The EU/Brexit vote and zoos

[Maguari]

Will be off to bed shortly feeling genuinely sick with worry for what I'll find in the morning.

It's been nice having friendly European governments as neighbours, an economy, a currency, a Union of four nations and a place in the world.

Of course, we'll muddle through somehow, but the UK will feel a bit less like home tomorrow if this goes the way it looks.

If Leave triumphs, it's not in my name.

 

[wensleydale]

Will be off to bed shortly feeling genuinely sick with worry for what I'll find in the morning.

It's been nice having friendly European governments as neighbours, an economy, a currency, a Union of four nations and a place in the world.

Of course, we'll muddle through somehow, but the UK will feel a bit less like home tomorrow if this goes the way it looks.

If Leave triumphs, it's not in my name.

Just be grateful you don't have donald trump in the running to run your country.

 

[taun]

Just be grateful you don't have donald trump in the running to run your country.

You just know that will happen to kick us all in the teeth....

 

[Shorts]

It looks as if the ****** might have their way, and the leave campaign may triumph.

Sadly true. I'm apoplectic with frustration at the moment.

The fact that such large amounts of people can ignore the opinions and arguments of a very large swathe of learned people depresses me and confirms what I've always thought about the UK population in general -we're stupid, stubborn and can't be reasoned with. Prior to this I was happy just thinking this (with the comfort that, at least theoretical, I could be wrong), now it's been proven without doubt.

At this low moment I wondering whether it's ever worth voting again when I'll always be out-numbered by unthinking, illogical people.

Grrr! It's going to be a fun day at work.

 

[Shorts]

You just know that will happen to kick us all in the teeth....

At least Trump winning* would only last five years (surely not ten ), we're stuck with this.

*For the avoidance of doubt, this is not an endorsement (not that sane opinion seems to count for anything nowadays).

 

[Shorts]

It's been nice having friendly European governments as neighbours, an economy, a currency, a Union of four nations and a place in the world.

Of course, we'll muddle through somehow, but the UK will feel a bit less like home tomorrow if this goes the way it looks.

If Leave triumphs, it's not in my name.

All superbly put.

I'm stopping posting on this now, don't want to look like an obsessed, unhinged maniac (the UK's obviously got enough of them already).

 

[lintworm]

Unfortunately that doesn't hold only for the English, the Dutch and the Swiss general public are very capable of doing exactly that.

It seems to me as it is a consequence of the internet, on which everybody can very easily find his own truth, that fits any narrowminded opinion, which creates rather harsh opinions....

 

[Arizona Docent]

For the record, a US presidential term is four years, not five. And if DT wins, I am moving to the UK whether they are in the EU or not!

 

[Kifaru Bwana]

For the record, a US presidential term is four years, not five. And if DT wins, I am moving to the UK whether they are in the EU or not!

I would say don't do that as in do not let a megalomaniac narcistic self-interested garden gnome whose opinions do seem to pander to a rather narrow-minded segment of US society and who is now dangerously close to becoming a national candidate for one of the US main parties in July and for your Presidency in November chase you off from your own shores.

It is exactly what we should not be doing and what those with an isolationist agenda would have us want! If there are no sane people left who will carry the banner for ethics, sanity and sound arguments than what are we worth?


On a sobering note: as lintworm did hint it the same I am afraid is true of the Continent and quite a few countries. We seem to be in a hole lately with support for traditional parties waning and those with a isolationist or opportunistic one theme parties' agenda claiming the vacuum left by politicians and a socio-economic elite that are not addressing the every day worries of your average Jo(e) Public in the street.

 

[LaughingDove]

The UK has made a tremendous mistake today.
As a Brit living in the EU this is of course going to have huge implications for everything for me.

 

[Lemurs]

I vastly underestimated the number of idiots in this country.

 

[Crowthorne]

I take small solace in living in a town with a majority Remain vote. It's not much solace however, because the town is apparently surrounded by idiot hoards.

It is a sad, sad day :'(

 

[Nikola Chavkosk]

We should respect the choice of citizens. After all ''our'' well-known UK will stay in strong ties with EU or Europe in general, like Switzerland for example.

 

[Ned]

As a remain voter I can't help thinking that the remain supporters are partly to blame for this. All the name calling and finger pointing has stifeled open debate. We should engage with people who have different views not call them idiots.

 

[Shorts]

As a remain voter I can't help thinking that the remain supporters are partly to blame for this. All the name calling and finger pointing has stifeled open debate. We should engage with people who have different views not call them idiots.

I tried, truly I tried -until now I've not called them as idiots.

Unfortunately, regardless of the rationality of argument* they, largely, refused to consider the facts/argument and generally retreated to parroting un-reasoned (xenophobic, dumbly patriotic and tabloid simplistic) soundbites back at me.

*At one stage I was talking to my pro-exit mother in hospital highlighting/explaining that a number of immigrants had assisted in her care -this had no impact whatsoever and she retreated to the "extra money for the NHS if we leave, immigrants** stealing our jobs" rhetoric.

** I'm with Bill Hicks on this, if someone can arrive on our shore, bedraggled after crossing half a continent, with a poor grasp of the language and still beat the natives to a job then it doesn't reflect good on the quality of the natives. For the record, the UK currently has record employment levels.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

For the record, the UK currently has record employment levels.

Emphasis on "currently"

 

[taun]

We should respect the choice of citizens. After all ''our'' well-known UK will stay in strong ties with EU or Europe in general, like Switzerland for example.

The vote is so close I don't see how we can leave when 48% of the country want to stay in the EU....if the vote had been a bigger majority, there would be less of an outcry. Well not from me as it is stupid to do this.

 

[Nikola Chavkosk]

The vote is so close I don't see how we can leave when 48% of the country want to stay in the EU....if the vote had been a bigger majority, there would be less of an outcry. Well not from me as it is stupid to do this.

Yes that's so close (51.9/48.1%). I just liked to say that's people choice, and not call them idiots. I am not British too, not even EU-citizen, just live in non-EU Europe.
Whether for such big thing like Berxit, two-thirds majority (66.7%) from voters, is needed for it to become reality?

 

[zooman]

I vastly underestimated the number of idiots in this country.

Hi Lemurs,
I don't mean to personally single you out for this, as the suggestion that only idiots wanted out of the EU has been said by many.

Have the so called intellectuals really done such a great job of running the UK / world. Particularly given a recent report stated that the corruption levels in the financial industry of London were higher than anywhere else in the world a clear reflection I think on the government.

 

[Arizona Docent]

Someone early on stated that Scotland was largely in favor of remain. I wonder if this exit result could push them into another referendum on independence with the added incentive of rejoining the EU?

As an American tourist I doubt this will have much impact on my future travels. But for those on the continent who wish to visit the UK it will create at least one inconvenience. Instead of going through the much shorter UK/EU passport line at Heathrow, I assume you will now have to wait in the much longer international passport line like I do?