Animals You've Seen That Few Zoochatters Have Seen

'As @Newzooboy stated, I'm certain a number of the herp and fish species from the National Zoo of South Africa would count as well... Unfortunately, I did not take note of all of the species. Those from Pretoria that I do know, might count, and haven't been mentioned would be the giant girdled lizard, Pickersgill's reed frog, and white-throated samango. Perhaps the Knysna turacos at Birds of Eden in South Africa, as well?'

Based on a very quick check (not at all exhaustive), the following from Pretoria and Johannesburg zoos might only have been seen by those zoochatters who have visited...

Zimbabwe Lesser Horned Baboon Spider
Shield-nosed snake
Common Mole Snake
Vundu (fish)
Pretty-fin Reedfish
Clanwilliam Yellow Fish
Clanwilliam Rock Catfish
Clanwilliam Redfin
Barnard's Rock Catfish
Snouted Cobra
Mozambique Spitting Cobra
Blackwinged Jardine's Parrot
Bushveld Rain Frog
 
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Actually, I think my best one is this...possibly posted somewhere on here before

When I was 6 or 7 at school in Perth, Western Australia, a friend brought in a Thorny Devil....in a tupperware sandwich box!!

Possibly a few Aussie members have seen this species somewhere though.....
 
Most of the mentions of clouded leopard in this thread pertain to Neofelis diardi, the Sunda Clouded Leopard - were I to guess, Kakapo does not recognise this species and is hence observing that N. nebulosa sensu lato is relatively common.

Either considering in one way or another, I've only readed clouded leopard, without specifying Sunda (I copied all lists and then deleted species not seen by me. This post Animals You've Seen That Few Zoochatters Have Seen said just Clouded leopard and from there I copied.)
Also, either if you considere a species, a subspecies of whatever is irrelevant. In this thread is specifically said that it can be included "species, subspecies and even genus". Somebody told even about blue lobster, that is not even a taxon.
 
I've seen a Liger( Lion x Tiger) in Paris Vincennes Zoo, 1968. Never seen another since though there are still a few about I think.
 
Some of these will be hard so I'm going to include both living and deceased (museum collections) here. Some of you have probably seen them:

1. Great Auk (bones)
2. Greater Adjutant (study skins)
3. Spot Breasted Ibis (study skin)
4. Giant Ibis (study skins)
5. Milky Stork (study skins)
6. Giant Ibis (study skins)
7. Andean & James Flamingo (study skins)
8. Kouprey (skull)
9. Sumatran Rhinos Ipuh, Emi & Andalas in Cincinnati
10. Javan Rhinoceros (mounted skins in Harvard & London)
 
Dead specimens, skins, fossils and bones cannot be included in this thread I think... if not, given my love for natural history museums, I would have seen tons of dreamed species including all the most famous recently extinct ones (thylacine, dodo, passenger pigeon, carolina parakeet, great auk, aurochs and the like...) and species impossible to keep alike, such as coelacanth or baleen whales. And many zoochatters would have seen the same!
 
Actually, I think my best one is this...possibly posted somewhere on here before

When I was 6 or 7 at school in Perth, Western Australia, a friend brought in a Thorny Devil....in a tupperware sandwich box!!

Possibly a few Aussie members have seen this species somewhere though.....
They are kept at the Melbourne Museum and Alice Springs, so I think "a handful" of Zoochatters will have seen them (I can think of at least five members who I know have seen the species). Still a rarity and the majority of Zoochatters will never see one.
 
Either considering in one way or another, I've only readed clouded leopard, without specifying Sunda (I copied all lists and then deleted species not seen by me. This post Animals You've Seen That Few Zoochatters Have Seen said just Clouded leopard and from there I copied.)
Also, either if you considere a species, a subspecies of whatever is irrelevant. In this thread is specifically said that it can be included "species, subspecies and even genus". Somebody told even about blue lobster, that is not even a taxon.
I read back through the whole thread and found only two mentions - one (in your link) just said Clouded Leopard, and the other (by FunkyGibbon) specified Sunda Clouded Leopard. The former will have been pretty commonly seen by Zoochatters, but for the latter one would need to have visited very specific zoos - most Zoochatters who have seen the Sunda species have done so at Lok Kawi in Sabah, but I know some others have seen them at zoos in Java, Singapore, and I think Sumatra also.
 
Some of these will be hard so I'm going to include both living and deceased (museum collections) here. Some of you have probably seen them:

1. Great Auk (bones)
2. Greater Adjutant (study skins)
3. Spot Breasted Ibis (study skin)
4. Giant Ibis (study skins)
5. Milky Stork (study skins)
6. Giant Ibis (study skins)
7. Andean & James Flamingo (study skins)
8. Kouprey (skull)
9. Sumatran Rhinos Ipuh, Emi & Andalas in Cincinnati
10. Javan Rhinoceros (mounted skins in Harvard & London)
Dead specimens, skins, fossils and bones cannot be included in this thread I think... if not, given my love for natural history museums, I would have seen tons of dreamed species including all the most famous recently extinct ones (thylacine, dodo, passenger pigeon, carolina parakeet, great auk, aurochs and the like...) and species impossible to keep alike, such as coelacanth or baleen whales. And many zoochatters would have seen the same!
Yeah, I don't understand the inclusion of museum specimens.

However, of those species I have seen living Greater Adjutant and Milky Stork and Sumatran Rhino (and bonus White-shouldered Ibis which I just remembered).

Lots of Zoochatters will have seen Andean and James' Flamingoes though.
 
They are kept at the Melbourne Museum and Alice Springs, so I think "a handful" of Zoochatters will have seen them (I can think of at least five members who I know have seen the species). Still a rarity and the majority of Zoochatters will never see one.

That's one I've seen too...
 
Captive
Kakapo
Spix Macaw
Lear's Macaw
Western Swamp Turtle
Peninsula Dwarf Monitor
Jentink's Duiker
Leadbeater's Possum
Numbat
Christmas Island Blue-tailed Skink
White-necked Picathartes
Grey-necked Picathartes
Long-beaked Echidna
Lord Howe Island Woodhen
Oenpelli Python

Captive and in the Wild
Thorny Devil
Platypus
Shoebill (not sure how common they are in captivity)
Regent Honeyeater

Wild
Pesquet Parrots
Reichenows Melidectes
Smokey Melipotes
Abbott's Booby
Christmas Island Frigate Bird
Christmas Island Imperial Pigeon
Christmas Island Hawk-Owl
Mountain Gorilla
Kilimanjaro Two-horned Chameleon
Long-billed Tailorbird
Barau's Petrel
Tropical Shearwater

:p

Hix
 
From the top of my head (not sure how common they are outside of Europe though):

- Percival's spiny mouse (Acomys percivali)
- Red Persian jird (Meriones persicus rossicus)
- Tristram's jird (Meriones tristrami)
- Southern Luzon giant cloud rat (Phloeomys cuming)
- Checkered elephant shrew (Rhynchocyon cirnei)
- Arctic jaeger (Stercorarius parasiticus)
- Golden-necked cassowary (Casuarius unappendiculatus aurantiacus)
 
Each one have it's own experience of zoo visit. I saw Kagus more times than Northern Raccoons.

Luckely we also have actual numbers. Zootierliste lists 6 zoos holding Kagu and a whopping almost 500 for Northern raccoon. So unless kagu are extremely common on other continents I stand by my statement that "almost common" in an exaggeration.

Bornean's are only held at Waddesdon, and they are currently off-show. Not sure how many are in the hands of the WPT though. What's the other one you're missing?

I've read that the WPA imported 8 pairs on something like that. I've never seen one though. The other one I'm still missing is the Hainan peacock-pheasant.
 
Since some people mentioned I thought I would too.

I've seen a blue American Lobster at Shedd Aquairum (I'm not sure they still keep it on-show, can anyone confirm?)
 
I read back through the whole thread and found only two mentions - one (in your link) just said Clouded Leopard, and the other (by FunkyGibbon) specified Sunda Clouded Leopard. The former will have been pretty commonly seen by Zoochatters, but for the latter one would need to have visited very specific zoos - most Zoochatters who have seen the Sunda species have done so at Lok Kawi in Sabah, but I know some others have seen them at zoos in Java, Singapore, and I think Sumatra also.
Which is the species at Singapore Night Safari? Because that’s the one I’ve seen.
 
So I spent some time and went through my Mammal lifelist and came up with the following 252 species that few zoochatters have likely seen. I appologize for the formatting ahead of time. Most of these I've only seen once before and usually somewhere outside North America or Europe (where most zoochatters call home.) If you'd like me to specify where I saw any of these just let me know!

I'm guessing there's a chance I'm the only zoochatter to have seen Zeledon's mouse opossum, Honduran white Bat, Palawan stink badger, Peale's dolphin, Merida Brocket Deer

I issue a challenge to see if anyone has seen over 100 of these (I can think of a few who may have a good shot!)



1. (Zaglossus bruijni) western long-beaked echidna

2. (Caluromys philander) bare-tailed woolly opossum

3. (Chironectes minimus) Yapok

4. (Didelphis aurita) big-eared opossum

5. (Marmosa zeledoni) Zeledon’s mouse opossum (wild)

6. (Antechinus agilis) Agile Antechinus

7. (Sminthopsis douglasi) Julia Creek Dunnart

8. (Parantechinus apicalis) Dibbler

9. (Dasyurus geoffroii) Chuditch or Western Quoll

10. (Myrmecobius fasciatus) Numbat

11. (Isoodon auratus) Golden Bandicoot

12. (Isoodon macrourus) Northern Brown Bandicoot

13. (Isoodon fusciventer) western brown bandicoot

14. (Parameles gunnii) Eastern Barred Bandicoot

15. (Trichosurus arnhemensis) Northern brushtail possum

16. (Trichosurus caninus) short-eared Possum

17. (Trichosurus cunninghami) Mountain Brushtail possum

18. (Phalanger ornatus) ornate cuscus

19. (Strigocuscus celebensis) Sulawesi dwarf cuscus

20. (Spilocuscus maculates) Common Spotted cuscus

21. (Hypsiprymnodon moschatus) Musky Rat-kangaroo (wild)

22. (Bettongia gaimardi) Tasmanian Bettong

23. (Bettongia lesueur) burrowing bettong

24. (Bettongia tropica) Northern Bettong

25. (Dendrolagus inustus) grizzled tree-kangaroo

26. (Dendrolagus lumholtzi) Lumholtz’s Tree-kangaroo

27. (Lagorchestes conspicillatus) Spectacled Hare-wallaby

28. (Petrogale lateralis) Black-footed Rock-wallaby

29. (Petrogale concinna) Nabarlek

30. (Petrogale persephone) Proserpine Rock-wallaby

31. (Petrogale wilkinsi) Wilkin's Rock-wallaby

32. (Onychogalea fraenata) Brindled nail-tailed Wallaby

33. (Onychogalea unguifera) northern nail-tail wallaby

34. (Macropus antilopinus) Antilopine Wallaroo

35. (Macropus bernardus) Black Wallaroo

36. (Macropus dorsalis) Black-striped Wallaby

37. (Macropus Irma) Western Brush Wallaby

38. (Macropus parryi) Pretty-faced, Whiptail Wallaby

39. (Burramys parvus) Mountain Pygmy-possum

40. (Cercartetus nanus) Eastern Pygmy-possum

41. (Pseudocheirus occidentalis) Western Ringtail

42. (Petaurus australis) Yellow-bellied Glider

43. (Petaurus gracilis) Mahogany Glider

44. (Diplomesodon pulchellum) Piebald shrew

45. (Sorex araneus) Common shrew

46. (Sorex minutissimus) Eurasian least shrew

47. Sorex unguiculatus) Long-clawed shrew

48. (Mogera wogura) Japanese Mole

49. (Mogera imaizumii) Small Japanese Mole

50. (Atelerix frontalis) Southern African Hedgehog

51. (Hemiechinus auritus) long-eared Hedgehog

52. (Anoura geoffroyi) Geoffroy’s tailless bat

53. (Artibeus lituratus) Great fruit-eating bat

54. (Carollia castanea) Chestnut short-tailed bat

55. (Carollia sowelli) Sowell’s short-tailed bat

56. (Dermanura toltecus) Toltec fruit-eating bat

57. (Dermanura watsoni) Thomas’s fruit-eating bat (wild)

58. (Diaemus youngi) White-winged vampire bat

59. (Ectophylla alba) Honduran white bat (wild)

60. (Erophylla sezekorni) buffy flower bat (wild)

61. (Glossophaga commissarisi) Commissaris’s long-tongued bat

62. (Lasionycteris noctivagans) silver-haired bat

63. (Lonchophylla robusta) Orange nectar bat (wild)

64. (Macroderma gigas) Ghost bat

65. (Mesophylla macconnelli) MacConnell’s bat (wild)

66. (Myotis albescens) Silver-tipped myotis (wild)

67. (Myotis nigricans) Black myotis (wild)

68. (Nycticeius humeralis) evening bat

69. (Peropteryx kappleri) Greater dog-like bat (wild)

70. (Pipistrellus abramus) Japanese pipistrelle

71. (Platyrrhinus vittatus) Greater broad-nosed bat

72. (Plecotus auritus) Brown long-eared bat

73. (Pteropus alecto) Black Flying Fox

74. (Pteropus dasymallus) Ryukyu fruit bat

75. (Rhinolophus luctus) woolly horseshoe bat (wild)

76. (Rhynchonycteris naso) proboscis bat (wild)

77. (Rousettus leschenaultia) Leschenault’s Rousette

78. (Saccopteryx leptura) Lesser sac-winged bat (wild)

79. (Uroderma bilobatum) Tent-making bat (wild)

80. (Vespertilio murinus) Parti-colored bat

81. (Tupaia minor) pygmy tree shrew

82. (Tupaia tana) large tree shrew

83. (Tupaia palawanensis) Palawan tree shrew

84. (Galeopterus variegatus) Malayan colugo (wild in the zoo)

85. (Cephalopachus bancanus) Western Tarsier

86. (Tarsius spectrum) spectral tarsier

87. (Microcebus lehilahytsara) Goodman's mouse lemur

88. (Mirza zaza) Northern giant mouse lemur

89. (Eulemur sanfordi) Sanford’s brown lemur

90. (Cebus kaapori) Kaapori capuchin

91. (Sapajus flavius) blonde capuchin

92. (Chiropotes albinasus) white-nosed saki

93. (Pithecia inusta) Burnished saki

94. (Pithecia irrorata) Rio Tapajos saki

95. (Pithecia mittermeieri) Mittermeier’s Tapajos saki

96. (Aotus miconax) Peruvian night monkey

97. (Ateles marginatus) White-cheeked spider monkey

98. (Brachyteles arachnoids) Southern muriqui

99. (Mico humeralifer) tassel-eared marmoset

100. (Callicebus bernhardi) Prince Bernhard's titi

101. (Callicebus brunneus) brown titi monkey

102. (Callicebus nigrifons) black-fronted titi monkey

103. (Callicebus oenanthe) San Martin titi monkey

104. (Callicebus vieirai) Vieira’s titi monkey

105. (Macaca assamensis) Assam macaque

106. (Macaca cyclopis) Formosan rock macaque

107. (Macaca leonine) northern pig-tailed macaque

108. (Macaca ochreata) booted macaque

109. (Macaca pagensis) Pagai Island macaque

110. (Macaca siberu) Siberut macaque

111. (Pygathrix cinerea) grey-shanked douc langur

112. (Pygathrix nigripes) black-shanked douc langur

113. (Rhinopithecus bieti) black snub-nosed monkey

114. (Rhinopithecus brelichi) gray snub-nosed monkey

115. (Rhinopithecus roxellana) golden monkey

116. (Trachypithecus barbei) Tenasserim lutung

117. (Trachypithecus crepusculus) Gray Langur

118. (Trachypithecus delacouri) Delacour's langur

119. (Trachypithecus germaini) Indochinese lutung

120. (Trachypithecus hatinhensis) Hatinh langur

121. (Trachypithecus laotum) Laotian Langur

122. (Trachypithecus margarita) Annamese silvered langur

123. (Trachypithecus poliocephalus) white-headed or cat ba langur

124. (Hylobates klossii) Kloss's gibbon

125. (Hoolock hoolock) western hoolock gibbon

126. (Cyclopes didactylus) silky anteater

127. (Cabassous unicinctus) Southern naked-tailed armadillo

128. (Chaetophractus nationi) Bolivian hairy armadillo

129. (Priodontes maximus) Giant Armadillo

130. (Ochotona princeps) American pika (wild)

131. (Lepus brachyurus) Japanese hare

132. (Lepus capensis arabicus) Arabian hare

133. (Romerolagus diazi) volcano rabbit

134. (Allactaga major) Great jerboa

135. (Apodemus argenteus) small Japanese field mouse

136. (Apodemus speciosus) large Japanese field mouse

137. (Brachytarsomys albicauda) white-tailed antsangy

138. (Cuniculus taczanowskii) Mountain Paca

139. (Dasyprocta mexicana) Mexican agouti

140. (Eliurus grandidieri) Grandidier’s Tufted-tailed Rat

141. (Euchoreutes naso) Long-eared jerboa

142. (Funisciurus pyrropus talboti) Cameroon fire-footed rope squirrel

143. (Glirulus japonicas) Japanese dormouse

144. (Heliophobius argenteocinereus) Silvery mole rat

145. (Hylopetes alboniger) Particoloured flying squirrel

146. (Hystrix javanica) Sunda porcupine

147. (Hystrix sumatrae) Sumatran porcupine

148. (Melomys burtoni) Grassland Melomys

149. (Meriones vinogradovi) Vinogradov's jird

150. (Microsciuris alfari) Alfaro’s Pygmy Squirrel (wild)

151. (Microtus montebelli) Japanese grass vole

152. (Petaurista elegans) spotted giant flying squirrel

153. (Petaurista leucogenys) Japanese Giant Flying Squirrel

154. (Poliocitellus franklinii) Franklin’s ground squirrel

155. (Pseudomys australis) Plains, Eastern mouse

156. (Pteromys momonga) Japanese flying squirrel

157. (Rattus tanezumi) Tanezumi rat (wild, but in zoo)

158. (Salpingotus crassicauda) thick-tailed pygmy jerboa

159. (Salpingotus kozlovi) Kozlov's pygmy jerboa

160. (Sicista betulina) Northern birch mouse

161. (Tachyoryctes daemon) Demon mole rat

162. (Typhlomys cinereus) Chinese pygmy dormouse

163. (Uromys caudimaculatus) giant white-tailed rat (wild, no photo)

164. (Vulpes cana) Blanford’s fox

165. (Vulpes rueppellii) Rueppell’s fox

166. (Cerdocyon thous) Crab-eating Fox

167. (Lycalopex culpaeus) Colpeo Fox

168. (Lycalopex griseus) Argentine grey fox

169. (Lycalopex gymnocercus) pampas fox

170. (Lycalopex sechurae) Sechura Fox

171. (Lycalopex vetulus) hoary fox

172. (Bassaricyon gabbii) Bushy-tailed Olingo

173. (Mustela eversmanii) Steppe polecat

174. (Mustela itatsi) Japanese weasel

175. (Ictonyx libycus) Saharan striped polecat

176. (Meles anakuma) Japanese Badger

177. (Martes melampus) Japanese Marten

178. (Martes zibellina) Sable

179. (Melogale orientalis) Javan ferret-badger

180. (Melogale personata) Burmese ferret-badger

181. (Lontra feline) Marine Otter

182. (Mydaus marchei) Palawan stink badger

183. (Conepatus chinga) Molina’s hog-nosed skunk

184. (Conepatus humboldtii) Humboldt’s hog-nosed skunk

185. (Conepatus semistriatus) striped hog-nosed skunk

186. (Spilogale angustifrons) Southern spotted skunk (wild, no photos)

187. (Fossa fossana) Malagasy civet or fanaloka

188. (Galidictis grandidieri) Grandidier’s mongoose

189. (Prionodon linsang) Banded Linsang

190. (Paradoxurus aureus) golden wet-zone palm civet (possibly mislabeled)

191. (Viverra zibetha) large Indian civet

192. (Herpestes brachyurus palawanus) Palawan short-tailed mongoose

193. (Herpestes urva) crab-eating mongoose

194. (Leopardus braccatus) Pantanal Cat

195. (Leopardus colocolo) Colocolo

196. (Pardofelis marmorata) marbled cat

197. Prionailurus planiceps) flat-headed cat

198. (Lynx pardinus) Iberian lynx

199. (Zalophus wollebaeki) Galapagos sea lion (wild)

200. (Arctocephalus galapagoensis) Galapagos Fur Seal (wild)

201. (Arctocephalus forsteri) New Zealand fur seal (wild)

202. (Arctocephalus townsendi) Guadalupe fur seal

203. (Arctocephalus tropicalis) subantarctic fur seal

204. (Hydrurga leptonyx) leopard seal

205. (Monachus schauinslandi) Hawaiian monk seal

206. (Mirounga leonine) Southern elephant seal

207. (Balaenoptera acutorostrata) northern
minke whale (wild)

208. (Balaenoptera musculus) blue whale (wild)

209. (Balaenoptera physalus) fin whale (wild)

210. (Eschrichtius robustus) gray whale (in captivity!)

211. (Physeter macrocephalus) sperm whale (wild)

212. (Neophocaena phocaenoides) finless porpoise

213. (Orcaella brevirostris) Irrawaddy dolphin

214. (Grampus griseus) Risso’s Dolphin

215. (Cephalorhynchus hectori) Hector's dolphin (wild)

216. (Lagenorhynchus australis) Peale’s dolphin (wild)

217. (Lagenorhynchus obscurus) dusky dolphin (wild)

218. (Stenella frontalis) Atlantic Spotted Dolphin

219. (Steno bredanensis) Rough-toothed Dolphin

220. (Trichechus inunguis) Amazonian manatee

221. (Trichechus senegalensis) African manatee

222. (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) Northern White Rhinoceros

223. (Dicerorhinus sumatrensis) Sumatran Rhinoceros

224. (Potamochoerus larvatus) bushpig

225. (Sus philippinensis) Philippine Warty Pig

226. (Moschiola kathygre) yellow-striped chevrotain

227. (Muntiacus crinifrons) black muntjac

228. (Muntiacus feae) Fea's muntjac

229. (Cervus macneilli) MacNeill’s Deer

230. (Rusa marianna) Philippine brown deer

231. (Capreolus pygargus) Siberian roe deer

232. (Mazama bricenii) Merida Brocket Deer

233. (Mazama pandora) Yucatan brown brocket deer

234. (Blastocerus dichotomus) Marsh deer

235. (Ozotoceros bezoarticus) Pampas deer

236. (Tetracerus quadricornis) Four-horned Antelope

237. (Cephalophus jentinki) Jentink's Duiker

238. (Cephalophus zebra) Zebra Duiker

239. (Kobus leche smithemani) Black lechwe

240. (Pelea capreolus) Grey Rhebok

241. (Alcelaphus buselaphus) Jackson's hartebeest

242. (Madoqua saltiana) Salt’s dik-dik

243. (Ourebia ourebi) Oribi

244. Gazella bennettii) Chinkara

245. (Gazella marica) Arabian sand gazelle

246. (Saiga tatarica) saiga

247. (Capricornis swinhoei) Formosan serow

248. (Capricornis maritimus) Indochinese serow

249. (Arabitragus jayakari) Arabian tahr

250. (Nilgiritragus hylocrius) Nilgiri tahr (no photos)

251. (Naemorhedus goral) Himalayan Goral

252. (Ovis nivicola) snow sheep
 
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