Anyone know anything about Bala?
asiatic lions in europe
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Anyone know anything about Bala?
Paulkarli08
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The Helsinki male is called 'Mokan' he was born at Koln Zoo in 2002, before moving to Helsinki in 2004
I've just been squinting at that too. ISIS lists Lodz having 1.2, so I'm guessing Luei is still alive.
Not such good news on this occasion:
Dear Harry
Unfortunately the Asian lion studbook is only part of my job and I do have a large number of emails to get through in addition to running the animal department. Once I have updated the studbook to the end of last year I will email you a copy which should answer all of these questions, including any others that you think of.
Best regards,
Neil
Neil Dorman
Curator
EEP Co-ordinator for Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persicus)
Dear Harry
Unfortunately the Asian lion studbook is only part of my job and I do have a large number of emails to get through in addition to running the animal department. Once I have updated the studbook to the end of last year I will email you a copy which should answer all of these questions, including any others that you think of.
Best regards,
Neil
Neil Dorman
Curator
EEP Co-ordinator for Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persicus)
Only the following aren't actually complete:
- Benidorm's lions. Know that they have 1.1 but haven't a clue who they are. Possibly 'Bala' born Besancon 2005. Female could be 'Xylitol', born Helsinki 2005.
- Names of Berlin TP lions. Both born Nurnberg 2006 to Thar and Kerra.
- Names of young Boissiere Lions, born 2008 to Jaipur and Kampti.
- The history of Jerusalem's 'Ilenia'.
- Names + Genders of new Magdeburg cubs.
- Name + history of Prague male. Possibly 'Pentagon' born Lodz 2002.
The rest is done!
- Benidorm's lions. Know that they have 1.1 but haven't a clue who they are. Possibly 'Bala' born Besancon 2005. Female could be 'Xylitol', born Helsinki 2005.
- Names of Berlin TP lions. Both born Nurnberg 2006 to Thar and Kerra.
- Names of young Boissiere Lions, born 2008 to Jaipur and Kampti.
- The history of Jerusalem's 'Ilenia'.
- Names + Genders of new Magdeburg cubs.
- Name + history of Prague male. Possibly 'Pentagon' born Lodz 2002.
The rest is done!
Sorry, a bit of confusion here - this is what could be done to 'improve' the breeding programme.
Regards,
Harry
AD Prague lions - I know you already emailed them, so just from research on their pages (czech verison) - annual report from 08 is stating they got new female in 2008 "Aisha" born in Bristol which changed infertile "Kalu" from Burford (born 26th November 2002 in Bristol) - Kalu went to Le Pal.
I have never heard of Masala so far and don't know where that came from. Some confusions in the list can be produced by habit of renaming animals - for example Pentagon of Prague is called Max in some events.
I have never heard of Masala so far and don't know where that came from. Some confusions in the list can be produced by habit of renaming animals - for example Pentagon of Prague is called Max in some events.
Sorry, I'll have to delete that list - it's clearly causing confusion - it was meant to be a list of what could be done to resolve the current breeding situation.
I do not think you need to do that. Just allow for corrections in it.
It is fine as it is methinks and if forumsters in the know can add on and make important contributions we all benefit, do not we?
Sorry, the confusion is being caused because I did not make it clear enough what that list was about. It was not a list of individuals in Europe, it was meant to show where animals could be moved to 'sort out' the breeding programme. A new, full list of individuals will be added very soon.
And here is the updated list:
BERLIN TIERPARK 0.2
CHURCHILLA (F) - born NURNBERG 2006, father is THAR, mother is KERRA
CHAKEERA (F) - born NURNBERG 2006, father is THAR, mother is KERRA
BESANCON 1.2
TEJAS (M) - born CHESTER 2007, father is ASOKA, mother is ASHA PAIGNTON
LADY (F) – born LODZ 1998, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
SHIVA (F) - born BESANCON 2005, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
BOISSIERE 1.3
JAIPUR (M) – born BESANCON 2005, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
KAMPTI (F) – born COLOGNE 2002, father is RAJESH, mother is YAMUNA
(F) - born BOISSIERE 2008, father is JAIPUR, mother is KALINDI
(F) - born BOISSIERE 2008, father is JAIPUR, mother is KALINDI
BRISTOL 1.0
KAMAL (M) - born HELSINKI 1996, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
COTSWOLDS 1.2
CHANDRA (M) - born CHESTER 1994 as RAJAH, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
AKELA (F) - born HELSINKI 1994, father is VANARAJ, mother is KIRTIDA
GIR (F) - born HELSINKI 1994, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
CHESSINGTON 1.1
ASHOK (M) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
KALINGA (F) - born BOISSIERE 2002, father is VANARAJ, mother is SHANTEE
CHESTER 1.1
IBLIS (M) - born PLANCKENDAEL 2007, father is CHANDRA, mother is KOYLA
ASHA (F) - born PAIGNTON 1998, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
DUDLEY 1.2
ITAR (M) - born PLANCKENDAEL 2007, father is CHANDRA, mother is KOYLA
KYRA (F) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is KAMLESH
ASHA (F) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is GITA
DVUR KRALOVE 0.2
YENNA (F) - born HELSINKI 2007, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
YANNA (F) - born HELSINKI 2007, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
EDINBURGH 1.2
ROYAL (M) - born HELSINKI 2000, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
KAMLESH (F) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
GITA (F) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
PARKEN 1.2
KAYA (M) - born DUDLEY 1998, father is MAX, mother is GIR
SARLA (F) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
ISHAR (F) - born PLANCKENDAEL 2007, father is CHANDRA, mother is KOYLA
FRANKFURT 1.1
KASHI (M) - born COTSWOLDS 1999, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
KIRI (F) - born LONDON 1999, father is KAMAL, mother is RUCHI
HELSINKI 3.1
MOKAN (M) - born LODZ 2002, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
PANDORA (F) – born HELSINKI, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
BASIL (M) - born HELSINKI 2009, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
BRUNO (M) - born HELSINKI 2009, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
COLOGNE 1.1
RAJESH (M) - born CHESTER 1996, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
YAMUNA (F) - born ZURICH 1998, father is BHAGIRATH, mother is MENA
JERUSALEM 1.3
LIDER (M) – born LODZ 1998, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
ILENIA (F)
INDI (F) - born BRISTOL 1998, father is RAJAH, mother is MOTI
LAVINIA (F) – born LONDON 1993, father is ARFUR, mother is RUCHI
JEREZ 1.1
OLLE (M) - born LODZ, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
ANGELIKA (F) - born BERLIN, father is CHAMBAL, mother is INDI
LE PAL 1.2
VALENTINE (M) – born TWYCROSS 2004, father is KAMAL, mother is KHARI
SARI (F) – born LODZ 2004, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
KALU (F) – born COTSWOLDS 2002, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
LODZ 1.2
SUBALI (M) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is GITA
LUEI (F) – born HELSINKI 1994, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
TYCIA (F) – born LODZ 2003, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
LONDON 2.2
LUCIFER (M) - born COTSWOLDS 2002, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
ABI (F) - born LONDON 1999, father is KAMAL, mother is RUCHI
RUBI (F) - born LONDON 2009, father is LUCIFER, mother is ABI
MAXIMUS (M) - born LONDON 2009, father is LUCIFER, mother is ABI
MAGDEBURG 1.1.2
PARYS (M) - born LODZ 2002, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
KALINDI (F) - born COLOGNE 2002, father is RAJESH, mother is YAMUNA
(UNKNOWN) - born MAGDEBURG 2010, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
(UNKNOWN) - born MAGDEBURG 2010, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
MOSCOW 1.1
MIDAS (M) - born LONDON 1993, father is ARFUR, mother is RUCHI
JADE (F) – born CHESTER 1994, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
MULHOUSE 1.1
JETPUR (M) - born DUDLEY 2003, father is MAX, mother is GIR
SITA (F) – born BESANCON 2002, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
NURNBERG 1.1
THAR (M) - born COTSWOLDS 1999, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
KERRA (F) - born DUDLEY 1999, father is MAX, mother is GIR
OSTRAVA 1.1
SOHAN (M) - born PAIGNTON 2003, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
ASHA (F) - born PARKEN 2003, father is KAYA, mother is SARLA
PAIGNTON 1.1
MWAMBA (M) - born TWYCROSS 2004, father is KAMAL, mother is KARA
INDU (F) - born PAIGNTON 2003, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
PLANCKENDAEL 1.1
CHANDRA (M) – born CHESTER 1996, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
KOYLA (F) - born BOISSIERE 2002, father is VANARAJ, mother is SHANTEE
PRAGUE 1.1
PENTAGON (M) – born LODZ 2002, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
AIESHA (F) - born BRISTOL 2001, father is RAJAH, mother is MOTI
ROME 1.1
ASOKA (M) - born CHESTER 1998, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
JADZIA (F) – born TYWCROSS 2003, father is KAMAL, mother is KHARI
ROTTERDAM 1.6
KUMAR (M) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is KAMLESH
SHANTEE (F) - born PAIGNTON 1998, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
BENTE (F) - born BOISSIERE 2006, father is VANARAJ, mother is SHANTEE
NAUI (F) - born ROTTERDAM 2009, father is KUMAR, mother is SHANTEE
KUMARI (F) - born MAGDEBURG 2007, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
KIBURI (F) - born MAGDEBURG 2007, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
KIBA (F) - born MAGDEBURG 2007, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
SANTILLANA 1.1
LORD (M) - born LODZ 1998, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
MASALA (F) - born CHESTER 1998, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
TALLIN 1.1
JUNA (M) – born FRANKFURT 2003, father is KASHI, mother is KIRI
TORI (F) – born LODZ 2005, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
BENIDORM 1.1
(M)
(F)
ZURICH 2.3
RADJA (M) - born BESANCON 2005, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
JOY (F) - born FRANKFURT 2003, father is KASHI, mother is KIRI
AIPANI (F) - born HELSINKI 2000, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
JEEVANA (F) - born ZURICH 2009, father is RADJA, mother is JOY
JASRAJ (M) - born ZURICH 2009, father is RADJA, mother is JOY
BUDAPEST 0.2
KANKAI (F) - born MULHOUSE 2008, father is JETPUR, mother is SITA
SHIRWANE (F) - born MULHOUSE 2008, father is JETPUR, mother is SITA
So, is there anything that can be added to the database?
BERLIN TIERPARK 0.2
CHURCHILLA (F) - born NURNBERG 2006, father is THAR, mother is KERRA
CHAKEERA (F) - born NURNBERG 2006, father is THAR, mother is KERRA
BESANCON 1.2
TEJAS (M) - born CHESTER 2007, father is ASOKA, mother is ASHA PAIGNTON
LADY (F) – born LODZ 1998, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
SHIVA (F) - born BESANCON 2005, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
BOISSIERE 1.3
JAIPUR (M) – born BESANCON 2005, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
KAMPTI (F) – born COLOGNE 2002, father is RAJESH, mother is YAMUNA
(F) - born BOISSIERE 2008, father is JAIPUR, mother is KALINDI
(F) - born BOISSIERE 2008, father is JAIPUR, mother is KALINDI
BRISTOL 1.0
KAMAL (M) - born HELSINKI 1996, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
COTSWOLDS 1.2
CHANDRA (M) - born CHESTER 1994 as RAJAH, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
AKELA (F) - born HELSINKI 1994, father is VANARAJ, mother is KIRTIDA
GIR (F) - born HELSINKI 1994, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
CHESSINGTON 1.1
ASHOK (M) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
KALINGA (F) - born BOISSIERE 2002, father is VANARAJ, mother is SHANTEE
CHESTER 1.1
IBLIS (M) - born PLANCKENDAEL 2007, father is CHANDRA, mother is KOYLA
ASHA (F) - born PAIGNTON 1998, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
DUDLEY 1.2
ITAR (M) - born PLANCKENDAEL 2007, father is CHANDRA, mother is KOYLA
KYRA (F) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is KAMLESH
ASHA (F) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is GITA
DVUR KRALOVE 0.2
YENNA (F) - born HELSINKI 2007, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
YANNA (F) - born HELSINKI 2007, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
EDINBURGH 1.2
ROYAL (M) - born HELSINKI 2000, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
KAMLESH (F) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
GITA (F) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
PARKEN 1.2
KAYA (M) - born DUDLEY 1998, father is MAX, mother is GIR
SARLA (F) - born CHESTER 1997, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
ISHAR (F) - born PLANCKENDAEL 2007, father is CHANDRA, mother is KOYLA
FRANKFURT 1.1
KASHI (M) - born COTSWOLDS 1999, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
KIRI (F) - born LONDON 1999, father is KAMAL, mother is RUCHI
HELSINKI 3.1
MOKAN (M) - born LODZ 2002, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
PANDORA (F) – born HELSINKI, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
BASIL (M) - born HELSINKI 2009, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
BRUNO (M) - born HELSINKI 2009, father is MOKAN, mother is PANDORA
COLOGNE 1.1
RAJESH (M) - born CHESTER 1996, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
YAMUNA (F) - born ZURICH 1998, father is BHAGIRATH, mother is MENA
JERUSALEM 1.3
LIDER (M) – born LODZ 1998, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
ILENIA (F)
INDI (F) - born BRISTOL 1998, father is RAJAH, mother is MOTI
LAVINIA (F) – born LONDON 1993, father is ARFUR, mother is RUCHI
JEREZ 1.1
OLLE (M) - born LODZ, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
ANGELIKA (F) - born BERLIN, father is CHAMBAL, mother is INDI
LE PAL 1.2
VALENTINE (M) – born TWYCROSS 2004, father is KAMAL, mother is KHARI
SARI (F) – born LODZ 2004, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
KALU (F) – born COTSWOLDS 2002, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
LODZ 1.2
SUBALI (M) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is GITA
LUEI (F) – born HELSINKI 1994, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
TYCIA (F) – born LODZ 2003, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
LONDON 2.2
LUCIFER (M) - born COTSWOLDS 2002, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
ABI (F) - born LONDON 1999, father is KAMAL, mother is RUCHI
RUBI (F) - born LONDON 2009, father is LUCIFER, mother is ABI
MAXIMUS (M) - born LONDON 2009, father is LUCIFER, mother is ABI
MAGDEBURG 1.1.2
PARYS (M) - born LODZ 2002, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
KALINDI (F) - born COLOGNE 2002, father is RAJESH, mother is YAMUNA
(UNKNOWN) - born MAGDEBURG 2010, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
(UNKNOWN) - born MAGDEBURG 2010, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
MOSCOW 1.1
MIDAS (M) - born LONDON 1993, father is ARFUR, mother is RUCHI
JADE (F) – born CHESTER 1994, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
MULHOUSE 1.1
JETPUR (M) - born DUDLEY 2003, father is MAX, mother is GIR
SITA (F) – born BESANCON 2002, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
NURNBERG 1.1
THAR (M) - born COTSWOLDS 1999, father is SUBU, mother is AKELA
KERRA (F) - born DUDLEY 1999, father is MAX, mother is GIR
OSTRAVA 1.1
SOHAN (M) - born PAIGNTON 2003, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
ASHA (F) - born PARKEN 2003, father is KAYA, mother is SARLA
PAIGNTON 1.1
MWAMBA (M) - born TWYCROSS 2004, father is KAMAL, mother is KARA
INDU (F) - born PAIGNTON 2003, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
PLANCKENDAEL 1.1
CHANDRA (M) – born CHESTER 1996, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
KOYLA (F) - born BOISSIERE 2002, father is VANARAJ, mother is SHANTEE
PRAGUE 1.1
PENTAGON (M) – born LODZ 2002, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
AIESHA (F) - born BRISTOL 2001, father is RAJAH, mother is MOTI
ROME 1.1
ASOKA (M) - born CHESTER 1998, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
JADZIA (F) – born TYWCROSS 2003, father is KAMAL, mother is KHARI
ROTTERDAM 1.6
KUMAR (M) - born EDINBURGH 2006, father is ROYAL, mother is KAMLESH
SHANTEE (F) - born PAIGNTON 1998, father is MIDAS, mother is JAMNA
BENTE (F) - born BOISSIERE 2006, father is VANARAJ, mother is SHANTEE
NAUI (F) - born ROTTERDAM 2009, father is KUMAR, mother is SHANTEE
KUMARI (F) - born MAGDEBURG 2007, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
KIBURI (F) - born MAGDEBURG 2007, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
KIBA (F) - born MAGDEBURG 2007, father is PARYS, mother is KALINDI
SANTILLANA 1.1
LORD (M) - born LODZ 1998, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
MASALA (F) - born CHESTER 1998, father is JAKE, mother is CHANDANI
TALLIN 1.1
JUNA (M) – born FRANKFURT 2003, father is KASHI, mother is KIRI
TORI (F) – born LODZ 2005, father is BRUNO, mother is LUEI
BENIDORM 1.1
(M)
(F)
ZURICH 2.3
RADJA (M) - born BESANCON 2005, father is DACCA, mother is LADY
JOY (F) - born FRANKFURT 2003, father is KASHI, mother is KIRI
AIPANI (F) - born HELSINKI 2000, father is VANARAJ, mother is LESLIE
JEEVANA (F) - born ZURICH 2009, father is RADJA, mother is JOY
JASRAJ (M) - born ZURICH 2009, father is RADJA, mother is JOY
BUDAPEST 0.2
KANKAI (F) - born MULHOUSE 2008, father is JETPUR, mother is SITA
SHIRWANE (F) - born MULHOUSE 2008, father is JETPUR, mother is SITA
So, is there anything that can be added to the database?
Paulkarli08
Well-Known Member
Colchester will be a NO, as its just received African lions again.
Dublin is a rumour, however once their elderly African lioness dies, then who knows.... maybe
There are some spare females needing a home...
Dublin is a rumour, however once their elderly African lioness dies, then who knows.... maybe
There are some spare females needing a home...
Stuttgart made a request to the EEP for Asiatic Lions in 2006 however nothing seem's to of moved forward since then. So I suspect that they have either given up or are still waiting to be assigned individulas.