Singapore Zoo Singapore Zoo news 2007-2008

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dragon(ele)nerd said:
There was this article, i can't remember though about that singapore zoo has a agreement with many zoos of the world they mentioned about the young elephant bull Sang Raja going to koln, Inuka the polar bear though he hsn't left and Palong the elephant bull that went to Rotterdam which is now unfortunately dead. Anyway on to the main point it said that singapore zoo is a like you said not a massive interchange but quite big to some extent that they are a a extremly succesful zoo when it comes to breeding. It also mentioned that San Diego zoo and Sydney's Taronga zoo are another two extremly successfull breeding pitstops.

just saying.
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Palong was a shame, an extremely handsome bull with great breeding potential. Unfortunately he fell into a ditch and broke his leg and had to be euthanized.
 
dragon(ele)nerd said:
It's a shame about the polar bears they had a great exhibit. I don't mean to be rude but isn't the white tiger gene only recessive in Bengal subspecies? If not so then White Malayan tigers would be amazing if they were bred.
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Are you sure about the polar bears? From what i've read and photos i've seen, it's largely considered one of Singapore's worst (due to the concrete and tropical conditions...)

As for white tigers, the vast majority of them are inbred because the original white gene only came from one individual (if i recall correctly) and siblings have been bred together to create more white tigers (and hybridised with Amur tigers), not to mention as Zooish said, they hold no conservation value.
 
CZJimmy said:
Are you sure about the polar bears? From what i've read and photos i've seen, it's largely considered one of Singapore's worst (due to the concrete and tropical conditions...)

As for white tigers, the vast majority of them are inbred because the original white gene only came from one individual (if i recall correctly) and siblings have been bred together to create more white tigers (and hybridised with Amur tigers), not to mention as Zooish said, they hold no conservation value.
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I didn't put the weather in persective i only meant the exhibit but i guess it's getting worn down a bit.
 
PAT said:
I've never seen a picture of a good exhibit at Singapore (I've never been so i could be wrong) but it just looks like an island with an altar like rock formation in the middle and a pool around the front edge.
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Your right the exhibit is a island with a cliff face on the front sides with grass and tropical plants and the exhibit is surronded by a pool.
 
Zooish said:
A lot of people would argue about the polar exhibit at Singapore. It is too small if you ask me, although not the worst polar bear exhibit I've seen.

Supposedly only Bengals have the recessive gene, but they have been cross-bred with Siberians to create hybrid whites if i'm not mistaken. I don't think cross-breeding of tigers (or any other species) should ever be suggested in zoos. it goes against every principle of conservation and captive animal management.
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If i'm not wrong does that mean Malayan tigers can have the gene as well? Can i ask,( if anyone knows) does anyone know the parent's bloodlines? If they were white Bengal tigers? orange ones? and the subspecies.
Off topic here can anyone answer about the elephant breeding program?
I have a few questions.

How is Tun's health?
Is Chawang an artificial insemination donor?
If so is it true that his genes will be transported to Taronga and Perth zoo?
Are they going to try artificially inseminate Gambir or Jati?
And what are the breeding plans with Aprila and Intan?
Thanks,
 
dragon(ele)nerd said:
If i'm not wrong does that mean Malayan tigers can have the gene as well? Can i ask,( if anyone knows) does anyone know the parent's bloodlines? If they were white Bengal tigers? orange ones? and the subspecies.
Off topic here can anyone answer about the elephant breeding program?
I have a few questions.

How is Tun's health?
Is Chawang an artificial insemination donor?
If so is it true that his genes will be transported to Taronga and Perth zoo?
Are they going to try artificially inseminate Gambir or Jati?
And what are the breeding plans with Aprila and Intan?
Thanks,
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I don't think Malayans have the recessive white gene as there have been no accounts of this species reproducing white cubs on their own.

Which "parent's bloodlines" are you referring to?

Tun is generally healthy. Her foot sores are improving but it is unlikely she will be able to breed as she has a distended vagina. An operation was done to remove excess vaginal skin but it had limited success.

Chawang has donated his sperm I believe to Melbourne (can anyone confirm this?)

There are no plans yet to inseminate Gambir or Jati, but natural breeding is considered. These 2 girls are considered the "working" elephants for the Zoo, doing rides, demonstrations and interactions. Intan and Aprila were brought in as 'replacements' for the 2 females, once they've fully learnt the ropes, Gambir and Jati may be devoted to breeding.

Intan and Aprila will not be bred as they are Sumatrans while the breeding male Chawang is an Indian/Malayan ele.
 
Zooish said:
I don't think Malayans have the recessive white gene as there have been no accounts of this species reproducing white cubs on their own.

Which "parent's bloodlines" are you referring to?

Tun is generally healthy. Her foot sores are improving but it is unlikely she will be able to breed as she has a distended vagina. An operation was done to remove excess vaginal skin but it had limited success.

Chawang has donated his sperm I believe to Melbourne (can anyone confirm this?)

There are no plans yet to inseminate Gambir or Jati, but natural breeding is considered. These 2 girls are considered the "working" elephants for the Zoo, doing rides, demonstrations and interactions. Intan and Aprila were brought in as 'replacements' for the 2 females, once they've fully learnt the ropes, Gambir and Jati may be devoted to breeding.

Intan and Aprila will not be bred as they are Sumatrans while the breeding male Chawang is an Indian/Malayan ele.
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To answer i meant Winnie, jippie's and Omar's parents.
I read somewhere that Chawang donated his semen to Perth zoo. i haven't heard anything about Melbourne last time i went to Melbounre i asked the keeper and they said that they would try and breed naturally with Bong Su.
I don't know if that is the best idea at 34 Bong Su hasn't had any experince with breeding, mainly because he hasn't had the chance to. Although in the wild Bulls may start to breed at as late as 30ish. A bull called Rex in Rockton Safari sired his first calf at the age of 36 though.

Can i ask though when will Intan and Aprila master the rope skills. And when so will Gambir and Jati go to Night Safari then? Or will they spend their time with Chawang just for a short time? I don't think it will be that hard apprently Jati was Chawang's girlfriend. He mated with her several times but Jati never became pregnant.
I'd also like to ask why will Intan and Aprila not breed? Is it to keep subspecies in tact? Many zoos have different subspecies of bulls and cows with a very successful breeding rate. In fact Palong, the bull who was sent to Rotterdam if he mated he would of produced babies that are Thai, Vietnamese and Burmese-Thai Indian because at the time the cows Bernhardine and Yasmin were their they had a very varied pedigree. Their mother was full thai born to thai royal elephants and their father Ramon was born to an indian bull and a burmese cow.
By the way can anyone give me Aprila's and Intan's parents? All i know is that they share the same father.
 
dragon(ele)nerd said:
To answer i meant Winnie, jippie's and Omar's parents.
I read somewhere that Chawang donated his semen to Perth zoo. i haven't heard anything about Melbourne last time i went to Melbounre i asked the keeper and they said that they would try and breed naturally with Bong Su.
I don't know if that is the best idea at 34 Bong Su hasn't had any experince with breeding, mainly because he hasn't had the chance to. Although in the wild Bulls may start to breed at as late as 30ish. A bull called Rex in Rockton Safari sired his first calf at the age of 36 though.

Can i ask though when will Intan and Aprila master the rope skills. And when so will Gambir and Jati go to Night Safari then? Or will they spend their time with Chawang just for a short time? I don't think it will be that hard apprently Jati was Chawang's girlfriend. He mated with her several times but Jati never became pregnant.
I'd also like to ask why will Intan and Aprila not breed? Is it to keep subspecies in tact? Many zoos have different subspecies of bulls and cows with a very successful breeding rate. In fact Palong, the bull who was sent to Rotterdam if he mated he would of produced babies that are Thai, Vietnamese and Burmese-Thai Indian because at the time the cows Bernhardine and Yasmin were their they had a very varied pedigree. Their mother was full thai born to thai royal elephants and their father Ramon was born to an indian bull and a burmese cow.
By the way can anyone give me Aprila's and Intan's parents? All i know is that they share the same father.
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Jippie, Omar Winnie's parents were both white Bengals.

Aprila and Intan should be able to take over the reigns by next year. Gambir and Jati will probably remain at the Zoo and will be walked over to Night Safari to mate with Chawang. Indeed, Jati is considered Chawang's favourite girl.

Eles from Indochina (Thailand, Vietnam, Burma, etc) India and Peninsula Malaysia are considered the same subspecies (Elephas maximus indicus) although more recently this has been disputed.
 
dragon(ele)nerd said:
Not being rude but You see that is why i misunderstood you when you said Malayan Tigers.
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By the way does anyone, anyone here know the exact dates of Chawang's offspring?

the noname male i can't find.
Sang Raja is March 23rd 1999
And sang Wira is just stated as 2001.

Plus zooish said on another thread that Chawang was expecting a four calve. Is that true? Because there is nothing i can find.
 
dragon(ele)nerd said:
Plus zooish said on another thread that Chawang was expecting a four calve. Is that true? Because there is nothing i can find.
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Did I? I don't recall! :confused:

I think I mentioned a suspected birth but tests confirmed that the female eles were not pregnant.
 
Zooish said:
Did I? I don't recall! :confused:

I think I mentioned a suspected birth but tests confirmed that the female eles were not pregnant.
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Oh sorry maybe i got you mixed up, even though not pregnant which female/s were suspected pregnant?
 
dragon(ele)nerd said:
Oh sorry maybe i got you mixed up, even though not pregnant which female/s were suspected pregnant?
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Jamilah, 30 y/o female. She had a miscarriage before and seems to have been traumatised by that experience, so her ability to breed is in doubt.
 
River Safari project

From what I've just heard, plans for the River Safari are a GO! Construction is due to begin soon, but it might be slow because construction resources are being stretched thin here in Singapore due mainly to the massive works for 2 new resorts (including the new Universal Studios). Completion will probably be in 3 to 5 years.

The site chosen is rather odd (see map posted in my Gallery). It straddles across 2 adjacent plots of land from the Zoo and Night Safari and many exhibits at Night Safari will be affected. Most of the affected ones will be shifted to what is known as Phase 2, a piece of reserve land set aside for expansion. Some species will be phased out (likely Banteng, Barasingha).

On the Zoo side, that earmarked area has already been vacated of exhibits.

Boats will play a big role in this new project and boat docks/stations have already been built at the Zoo, with water trials expected to start next month. Operation of boat ride will start in September and cover only 2 stops. Once the River Safari is completed, the boat ride will be extended there.

The actual displays at River Safari are unknown to me and very likely still being debated. Initial rumours point to a possible African zone (there was talk of importing 10 to 15 Nile hippos).

The River Safari will be run as a separate park from the Zoo and Night Safari with its own management team.

In the meantime, preparations for the big move of Night Safari exhibits are underway. The earmarked plot could be vacated by years' end. Stay tuned for updates.
 
Zooish said:
Jamilah, 30 y/o female. She had a miscarriage before and seems to have been traumatised by that experience, so her ability to breed is in doubt.
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Really there is no record about that information, top-class, do you have any links that have really good photos of the elephants at night safari, most of them obviuosly are dark. Great news about the river project. How much will it cost in total?
 
USD40 million or so has been set aside for the River Safari, as well as upgrading of the Zoo and Night Safari.
 
A new proboscis monkey exhibit is being built now to serve as a second display for a breeding troop. For this new exhibit, the Zoo is trying to mix in other species, including Hornbills. The new exhibit should be ready by end-June or July.
 
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