Biggest 'Pet' Hate

I hate when people go to the pet store an buy a betta and get a tiny bowl with bad food, no filter, heat or aeration. They need soooooo much more than that. No animal is easy, and it is your responsibility to provide them a happy life for the rest of their life
 
Been seeing more irresponsible husky ownership in the past few years and it drives me nuts. People are all like "Oh, they're so pretty, they look like wolves, I'm gonna get one!" and then they're shocked to find out that a dog that was bred to pull sleds through hundreds of miles of snow has a LOT of energy. (in addition, they're stubborn, they shed a lot, they can be noisy, and they're total escape artists) A distressing amount of people think that if you raise an animal (domestic or wild) a certain way, it overcomes any instinct and breeding. (which is where you get those stories of stupid people who get pet tigers and then get mauled) Husky rescues these days are so full.

Another bad side effect of this is that there are more puppy mills and backyard breeders producing more huskies to keep up with demand. And of course, these are unhealthy and badly bred dogs. The husky has always been a fairly healthy breed and now I'm seeing a bunch of people who think that it's normal for them to have major stomach problems.

Huskies are great dogs and all (I had a mix until last year and I hope to get another husky mix when I'm ready for another dog) but honestly, they're bad pets for the average person.
I totally agree!!! As someone who is saving up for exotics I am researching EVERY aspect of the species biology/behavior/life cycle before I'm gong to make a final decision. I was very much planning on getting a baboon in the future, but the fact that they can't be potty trained is the major factor as to why I've dropped the idea for the time being (yes the teeth don't scare me and I would get a neutered baby) and monkeys wearing diapers 24/7 looks so unnatural so I've moved onto other species for a choice in the future. But yes....... it is SO IMPORTANT TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. It will pay off big time in the long run!
 
I hate when people go to the pet store an buy a betta and get a tiny bowl with bad food, no filter, heat or aeration. They need soooooo much more than that. No animal is easy, and it is your responsibility to provide them a happy life for the rest of their life
Yes! I wish there were more responsible pet owners out there. Our pets deserve the best!
 
Yep, there are very irresponsible owners out there, especially when it comes to pitbulls, fish, exotic animals and birds.
 
I hate it when private owners of domestic and exotic animals deny the fact that their animal is a pet.
 
I hate it when private owners of domestic and exotic animals deny the fact that their animal is a pet.

I mean, are they pets? To me it really depends on how it's cared for. Having a private collection of animals is a bit different than having exotic pets that live in your house and you treat like a dog.

~Thylo
 
I mean, are they pets? To me it really depends on how it's cared for. Having a private collection of animals is a bit different than having exotic pets that live in your house and you treat like a dog.

~Thylo
Well is the animal is confined by an individual or the family of the said individual then it is a pet. And an animal being a pet does not mean that is will be treated like a dog, cat or any other conventional house pet. The only differences that most private animal educators have from a pet owner is a piece of paper, a visit from a stranger once every while, and other people pay them to see their pets.
 
Well is the animal is confined by an individual or the family of the said individual then it is a pet. And an animal being a pet does not mean that is will be treated like a dog, cat or any other conventional house pet. The only differences that most private animal educators have from a pet owner is a piece of paper, a visit from a stranger once every while, and other people pay them to see their pets.

So then are zoo animals in privately owned zoos pets to you?

~Thylo
 
So then are zoo animals in privately owned zoos pets to you?

~Thylo
Unless if it is owned by a municipality, an organization, or any other commune that consists of strangers (which I assume most big zoos today are) then yes, I believe that zoo animals are pets. Besides there are some successful places that stepped into the animal industry as pet owners.
 
I totally agree!!! As someone who is saving up for exotics I am researching EVERY aspect of the species biology/behavior/life cycle before I'm gong to make a final decision. I was very much planning on getting a baboon in the future, but the fact that they can't be potty trained is the major factor as to why I've dropped the idea for the time being (yes the teeth don't scare me and I would get a neutered baby) and monkeys wearing diapers 24/7 looks so unnatural so I've moved onto other species for a choice in the future. But yes....... it is SO IMPORTANT TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. It will pay off big time in the long run!
Unless if it is owned by a municipality, an organization, or any other commune that consists of strangers (which I assume most big zoos today are) then yes, I believe that zoo animals are pets. Besides there are some successful places that stepped into the animal industry as pet owners.
I'm with Thylo on this one. I have about a hundred birds here, none of which are pets. My dog is a pet. The difference is that the dog is socialised to people, and lives in the house. The birds have their own living space and are encouraged to behave as naturally as possible.
 
I wouldn’t like to say that animals are pets, I think of captive animals as animals you are providing a home for.
 
I'm with Thylo on this one. I have about a hundred birds here, none of which are pets. My dog is a pet. The difference is that the dog is socialised to people, and lives in the house. The birds have their own living space and are encouraged to behave as naturally as possible.
I totally agree!!! As someone who is saving up for exotics I am researching EVERY aspect of the species biology/behavior/life cycle before I'm gong to make a final decision. I was very much planning on getting a baboon in the future, but the fact that they can't be potty trained is the major factor as to why I've dropped the idea for the time being (yes the teeth don't scare me and I would get a neutered baby) and monkeys wearing diapers 24/7 looks so unnatural so I've moved onto other species for a choice in the future. But yes....... it is SO IMPORTANT TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. It will pay off big time in the long run!
The very idea of a pet baboon is IMHO irresponsible. There is no way it could ever be allowed to have the same complex social life in human society that it would have in baboon society, even if surgically mutilated in an attempt to fix this. It would not behave appropriately in human society, which could never replace a baboon troop. Rant over.
 
Dictionary.com defines pet (as a noun) as:

"1. any domesticated or tamed animal that is kept as a companion and cared for affectionately.
2. a person especially cherished or indulged; favorite: He was the teacher's pet.
3. a thing particularly cherished."
 
Dictionary.com defines pet (as a noun) as:

"1. any domesticated or tamed animal that is kept as a companion and cared for affectionately.
2. a person especially cherished or indulged; favorite: He was the teacher's pet.
3. a thing particularly cherished."
In this case the baboon I used to want would be classified as number 3.
 
The very idea of a pet baboon is IMHO irresponsible. There is no way it could ever be allowed to have the same complex social life in human society that it would have in baboon society, even if surgically mutilated in an attempt to fix this. It would not behave appropriately in human society, which could never replace a baboon troop. Rant over.
What if you had a baboon and you treated it like a zoo would have treated it?
 
What if you had a baboon and you treated it like a zoo would have treated it?

While this is theoretically possible, I'd think you'd be very hard pressed to find a private owner who has the time and money to create a modern (I think we're talking about modern exhibits right?) Baboon habitat. These things cost a lot of money, and I'm not sure I agree with keeping any large primate like a human being.
 
While this is theoretically possible, I'd think you'd be very hard pressed to find a private owner who has the time and money to create a modern (I think we're talking about modern exhibits right?) Baboon habitat. These things cost a lot of money, and I'm not sure I agree with keeping any large primate like a human being.
They do cost a lot, some can be up to 100K. If I had the money, I would have a baboon, because I don't think about any animals being like humans genetically but I don't want to argue about that.
 
I totally agree!!! As someone who is saving up for exotics I am researching EVERY aspect of the species biology/behavior/life cycle before I'm gong to make a final decision. I was very much planning on getting a baboon in the future, but the fact that they can't be potty trained is the major factor as to why I've dropped the idea for the time being (yes the teeth don't scare me and I would get a neutered baby) and monkeys wearing diapers 24/7 looks so unnatural so I've moved onto other species for a choice in the future. But yes....... it is SO IMPORTANT TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. It will pay off big time in the long run!

Unfortunately, a lot of people don't think they need to do research because huskies are dogs, and dogs are supposed to be easy, right? Bleh.

As for the discussion on what a pet is... I consider it a pet if it's a companion. Even with exotic pets, a lot of them are seen more as hobbies (or lifestyles, if they're intense enough) rather than companions.
 
What if you had a baboon and you treated it like a zoo would have treated it?
Exactly! Unlike the "monkey moms" who try to make their pet primates human children, I would have a naturalistic habitat where the baboons could live in a secure environment and If they wanted to socialize with me, I'd go into their enclosure and let them initiate the contact. Like elephants who can choose to participate in training sessions or not it'd be the exact same way with the baboons. I'm not gonna lie, I would spoil them rotten with lots of enrichment and fun activities to keep them healthy and very happy! :)
 
They do cost a lot, some can be up to 100K. If I had the money, I would have a baboon, because I don't think about any animals being like humans genetically but I don't want to argue about that.
I like baboons because like us they live in a large group and are smart enough that they won't instantly attack you like the smaller cercopithecines (vervets/guenons/etc...). They are very smart and often give you several warnings before they choose to full on attack. There was a famous Chacma baboon named Jack who helped a railway worker in South Africa with being a signalman with the Port Elizabeth Mainline Railroad. In this clip, the owner of "Typhoon" the baboon who starred in the 1990 film Shakma with Roddy McDowell discusses his experience of working with this amazing animal. Overall I think baboons are severely misunderstood primates and I feel most people see the massive canines and think its a bloodthirsty beast. Often times, the most incredible animals are the ones that are relegated to the sidelines of public interest or conservation concern.
 
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