Giant salamder house - wetland aviaries - mountain ungulates - Rakos pavillion and then discover the upper part of the zoo.
 
I had lunch there before getting the lift to the bottom floor and climbing the stairs back up. The food is very good and priced reasonably for such a place and the view is incredible. I think either of your plans would work perfectly.
I would rather have breakfast and go to a nice restaurant in town in the evening. The restaurant/bar on the top floor looked pretty good (and expensive); the café is nothing special (I had a coffee there). My advice would be, take the lift to the roof and go down the stairs floor by floor: that way you won't miss anything.
Thank you both! I'm glad to see it really works fine either way. I am also happy to hear that the food at the restaurant is actually good, as the menu sounds quite nice and it just looks like a nice addition to the experience.

There's also a rather cramped section with venomous reptiles. Don't miss the Spix saddle-back tamarin in the South American rainforest and these little guys in the Congo aquarium hall:

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It is a shame that it appears the venomous snake hall is also currently closed, according to @remar. I took note of the Spix's saddle-back tamarins from my look through the ZTL listing for Haus des Meeres. While I am not the biggest fan of primates, in general, I have a soft spot for Callitrichids (and Prosimians), and these will be a new and visually appealing species for me! It will also be a delight to hopefully see a Senegal bushbaby again, as it has been nearly two decades since I have last seen one!

RE the Schönbrunn desert/palm houses - I'd combine these with Haus des Meeres in one day as they can easily be done in 90 mins or so while giving you time to explore the gorgeous palace estate.
This is something I had considered previously to allow for more time to enjoy the palatial gardens beyond the Zoo and the aforementioned houses. I'm glad to see this is something others would suggest.

I've done aquarium first and last, and found it's much quieter in the morning. I'd advise therefore getting to the aquarium for opening, letting you leave through the iguanodon doors and starting on the elephant-gate side of the zoo - my personal favourite place to start.
An important note on this point - currently, the ongoing construction work within the aquarium which has rendered the third floor containing the amphibian and invertebrate collection inaccessible also means that there is no through-route between the aquarium and the zoo itself. As such the aquarium can only be entered and exited via the main entrance on Budapester Straße, and Kudu will therefore have to leave the aquarium entirely and enter the zoo through the main gates.
FYI, when I visited in June, the Iguanodon doors between the Aquarium and the Zoo itself were closed, so you would need to exit the Aquarium through the entrance in order to get to the zoo. IMO the elephant gate is the best entrance to start.
With all of this information, I think that doing the Aquarium first and then entering through the Elephant Gate makes the most sense. Thank you all for this! It is a shame that the amphibian/invertebrate floor is still closed... Hopefully this will not be my first and only visit to Berlin.

I'll try and do a full write-up on my advice for the Berlin collections as they are by far the zoos I am best acquainted with, but regardless I'd start elephant gate at the zoo and the 'main', right-hand entrance at the Tierpark.
Thank you very much! I appreciate any and all help. "Luckily" my work obligations have shifted from the Tierpark to Leipzig, so I will have to worry less about time at the Tierpark (although I will still, unfortunately, be limited to one day).

Yes, the current maps for Tierpark Berlin and Zoo Berlin are rather simplified and don't reflect the paths particularly well - the maps present within the guidebooks (up until they were discontinued by the current director in 2014) were significantly more helpful.

Obviously, several changes have been made since these maps were originally produced, with some paths and exhibits removed entirely, and many others containing completely different species, but they will still be of assistance when consulted alongside the modern-day maps:

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When I have a chance I'll produce edited versions of these scans (which have been taken from my personal copies of the respective guidebooks) to highlight the major differences, and to highlight a rough suggested route based on my own experiences.
I, likewise, greatly appreciate these additional older maps to cross reference with the current maps. I have downloaded them and have them ready for my future reference. I would greatly appreciate your own edited versions with the differences and suggested routes!

At Schönbrunn the upper floor of the tropical house is closed too since a few days.

If you search for something specific at Vienna zoos, feel free to ask!
Thank you so much for all of your up-to-date information on the Vienna collections! It is greatly appreciated :)

As nobody has posted something to Prague i start with it. Unless you want to see the pangolins with light at the indonesian jungle, i would suggest to start with the lower part of the zoo, as it has imo more unique stuff to offer. I would start the route at the water world with the gharial house and then Sichuan house - Giant salamder house - wetland aviaries - mountain ungulates - Rakos pavillion and then discover the upper part of the zoo.
And thank you very much for your suggestions for Prague, as well! I am, of course, very interested in seeing the pangolins (these will be my first ever pangolins!); however, I am not as concerned with seeing them in the light -- I would just like to see them active, if possible. Are they generally more active while the lights are still on or after they have gone off? I will also, of course, get a second chance at seeing them in Leipzig, as well.
 
And thank you very much for your suggestions for Prague, as well! I am, of course, very interested in seeing the pangolins (these will be my first ever pangolins!); however, I am not as concerned with seeing them in the light -- I would just like to see them active, if possible. Are they generally more active while the lights are still on or after they have gone off? I will also, of course, get a second chance at seeing them in Leipzig, as well.
Speaking from experience at both Prague and Leipzig:

In Prague, I never managed to get to the pangolins while their lights were on. However, midafternoon I found them to all be asleep (their dens have glass so you can view them still). Later in the afternoon, perhaps 4-5pm, all were awake and incredibly active, and due to the ambient lighting set up you will have no issues viewing them - it's also really easy to get photos too.

Regarding Leipzig: this is your best chance to see them up close. The lights remain on for the pangolins until around 10:45 and they like to pace up and down the glass - provided timings are still the same, the only way you'll get a better view of a pangolin is to actually hold one yourself. I can't remember the exact time but they're fed the same time every day, and in the case of my visit they were weighed by a keeper at the same time. The lights go on for this again, so no problem spotting them. The main difference in Leipzig is that their den is only viewable through a CCTV camera, but they're easy to see. If you can time your first visit to the Leipzig pangolins to coincide with the elephant's indoor bathing - 10:15am. The glass viewing for the elephants is opposite the pangolins.

I found the Leipzig pangolins to be easier to see, but the Prague ones were by far my favourite experience of my entire trip - the exhibits are far more natural and visitors are less obvious to the animals themselves, so you are pretty much guaranteed to see interesting behaviour.

I promise I'll get some write-ups for the Berlin collections done this week! I agree with the decision to do the aquarium first, as the only real draw of doing the zoo at 10am is visiting the nocturnal section while the lights are on, but everything is more active in the dark anyway. A day at the Tierpark should be more than enough, provided you pack a good pair of walking shoes!
 
Speaking from experience at both Prague and Leipzig:

In Prague, I never managed to get to the pangolins while their lights were on. However, midafternoon I found them to all be asleep (their dens have glass so you can view them still). Later in the afternoon, perhaps 4-5pm, all were awake and incredibly active, and due to the ambient lighting set up you will have no issues viewing them - it's also really easy to get photos too.

Regarding Leipzig: this is your best chance to see them up close. The lights remain on for the pangolins until around 10:45 and they like to pace up and down the glass - provided timings are still the same, the only way you'll get a better view of a pangolin is to actually hold one yourself. I can't remember the exact time but they're fed the same time every day, and in the case of my visit they were weighed by a keeper at the same time. The lights go on for this again, so no problem spotting them. The main difference in Leipzig is that their den is only viewable through a CCTV camera, but they're easy to see. If you can time your first visit to the Leipzig pangolins to coincide with the elephant's indoor bathing - 10:15am. The glass viewing for the elephants is opposite the pangolins.

I found the Leipzig pangolins to be easier to see, but the Prague ones were by far my favourite experience of my entire trip - the exhibits are far more natural and visitors are less obvious to the animals themselves, so you are pretty much guaranteed to see interesting behaviour.

I promise I'll get some write-ups for the Berlin collections done this week! I agree with the decision to do the aquarium first, as the only real draw of doing the zoo at 10am is visiting the nocturnal section while the lights are on, but everything is more active in the dark anyway. A day at the Tierpark should be more than enough, provided you pack a good pair of walking shoes!
This is all immensely helpful! Thank you so much.

For Prague, this is especially good to know, as other than the suggestion of "try to see the pangolins while the lights are still on", I have had a lot of people advise doing the zoo in the reverse order, so knowing that they are still likely to be readily visible and active later in the day alleviates that stress of choice. Your description of your experience viewing them makes me even that much more excited to see them for myself!

For Leipzig, it is nice to hear confirmations on the lighting time in the morning and timing of the indoor elephant bath, as this is something I also really wish to see. I knew it was a thing from previous ZooChat reports, but I could find no reference to it on their website when I first looked (only an outdoor elephant bath and keeper talk much later in the day), but it is on their online schedule now, so I do not know what happened there o_O

No worries on the write-ups on Berlin! I absolutely understand -- I barely have time to keep up with this thread, myself, at this point :P And I already greatly appreciate all of the gems of knowledge you have suggested thus far! :)
 
Alright so my definition of week might be a slightly curious one, but I've finally found the time to get a rough guide written for Tierpark Berlin. If this one isn't lampooned too hard I'll get one written for the Zoo as well. I'm sure all us regular (and not-so-regular) visitors have different habits when it comes to visiting, but this is the approximate route I've found myself doing on all of my visits. Just something to note - many zoos, especially in Europe it must be said, suffer from a great deal of backtracking to see everything. Well, suffer is one word - personally, it's a good excuse to make a travel partner let me see something again. Tierpark is a particularly strong case of this, so be prepared for some slightly erratic meandering.

So with the completely unnecessary preface out the way...

Tierpark Berlin:

Presumably you'll be getting the U-bahn in from the city centre, which is directly outside the zoo gates. Enter through the Bärenschaufenster entrance, easily spotted from the distinct lack of black bears that used to give the entrance its name (presumably eaten by the giganotosaurus that now calls it home).

Once inside, you will have both species of bison - European and Wood - on either side of you, and the ground squirrels and NA porcupine to the right. I'd take the first left, along the wisent paddock, which will lead you onto the long path next to the Tierpark School on the map. Following this along will take you along the series of deer paddocks, which should provide you with some very active animals early in the morning.

Next I'd head through the house gardens, where you'll see red-and-white giant squirrels. Following on from this is the pheasantry, which is almost always incredibly quiet early in the morning. I would then work your way back past the gibbons, to the area marked as "Dinoworld" on the map. Here a bit of the aforementioned meandering will be needed to see the pelicans, the peccaries and any deer you have missed, but it's a contender for my favourite part of the zoo for purely how beautiful it is year-round.

Once you end up in front of the café, head for the bears - you should get there after the polar bear feeding so both bears will be active, but without the crowds. After this, take the path right at the eurasian elk, which will lead you to the owls and aviaries. The dead end on the map houses southern tamandua and spider monkeys. After this, you'll have the domestics section which is very much worth a visit (second to Vienna in terms of quality of breeds held). The main reason for this route is to take you to the front of the Alfred-Brehm house, or more accurately the small section housing reindeer and honey badgers before it.

Regarding the ABH: I do the outside-left section first, covering the golden cats, Javan leopard and outside bear section before doubling back to do the inside section. Once you've done the inside of the house, head right of the main entrance to do the penguins, cheetah, clouded leopard and tree kangaroo walk-through. If you continue around this path shown on the map, you'll reach the vulture walk-through and should be next to the elephant house.

I'd then do the savannah section as it's a dead end. Usually by this point, I'm considering food - if you're packing a lunch then there's plenty of picnic areas, if not Restaurant Patagona is my preferred place and also lets you do another chunk of the zoo. The path there takes you past the maned wolves, shown on the map, as well as the first red panda exhibit. Looking at the map, you'll want to take the path between the hyenas and the elephant house, as there are no exhibits the other side. This knocks off the hyenas, Pallas' cats and dholes, but it's inescapable to loop back on yourself there. However, there's nothing held in the section of the dhole area next to the train tracks on the map so you can skip that. Reconnecting onto that main road will give you a fantastic view of the camel pastures.

My next step would be to go the lemurs, followed by the giraffe/okapi area - take the path following the elephant construction again to save going back on yourself. From there on, it's just a case of looping around the paths shown in that section on the map until you get to the cattle area.

Next you're best off doing the Hymalaya section, which is quite a walk and can take around an hour if you're taking your time. It's all very well signposted however. Once you've done that, do the Monkey House next, followed by the aviaries denoted by an eagle on the map. There's lots of rarities in this area, such as harpy eagle, so it's worth taking a bit of time to see everything. Following that, the Otter Island is the next best stop, before taking the perimeter path up past the musk ox and Père-David's deer bringing you back to the gibbons. Personally, I'd take the path along the Chacoan peccaries and camel pastures to give you better views of them as well as being able to view the nilgai/hog deer (this is unmarked on the map, between the deer and camels).

That route should cover everything Tierpark has to offer, but obviously it's quite a full-on day. On my most recent visit, admittedly with a lot of double-backing to ensure I saw species that were hidden earlier in the day, I arrived at 10am and left at 6pm. A good option may be to decide on your must-sees, and try to modify the route around that. The best advice (and this stands for all zoos, of course, but especially the Berlin collections, Leipzig and Prague) is to ask any specific collections on their respective news threads, and it's worth keeping an eye on the Tierpark one as there's several currently empty exhibits that will hopefully soon be filled.

Hopefully this can be of some use to you, but if in doubt - try and take a vaguely anti-clockwise route.
 
Alright so my definition of week might be a slightly curious one, but I've finally found the time to get a rough guide written for Tierpark Berlin. If this one isn't lampooned too hard I'll get one written for the Zoo as well. I'm sure all us regular (and not-so-regular) visitors have different habits when it comes to visiting, but this is the approximate route I've found myself doing on all of my visits. Just something to note - many zoos, especially in Europe it must be said, suffer from a great deal of backtracking to see everything. Well, suffer is one word - personally, it's a good excuse to make a travel partner let me see something again. Tierpark is a particularly strong case of this, so be prepared for some slightly erratic meandering.

So with the completely unnecessary preface out the way...

Tierpark Berlin:

Presumably you'll be getting the U-bahn in from the city centre, which is directly outside the zoo gates. Enter through the Bärenschaufenster entrance, easily spotted from the distinct lack of black bears that used to give the entrance its name (presumably eaten by the giganotosaurus that now calls it home).

Once inside, you will have both species of bison - European and Wood - on either side of you, and the ground squirrels and NA porcupine to the right. I'd take the first left, along the wisent paddock, which will lead you onto the long path next to the Tierpark School on the map. Following this along will take you along the series of deer paddocks, which should provide you with some very active animals early in the morning.

Next I'd head through the house gardens, where you'll see red-and-white giant squirrels. Following on from this is the pheasantry, which is almost always incredibly quiet early in the morning. I would then work your way back past the gibbons, to the area marked as "Dinoworld" on the map. Here a bit of the aforementioned meandering will be needed to see the pelicans, the peccaries and any deer you have missed, but it's a contender for my favourite part of the zoo for purely how beautiful it is year-round.

Once you end up in front of the café, head for the bears - you should get there after the polar bear feeding so both bears will be active, but without the crowds. After this, take the path right at the eurasian elk, which will lead you to the owls and aviaries. The dead end on the map houses southern tamandua and spider monkeys. After this, you'll have the domestics section which is very much worth a visit (second to Vienna in terms of quality of breeds held). The main reason for this route is to take you to the front of the Alfred-Brehm house, or more accurately the small section housing reindeer and honey badgers before it.

Regarding the ABH: I do the outside-left section first, covering the golden cats, Javan leopard and outside bear section before doubling back to do the inside section. Once you've done the inside of the house, head right of the main entrance to do the penguins, cheetah, clouded leopard and tree kangaroo walk-through. If you continue around this path shown on the map, you'll reach the vulture walk-through and should be next to the elephant house.

I'd then do the savannah section as it's a dead end. Usually by this point, I'm considering food - if you're packing a lunch then there's plenty of picnic areas, if not Restaurant Patagona is my preferred place and also lets you do another chunk of the zoo. The path there takes you past the maned wolves, shown on the map, as well as the first red panda exhibit. Looking at the map, you'll want to take the path between the hyenas and the elephant house, as there are no exhibits the other side. This knocks off the hyenas, Pallas' cats and dholes, but it's inescapable to loop back on yourself there. However, there's nothing held in the section of the dhole area next to the train tracks on the map so you can skip that. Reconnecting onto that main road will give you a fantastic view of the camel pastures.

My next step would be to go the lemurs, followed by the giraffe/okapi area - take the path following the elephant construction again to save going back on yourself. From there on, it's just a case of looping around the paths shown in that section on the map until you get to the cattle area.

Next you're best off doing the Hymalaya section, which is quite a walk and can take around an hour if you're taking your time. It's all very well signposted however. Once you've done that, do the Monkey House next, followed by the aviaries denoted by an eagle on the map. There's lots of rarities in this area, such as harpy eagle, so it's worth taking a bit of time to see everything. Following that, the Otter Island is the next best stop, before taking the perimeter path up past the musk ox and Père-David's deer bringing you back to the gibbons. Personally, I'd take the path along the Chacoan peccaries and camel pastures to give you better views of them as well as being able to view the nilgai/hog deer (this is unmarked on the map, between the deer and camels).

That route should cover everything Tierpark has to offer, but obviously it's quite a full-on day. On my most recent visit, admittedly with a lot of double-backing to ensure I saw species that were hidden earlier in the day, I arrived at 10am and left at 6pm. A good option may be to decide on your must-sees, and try to modify the route around that. The best advice (and this stands for all zoos, of course, but especially the Berlin collections, Leipzig and Prague) is to ask any specific collections on their respective news threads, and it's worth keeping an eye on the Tierpark one as there's several currently empty exhibits that will hopefully soon be filled.

Hopefully this can be of some use to you, but if in doubt - try and take a vaguely anti-clockwise route.
Haha, no worries! I am constantly finding that time is not on my side, so I understand :P I am incredibly grateful for this very detailed route! I cross referenced the current map and the map shared by @TeaLovingDave, and it makes a lot of sense and was easy to follow. I am not afraid of a little back-tracking to make sure I see everything, and my partner has come to expect and accept this :D

In just one week from today, we will land in Vienna to start our European adventure, and we will be visiting our first collection (Tiergarten Schönbrunn) the very next day! I look forward to sharing my experiences with everyone as soon as I can, as it is the least I can do for all of the help I have received in this thread over the past several months!
 
My apologies for still having not put together my thoughts on the collections I visited now almost a half a year later... I do still have the intention of writing up something, but life has just gotten in the way in the meantime. I did greatly appreciate all of the advice I received on this thread -- it was truly vital to me being able to make the most of the trip! It was truly incredible :)

With that, I find myself seeking another piece of advice ahead of another trip abroad later this year. :p... I have what will be an almost nine hour layover in London on my way to Cape Town (and then further abroad in South Africa), and I was curious if anyone has ever gone directly from Heathrow to the London Zoo, what exactly that commute via public transportation is like, and if it is worth trying to make said journey in the afternoon, where I'd likely only have a few hours to explore the zoo before it closes? Or should I just try to find something else to pass my time with? Thank you all in advance!
 
I have what will be an almost nine hour layover in London on my way to Cape Town (and then further abroad in South Africa), and I was curious if anyone has ever gone directly from Heathrow to the London Zoo, what exactly that commute via public transportation is like, and if it is worth trying to make said journey in the afternoon, where I'd likely only have a few hours to explore the zoo before it closes? Or should I just try to find something else to pass my time with? Thank you all in advance!
I've never done it personally but I'd say it's probably around 90 minutes to get from Heathrow to the Zoo. 30 minutes on the Elizabeth Line from Heathrow into Central, and then a couple of choices of Tube to get to Camden Town, Regent's Park or Baker Street to then walk to the zoo (all take a similar amount of time).

Alternatively, you can get the bus from Bond Street which is a stop on the Elizabeth Line. If the timings match up well it's a 30 minute train ride from the airport followed by a 15 minute bus ride to the zoo. The 274 (the bus service you'd be getting) has been a little funny recently with timings but it's meant to run every 10 minutes or so, and I'd imagine it'll be back to normal relatively soon.

It really depends on how long you want to give as a buffer for the connecting flight, but unlike just about any other public transport you can rely on the tube, buses and Elizabeth Line to actually run on time and constantly.

It's about half an hour into Central London as I've said, which is really the limiting factor. If you don't want to pay for the £30 zoo entry knowing you'll have but a few hours to have a look around, the Natural History Museum is 15 minutes from Paddington (another Elizabeth Line stop) and free.

All that's to say it's certainly doable, but up to your personal preference for how long you're comfortable with being away before your next flight.
 
I've never done it personally but I'd say it's probably around 90 minutes to get from Heathrow to the Zoo. 30 minutes on the Elizabeth Line from Heathrow into Central, and then a couple of choices of Tube to get to Camden Town, Regent's Park or Baker Street to then walk to the zoo (all take a similar amount of time).

Alternatively, you can get the bus from Bond Street which is a stop on the Elizabeth Line. If the timings match up well it's a 30 minute train ride from the airport followed by a 15 minute bus ride to the zoo. The 274 (the bus service you'd be getting) has been a little funny recently with timings but it's meant to run every 10 minutes or so, and I'd imagine it'll be back to normal relatively soon.

It really depends on how long you want to give as a buffer for the connecting flight, but unlike just about any other public transport you can rely on the tube, buses and Elizabeth Line to actually run on time and constantly.

It's about half an hour into Central London as I've said, which is really the limiting factor. If you don't want to pay for the £30 zoo entry knowing you'll have but a few hours to have a look around, the Natural History Museum is 15 minutes from Paddington (another Elizabeth Line stop) and free.

All that's to say it's certainly doable, but up to your personal preference for how long you're comfortable with being away before your next flight.
Thank you very much! :) It is good to know that there are a couple of solid options. I had tried playing around on Google Maps to see what public transport options there were, but it was a little tough to sort out alllll of the options that popped up :p I will definitely look into option of taking the bus from Bond Street, if the timings work out, that might be my best option to save time... I am also glad to hear that the Natural History Museum might be more manageable if things are slow getting out of the airport, as that was an option I was considering as well!

In the end, I think it is going to entirely depend on if the flight is on time, early, or late and how long it takes to get through customs :D I am not so much concerned about being back in time for the connecting flight, as that does not leave until 10:30pm, haha. I think I'll just have to be prepared with my options and decide from there.
 
I am once again reviving this thread in order to not clog up either of the below facilities' news threads :p

I am currently looking at making a return visit to South Africa in December (roughly the 8th to the New Year), and I will once again be faced with an extended European layover -- either in London again or in Munich. On my layover in London back in June, due to timing, I decided on just visiting the Natural History Museum, which was truly incredible! I very much enjoyed my visit and only wished I had a little bit more time to enjoy it ( I was there right up until closing). This time around, I am looking at a 12 hour to overnight layover to have a little bit more time to explore one of the above cities. With that, I am curious as to what an early December visit would look like to either ZSL London or Tierpark Hellabrunn? Would I be missing out on too much of what either facility has to offer by visiting in early winter? Thank you all again in advance for any and all insight :)
 
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