WRS Mandai expansion plans

KaiGoesMandai said:
That seems unlikely as it is rather small ,at 8 hectares, even compared to RFW ASIA at 13 hectares. The current animals that have been acquired for RFN AFRICA are Okapis, Diana Monkeys, L'Hoest's Monkeys, Red-bellied Lemur, Eastern Bongo, & Pygmy Hippo.
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That'll probably be most of the mammals but there may also be a few birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish and invertebrates moved over from the other parks, guessing there'd be about 20 species. Wit the headliner species being lemurs, okapis and pygmy hippos
 
FoxBat said:
other than the 2 fish species in The Cavern, what animals at RFW Asia have yet to be displayed?
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Javan langurs. Both are still being conditioned and apparently are targeted to be released next week. The axis deers are also not fully out yet.
 
DannySG said:
After my visit, I initially felt the same way as you. But after sharing my thoughts with friends over the past few days, my perspective started to change. Instead of seeing this as a traditional zoo, I now think of it more as a beautiful family-friendly park that just happens to have some animals. From a business perspective, its main audience isn’t hardcore animal lovers but rather people who don’t have much outdoor adventure experience but are curious to try—especially teenagers.

Also, I feel like the park has followed the same design approach as the bird paradise, where visitors explore the exhibits from the inside rather than just watching from the outside. Since it's mainly focused on mammals, there’s naturally a limit to how diverse the animal collection can be. But that’s just my personal take—for now.

Once it officially opens and all the animals are in place, I’m especially excited to see how the open-concept primate exhibits in the canopy layer turn out!
Hope there will be more smaller mamnal species in RFW Asia and Africa. Will they be considered as 1 park or 2 parks in Mandai Annual Membership bundle tickets?
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Hope there will be more species of smaller mammals in RFW Africa and Asia. Groups like rodents, insectivores, mustelids and prickly/armored mammals. Also the idea of bringing temporary exhibits of European/North American/New Zealand wildlife in European garden and forest air con conservatory, if permanent housing is not possible here. Some species adapted well in Mandai though ... such as ferrets, raccoon dogs and wolverines.
 
Hope you can arrange meetups around May, June and July, where single visitors can meet friends with this same hobby. Currently I am too busy to visit.
 
NATY said:
Still hope they make some space for the 2 Siamese crocodiles (and also the Chinese alligators) who deserve better than an exhibit meant for turtles. Don't know why they tore down their exhibit near Sungei Buaya (but at least the African dwarf crocodile is back now). Philippine crocodiles got a decently sized exhibit at least

If anything, looks like the aviary could squeeze in a few more birds and perhaps a binturong or ASCO exhibit would be good to see here.

Wonder what Africa will add besides okapi and Coquerel’s sifakas as Mandai doesn't have as many African rainforest species, guessing pygmy hippos, bongos, some monkeys like De Brazza's and colobus monkeys and the other lemurs will be there
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Is there a possibility that they could acquire duikers for rainforest Africa.
 
Tarzanboy said:
Hope there will be more species of smaller mammals in RFW Africa and Asia. Groups like rodents, insectivores, mustelids and prickly/armored mammals. Also the idea of bringing temporary exhibits of European/North American/New Zealand wildlife in European garden and forest air con conservatory, if permanent housing is not possible here. Some species adapted well in Mandai though ... such as ferrets, raccoon dogs and wolverines.
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I wonder if they will be doing a rainforest wild Americas or Australia.
 
Tarzanboy said:
Only the north american and europe sections are lacking in mandai.
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With good reason....! Why have regions at Singapore that are pretty much well represented in both Continents you mentioned here .... There is far more urgent need for space for S.E. Asian fauna, perhaps even Congo basin in a tropical zoo setting like Mandai Wildlife Reserves ..., don't you agree?!??
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
With good reason....! Why have regions at Singapore that are pretty much well represented in both Continents you mentioned here .... There is far more urgent need for space for S.E. Asian fauna, perhaps even Congo basin in a tropical zoo setting like Mandai Wildlife Reserves ..., don't you agree?!??
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Not really. Interesting cute critters like garden dormouse, bank vole, common mole, marmot, European hedgehog, least weasel, red fox, timber wolf as well as moose, reindeer, grizzly bear, pine marten, chipmunk, and many more are not in Mandai. Those featured in popular English fiction ... we have never seen them here. And also not here because of cold weather are Arctic and Himalayan creatures like polar bear, walrus, harp seal and manul (pallas cat), snow leopard, yak, etc. Usually unless the animal can adapt to our air con weather in conservatory for long with relevant plant habitats, they cannot come here, at least permanently.
Unless Mandai planners look at this thread seriously, everything mentioned here would reach their ears and put in action to bring in to fulfill our dreams?
 
Tarzanboy said:
Usually unless the animal can adapt to our air con weather in conservatory for long with relevant plant habitats, they cannot come here, at least permanently.
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You’ve already answered yourself why these animals are not part of Mandai’s collections.

Putting aside the ethical consideration of keeping animals indoor all-year round, having these temperature-controlled enclosures are resource intensive. In Mandai’s current situation, there’s also a space limitation as well.
 
Tarzanboy said:
Not really. Interesting cute critters like garden dormouse, bank vole, common mole, marmot, European hedgehog, least weasel, red fox, timber wolf as well as moose, reindeer, grizzly bear, pine marten, chipmunk, and many more are not in Mandai. Those featured in popular English fiction ... we have never seen them here. And also not here because of cold weather are Arctic and Himalayan creatures like polar bear, walrus, harp seal and manul (pallas cat), snow leopard, yak, etc. Usually unless the animal can adapt to our air con weather in conservatory for long with relevant plant habitats, they cannot come here, at least permanently.
Unless Mandai planners look at this thread seriously, everything mentioned here would reach their ears and put in action to bring in to fulfill our dreams?
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Huh, I am talking about tropical rainforest species ... why in your reply than go all out Not really and talk about an indoor tropical hall and temperature controlled facility.

The reason I observed that I do think the environment suits both SE Asian tropical rainforest and African Congo basin tropical forest (bongo and okapi and chimpanzee or anything like that in the Singapore-Mandai set up do not need an indoor tropical hall) best is EXACTLY the tropical high humidity environment in Singapore and thus no need for any megalomanic mega indoor tropical halls.

Both North American and European fauna will look out of place and will not adapt good to the Singapore heat and humidity. Mind you ...: I am really thankful that the time of polar bears or moose and American bison up in this climate is gone and .... - fingers crossed - that they will not return. I do not see any value in it.

Plus a good deal of the native and SE Asian fauna is endangered due to our footprints ever increasing in rainforest habitats and quite a few species locally both native Singaporean as well as the greater part of S.E. Asia need ex situ conservation breeding along with better protection and conservation through national parks and other protected areas.....!

The need for a more regional focus is rather urgent with the 6th Extinction on our horizon and for example quite a few SE Asian langur species are all endangered at best (You only have to look at the restricted range local .... langur that have only 1 known population across the Straits in Malaysia.....). Just saying!!!!!!
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
Huh, I am talking about tropical rainforest species ... why in your reply than go all out Not really and talk about an indoor tropical hall and temperature controlled facility.

The reason I observed that I do think the environment suits both SE Asian tropical rainforest and African Congo basin tropical forest (bongo and okapi and chimpanzee or anything like that in the Singapore-Mandai set up do not need an indoor tropical hall) best is EXACTLY the tropical high humidity environment in Singapore and thus no need for any megalomanic mega indoor tropical halls.

Both North American and European fauna will look out of place and will not adapt good to the Singapore heat and humidity. Mind you ...: I am really thankful that the time of polar bears or moose and American bison up in this climate is gone and .... - fingers crossed - that they will not return. I do not see any value in it.

Plus a good deal of the native and SE Asian fauna is endangered due to our footprints ever increasing in rainforest habitats and quite a few species locally both native Singaporean as well as the greater part of S.E. Asia need ex situ conservation breeding along with better protection and conservation through national parks and other protected areas.....!

The need for a more regional focus is rather urgent with the 6th Extinction on our horizon and for example quite a few SE Asian langur species are all endangered at best (You only have to look at the restricted range local .... langur that have only 1 known population across the Straits in Malaysia.....). Just saying!!!!!!
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When did Singapore zoo have Bison?
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
Both North American and European fauna will look out of place and will not adapt good to the Singapore heat and humidity. Mind you ...: I am really thankful that the time of polar bears or moose and American bison up in this climate is gone and .... - fingers crossed - that they will not return. I do not see any value in it.
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Cat-Man said:
When did Singapore zoo have Bison?
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Assumedly Kifaru's just listing examples of North American fauna as Singapore has never had bison or moose (I don't think anywhere in Asia has ever had moose let alone Southeast Asia). Bison are present in a zoo in Thailand and a few in Indonesia (Taman Safari has American and European) and are also decently hardy animals, though those 2 countries are relatively cooler.

Singapore has some North American fauna around, mostly desert or wetland species like two elderly beavers, raccoons, alligator snapping turtles, Gila monsters, western diamondback rattlesnakes, wood ducks (don't know if they're there anymore), alligator gars, a bald eagle, turkey vultures, milk snakesakes and western ratsnakes to list a few.
 
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NATY said:
Assumedly Kifaru's just listing examples of North American fauna as Singapore has never had bison or moose (I don't think anywhere in Asia has ever had moose let alone Southeast Asia). Bison are present in a zoo in Thailand and a few in Indonesia (Taman Safari has American and European) and are also decently hardy animals, though those 2 countries are relatively cooler.

Singapore has some North American fauna around, mostly desert or wetland species like two elderly beavers, raccoons, alligator snapping turtles, Gila monsters, western diamondback rattlesnakes, wood ducks (don't know if they're there anymore), alligator gars, a bald eagle, turkey vultures, milk snakesakes and western ratsnakes to list a few.
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Sorry, my argument is nothing to do whether species have or have not been at Singapore.... I am observing that Singapore climate is NOT APT to North American or European fauna and used the species I named as prime examples. PERIOD!

Nothing more and nothing less. No need to make an elephant out of salamander.
 
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