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Oh it would have to be country by country given I'll think you'll find the zoos on the continent are much better than those we have here with the exception of Chester :p

You are right, but Chester hasn't won every contest it has competed in with just UK zoos for competition and there are plenty more it wouldn't win!
 
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Well, the decision was made by Sim, not me :p I'm merely explaining the reasoning for it, given the issue has been highlighted in this thread.
This might sound a stupid suggestion, but could this 'competition' not be put in a sub forum, which could then be deleted in its entirety once zoos are open again? Very little news, discussion or visit reports are being posted at the moment!
 
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You are right, but Chester hasn't won every contest it has competed in with just UK zoos for competition and there are plenty more it wouldn't win!

That is very true. Chimpanzee, Asian Elephant and Indian Rhino are all contests that Chester have not won.
 
I agree that the lack of zoo news has actually maybe made these polls an interesting distraction to fill the vacuum for some healthy debate and to see people's different views on certain things.

Can we not have a polling competition sub group? That way it will only be a distraction for those who want to be involved!

Let's make sure we all keep light hearted at the moment, especially as we are an internet forum of people with a common interest - why not indulge in it.
 
I would normally not contribute to this type of thread but I will as it has been used to discuss the stream of recent poll threads which have unfortunately swamped the U.K. forum and makes its increasingly difficult to find the threads that I might be interested in. I would rather not have to go to page 2 or 3 of the forum pages of poll threads.
 
How's about a poll on whether we should continue these polls (or how many threads per week they should be restricted to)? :D:D
 
I would normally not contribute to this type of thread but I will as it has been used to discuss the stream of recent poll threads which have unfortunately swamped the U.K. forum and makes its increasingly difficult to find the threads that I might be interested in. I would rather not have to go to page 2 or 3 of the forum pages of poll threads.

I do understand your point of view and in my opinion that is why a sub forum for these polls would appear to be the best solution for those who want to ignore them and those who want to engage.
 
I do understand your point of view and in my opinion that is why a sub forum for these polls would appear to be the best solution for those who want to ignore them and those who want to engage.

Yes, but the problem is that the threads will still clog up the forum for any of us that search out what to want to read by looking at recent posts. Putting them in their own sub-forum (as I understand it) would not avoid that issue (meaning the only way to avoid the threads would be to view all other forums one at a time, not cool).

If they didn't appear in all the threads listed when looking at recent posts I wouldn't have a problem with it.
 
Yes, but the problem is that the threads will still clog up the forum for any of us that search out what to want to read by looking at recent posts. Putting them in their own sub-forum (as I understand it) would not avoid that issue (meaning the only way to avoid the threads would be to view all other forums one at a time, not cool).

If they didn't appear in all the threads listed when looking at recent posts I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Ok, fair enough I understand your point. However, they are far more diluted on there with only 3 currently on the first page out of 26. Not sure how to get around that problem.
 
Ok, fair enough I understand your point. However, they are far more diluted on there with only 3 currently on the first page out of 26. Not sure how to get around that problem.

Yes, but how many would be on there currently had you not been asked to slow down a little? ;)
 
Yes, but the problem is that the threads will still clog up the forum for any of us that search out what to want to read by looking at recent posts. Putting them in their own sub-forum (as I understand it) would not avoid that issue (meaning the only way to avoid the threads would be to view all other forums one at a time, not cool).

If they didn't appear in all the threads listed when looking at recent posts I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I raised this exact point when this series started some weeks ago, and suggested a separate listing like the 'Closed Zoos' one which was 'swamping' the UK section a while back. Some of the moderators agreed, but the site owner said it was up to me to use the 'ignore' option, whatever that is. I guess he wants to sustain 'traffic' which is perhaps slowing down due to zoos being closed.
 
I would normally not contribute to this type of thread but I will as it has been used to discuss the stream of recent poll threads which have unfortunately swamped the U.K. forum and makes its increasingly difficult to find the threads that I might be interested in. I would rather not have to go to page 2 or 3 of the forum pages of poll threads.
Very little is being posted anyway as all zoos are closed in the UK, so I don't see the problem!
 
Unfortunately, there have been a couple of complaints about the threads I have been creating causing cluttering in the forum and I have been told by the moderators I am only allowed to make 1 or 2 threads a week or my ability to create threads will be taken away from me. I have tried to argue that people might lose interest if it is once a week and that it would take ages to finish. For example the number of threads done so far would take half a year. I also pointed out only 8 threads are open at a time and that yesterday for example only 10% of threads were Best UK ones. Unfortunately I was told I haven't got enough posts to be allowed to create threads that often like in the ZooChat Cup and that there was no option to move it to a separate forum.

I had a private discussion with you where I expressed the concerns the moderators had about the volume of new threads / polls you are creating and suggested that you wind it back a bit to avoid flooding the forums and new posts searches.

You then proceeded to argue the point, refusing to consider that there is a point of view other than yours which is valid here.

You have now taken your argument public - presumably to try and gain popular support for your initiative with the intention of forcing me to change my mind and allow you to continue with your high volume of threads and polls.

You have then used several positive responses from other members to try and justify your position to me again in private - completely ignoring the opinions of several other members who agree with the moderator view that it is a bit overdone and is cluttering the forum.

To say that I am not impressed with your approach to this would be an understatement.

I'm extremely disappointed in this decision because I thought these threads were a good addition to ZooChat and generated good discussion with over 100 members taking part in the polls.

To be clear: at no point have we indicated that the threads you are creating are problematic from a content perspective and we do agree that they have generated good discussion. The only concern we have is with the volume of new threads created and have suggested that one or two threads per week is more appropriate.

However, unfortunately the moderators have put a stop to this and in my opinion ruined the format which will be extremely slow paced now.

We have not put a stop to anything - we have simply asked you to slow down with the rate at which you create new threads or polls.

Given these threads are completely independent of each other, there is no "format" to be ruined. If indeed, you were attempting to run some kind of broader competition (say, along the lines of the ZooChat Cup), then this is the first we're hearing of this - you have not consulted with the moderators about your intentions, nor stopped to consider the impact your actions might have on other users of this site.

At the end of the day, this is not "BritishZooFanChat" - this site is not about you and your threads, it is a site for all zoo and animal conservation enthusiasts from all over the world and my job as the administrator is to ensure that the site provides a platform for all members - not just you.

Nothing we are asking you to do is preventing you from continuing. There is a middle ground here which will give everyone what they need. I have decided that one or two new threads/poll per week is appropriate to find that balance.
 
Well, the decision was made by Sim, not me :p I'm merely explaining the reasoning for it, given the issue has been highlighted in this thread.
Ah, right. I thought it was a mod decision. :) Thanks for the explanation. :)
Sorry, I had been given the impression it was a mod decision.

To be clear - the moderators generally discuss all such issues - and in this case, there were concerns raised by the moderators on multiple occasions about the volume of threads and polls being created.

At the end of the day, as administrator of the site, the decisions are ultimately my responsibility - but I make these decisions in consultation with the moderation team.
 
This might sound a stupid suggestion, but could this 'competition' not be put in a sub forum, which could then be deleted in its entirety once zoos are open again? Very little news, discussion or visit reports are being posted at the moment!

Is this a competition? I just see a bunch of stand-alone threads with polls.

Either way, a subforum does not solve the entire problem - as mentioned by @Shorts, anyone attempting to perform a New Posts search will be flooded by these threads too.

Until I can implement an "ignore content" function to the forum software, a subforum only solves part of the problem.

I'm also not inclined to create subforums for every different "competition" that someone wants to run.
 
I sort of liked these threads and it was interesting the comparisons between different institutions and the way they housed species in such different ways so quite a shame that they are not going to continue.
 
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