Burgers' Zoo Burgers' Zoo news 2025

[JurassicMax]

four male Gorillas will be sent to China these days.

the number of remaining females is six

They have left the zoo today and have been send to Hongshan Forest Zoo. The males will be on breeding loan, Hongshan Forest Zoo hopes to establish a breeding group in the future.

Source:
Instagram of Burgers' Zoo (08/02/2025)

 

[PossumRoach]

They have left the zoo today and have been send to Hongshan Forest Zoo. The males will be on breeding loan, Hongshan Forest Zoo hopes to establish a breeding group in the future.

Source:
Instagram of Burgers' Zoo (08/02/2025)

I could see some people getting mad at this just like the time some people weren’t happy about Mysore/Mysuru getting new gorillas years after their Polo passed on. I see this as a better choice than castrating or euthanizing the surplus male goris.

 

[Kifaru Bwana]

They have left the zoo today and have been send to Hongshan Forest Zoo. The males will be on breeding loan, Hongshan Forest Zoo hopes to establish a breeding group in the future.

Source:
Instagram of Burgers' Zoo (08/02/2025)

Hongshan Forest Zoo is actually quite a good zoo and very forward-thinking within the CAZA zoo community.

 

[Raikou]

Hongshan Forest Zoo is actually quite a good zoo and very forward-thinking within the CAZA zoo community.

Hmmm...the true level of this zoo may not be as good as their marketing team.

 

[Kifaru Bwana]

Hmmm...the true level of this zoo may not be as good as their marketing team.

Care to elaborate ... in PM/DM?
(This really belongs in the PR China Hongshan Forest Zoo thread)

 

[Pertinax]

They have left the zoo today and have been send to Hongshan Forest Zoo. The males will be on breeding loan, Hongshan Forest Zoo hopes to establish a breeding group in the future.

Source:
Instagram of Burgers' Zoo (08/02/2025)

I think 'breeding loan' is a sort of euphamism that just encompasses the many aspects of husbandry including formation of this male group. Even if /when they get females they would only need one male for the group, the others would stay bachelors. But it sounds better of course.

Meanwhile Burgers have their 6 females who from the video I saw, look a bit restless and unsure now the males have left. Hopefully a new male will arrive shortly. I'm thinking which one it might be...

 

[Kifaru Bwana]

I think 'breeding loan' is a sort of euphamism that just encompasses the many aspects of husbandry including formation of this male group. Even if /when they get females they would only need one male for the group, the others would stay bachelors. But it sounds better of course.

Meanwhile Burgers have their 6 females who from the video I saw, look a bit restless and unsure now the males have left. Hopefully a new male will arrive shortly. I'm thinking which one it might be...

However, You will look at it this transfer is part and parcel of the EEP ex situ conservation breeding program. Hence, it is not unusual to cite this transfer as "a breeding loan". The Burger's Zoo gorilla group will see more changes ... now and the females' in the group will - I assume - be part of a new family group.

When were the last youngsters born (given that the introduction of a new silverback must account for the fact no females have very young babies or those not yet able to resist the new zilverback's aggression towards outsiders or potential competition for the females in his group?

 

[Pertinax]

When were the last youngsters born (given that the introduction of a new silverback must account for the fact no females have very young babies or those not yet able to resist the new zilverback's aggression towards outsiders or potential competition for the females in his group?

Last births I can find were in 2013 and there are no infants currently(afaik). So they can bring in the new male quickly. Unlike the remainder of the group at Rotterdam where there is still a small male baby, though they are destined to leave at some stage anyway.

 

[Kifaru Bwana]

Last births I can find were in 2013 and there are no infants currently(afaik). So they can bring in the new male quickly. Unlike the remainder of the group at Rotterdam where there is still a small male baby, though they are destined to leave at some stage anyway.

Thanks for confirming. I was already under the impression that the EEP within the next few months will recommend a new silverback and perhaps 1-2 younger female gorillas or already have a new silverback lined up for this group. As per usual, Burgers' Zoo will not comment nor publicise their plans or arrangements before that new silverback is at the zoo itself.

 

[lintworm]

Unsurprising, but still sad, elephant Pinky was euthanized today, aged 59. She had lived in the zoo for over 43 years. Her health did significantly deteriorate in recent weeks, so the decision was made to keep her from suffering more.

Burgers' Zoo laat 59-jarige olifant inslapen | Burgers' Zoo in Arnhem

 

[Mr Gharial]

Some updates from my visit a few days ago:

- In the Bush, a new Madagascar crested ibis has arrived, so they are once again a breeding pair.

- Also in the Bush, multiple Asian leaf turtles have hatched and can be seen in the enclosure.


- They're expecting baby Capybara's soon. Not pregnant, I should add. But there have been a lot of mating attempts.

- Renovations on the Panther plaza have started, and most of the exterior of the building have been removed.


- The pheasantry is completely gone and the path has been reopened. They put up a new fence and a few shrubs have been planted to hide the open space. Kind of a shame if you ask me since that means they won't be starting construction on something new any time soon...


- The Gorillas were all indoors because there were new climbing structures being installed into their enclosure.

 

[HectOr]

Are the golden-bellied mangabeys still at the zoo? I might visit in May and I’d be interested to know if there’s a slight possibility they might return on show (or if they’re semi-visible from a backstage area)

 

[Panda_Fan]

Are the golden-bellied mangabeys still at the zoo? I might visit in May and I’d be interested to know if there’s a slight possibility they might return on show (or if they’re semi-visible from a backstage area)

The last report at zootierliste says that on March of 2023 they saw a single male and two specimens with unspecified sex, and they were signed.

 

[Chlidonias]

The last report at zootierliste says that on March of 2023 they saw a single male and two specimens with unspecified sex, and they were signed.

If someone is asking if a zoo has a species currently on show, saying that they had them two years ago is not actually helpful. (And the date on ZTL says March 2022 not 2023 - so it is three years ago)

I realise that you are trying to be useful, but if you don't know something then just leave it - you don't need to post answers to things you don't know. It just causes confusion when people guess at things.

 

[Père Damian's Deer]

Are the golden-bellied mangabeys still at the zoo? I might visit in May and I’d be interested to know if there’s a slight possibility they might return on show (or if they’re semi-visible from a backstage area)

On my visit in september they were behind the scenes unfortunately and I don’t think anything has changed as of now.

 

[ralph]

They were already off-show when I was there in 2024

 

[Panda_Fan]

If someone is asking if a zoo has a species currently on show, saying that they had them two years ago is not actually helpful. (And the date on ZTL says March 2022 not 2023 - so it is three years ago)

I realise that you are trying to be useful, but if you don't know something then just leave it - you don't need to post answers to things you don't know. It just causes confusion when people guess at things.

I understand. Sorry for any confusion, next I'll only respond to this type of questions if I have recent information. Thanks for correcting me with the year, that's my bad . And again, sorry for anyone that I confused.

 

[Mr Gharial]

Are the golden-bellied mangabeys still at the zoo? I might visit in May and I’d be interested to know if there’s a slight possibility they might return on show (or if they’re semi-visible from a backstage area)

They have been off-show for a while, but I did see them a few times in the backstage area behind the Sri Lankan leopard enclosure. You can see that at the entrance of the Rimba region, but I don't know if they're still there or if they'll be visible

 

[lintworm]

Are the golden-bellied mangabeys still at the zoo? I might visit in May and I’d be interested to know if there’s a slight possibility they might return on show (or if they’re semi-visible from a backstage area)

The pair should still be in the cage @Mr. Gharial described as far as I am aware. Because a new gate was placed they are now harder to see from the entrance to the Rimba. But you can get a good view of the cage from within the Rimba itself. Next to the signs about the IUCN red list (opposite the deer, banteng, macaque paddock) you can view the 2 backstage cages from the leopard house reasonably well, the mangabeys are in the left cage. With some patience they are usually pretty easy to see as long as the weather is good, though binoculars might be handy.

The original plan was for them to move back with the gorillas once the male gorillas had moved, this move has now taken place and there has been some construction work on the gorilla island, so they might move back on show, but plans can have changed. You will probably read it here once they move back, if they ever do.

 

[Mr Gharial]

The pair should still be in the cage @Mr. Gharial described as far as I am aware. Because a new gate was placed they are now harder to see from the entrance to the Rimba. But you can get a good view of the cage from within the Rimba itself. Next to the signs about the IUCN red list (opposite the deer, banteng, macaque paddock) you can view the 2 backstage cages from the leopard house reasonably well, the mangabeys are in the left cage. With some patience they are usually pretty easy to see as long as the weather is good, though binoculars might be handy.

From Rimba entrance:


From opposite Banteng/deer enclosure: