British People, Passports, and Brexit

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Brum

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Buldeo said:
Unfortunately, a ten hour plane ride prevents me from being a regular.
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I only live a few hours away by train but I don't want to go to Paris alone, and my ex never fancied a romantic break to somewhere with quite so many animal collections... ;) So we ended up in Bristol and I only got to visit one zoo. So much for compromise! (And at least I didn't have to fork out for a passport! :p)
 
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UK Passports are required for any country outside the United Kingdom...
 
lintworm said:
You really need a passport or isnt' an ID card enough, like it is for other EU country members to visit most other European countries....
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I don't think that applies, I'm pretty sure you need an ID card to get to Northern Ireland so passports are probably a necessity for a proper foreign border.
 
lintworm said:
You really need a passport or isnt' an ID card enough, like it is for other EU country members to visit most other European countries....
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Well we don't have ID cards, or at least the vast majority of British people don't. Last year I had to show my passport on the train between Germany and Denmark, but I think a few years ago I didn't for ferries between Finland and Sweden and Estonia. Obviously if there isn't a hard border then a passport is unnecessary in practice.
 
FunkyGibbon said:
Well we don't have ID cards, or at least the vast majority of British people don't
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In Britain most people just use their driving license or provisional license as their ID, it's generally accepted everywhere, from opening a bank account, through to proof of age, and anything else in between. I know it's the only ID my friend has to show to get back to Northern Ireland for instance, and he can also use it to cross into Ireland proper as well as he has no passport. He's Irish by the way, that's why I'm using him as an example due to his frequent trips home.
 
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FunkyGibbon said:
Well we don't have ID cards, or at least the vast majority of British people don't. Last year I had to show my passport on the train between Germany and Denmark, but I think a few years ago I didn't for ferries between Finland and Sweden and Estonia. Obviously if there isn't a hard border then a passport is unnecessary in practice.
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Since the refugee "crisis" there are a bit more of those random checks, in theory it is moving from Schengen to Schengen, so often there are none...

Brum said:
In Britain most people just use their driving license or provisional license as their ID, it's generally accepted everywhere, from opening a bank account, through to proof of age, and anything else in between. I know it's the only ID my friend has to show to get back to Northern Ireland for instance, and e can also use it to cross into Ireland proper as well as he has no passport. He's Irish by the way, that's wy I'm using im as an example due to his frequent trips home.
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ok, interesting. Driving licenses are also valid ID's within the Netherlands, but apart from a passport many people have and ID card, which is valid for travel throughout Europe (and we are officially not allowed to travel to Germany on a drivers license, though I know a case where it was accepted by the border police....).
 
Brum said:
In Britain most people just use their driving license or provisional license as their ID, it's generally accepted everywhere, from opening a bank account, through to proof of age, and anything else in between. I know it's the only ID my friend has to show to get back to Northern Ireland for instance, and he can also use it to cross into Ireland proper as well as he has no passport. He's Irish by the way, that's why I'm using him as an example due to his frequent trips home.
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There is an agreement in place where you can travel to Ireland on drivers licences (if you don't have a passport) I have done it quite a few years ago.

Obviosuly that will probably change post leaving the EU.
 
taun said:
Obviosuly that will probably change post leaving the EU.
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I think that having a hard border with Ireland is something the UK and Ireland are both against, it's (one small) part of why Brexit negotiations are taking so long as the EU are being insistent on having border controls in place!
 
Just wondering to you Brits out there: what is the cause of Brexit?
 
ZooBinh said:
Just wondering to you Brits out there: what is the cause of Brexit?
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Brum said:
I think that having a hard border with Ireland is something the UK and Ireland are both against, it's (one small) part of why Brexit negotiations are taking so long as the EU are being insistent on having border controls in place!
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More specifically, the EU is insistent on there being a customs border between the UK and the EU, whilst at the same time being insistent that such a border will not be between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

I await someone else's 'Even more specifically'!
 
FunkyGibbon said:
More specifically, the EU is insistent on there being a customs border between the UK and the EU, whilst at the same time being insistent that such a border will not be between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
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This is why I love ZooChat, there' always something new to learn, and it's not all animal-related. I never realised there was more to it than just the EU being arsey! ;)
 
FunkyGibbon said:
More specifically, the EU is insistent on there being a customs border between the UK and the EU, whilst at the same time being insistent that such a border will not be between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

I await someone else's 'Even more specifically'!
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A hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland would potentially blow up the good friday accords, so that is rather unacceptable. The UK insists on leaving the single market (fortunately it has never been part of the Schengen area), as they don't want free movement of people. For the EU this is tied to the free movement of goods, so there we go...
 
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