Not to be pedantic but Martha is the oldest Bornean in Europe (well, joint oldest with Silvia from Apenhuel). Bella (Sumatran, also only remaining wild-born Sumatran in Europe) from Hagenbeck is the oldest Orangutan in Europe at the grand age of 56
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Is Martha really the oldest Orangutan in Europe now? That means all the ones from the 1960's era that I knew well must now be dead, the female Sumatran Djambi at Frankfurt being one of them and she died just recently. I remember Martha and her partner Kimbu when they first arrived at Chester and lived in the enclosure next to the kitchen in the (original) Monkey House, before later moving to the Orangutan building..
The zoo now has five cheetahs, three males (Matra, Singha and Burba) and two females (Kinky-Tail and Adaeze).
Komodo99
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What happened to Safi?
Is there any future plans to use the other jaguar enclosure were the male Andean bear currently is, would be nice to see a new species in there or a breeding pair of jaguars as napo and goshi don't look like there going to breed, alsodoes anyone know why the zoo have brought a male tiger in to pair with there female
Komodo99
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Tigers-not a chance for now as Kirana's genes are too represented throughout Europe's gene pool.The zoo has'nt had a male tiger since last year since Fabi moved out and the male cubs from 2015 where moved out last year.
The Hedgehog
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Any updates on the elephants giraffes or big cats,departures,ariveals,deaths or births?
Komodo99
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Not sure at the moment.
The Hedgehog
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Could someone please answer my questions?
Has there been any arrivals deaths birth departures amunkt the Elephants,Big cats,giraffes. If so what is the animal in question called what's thier age and if arrived where from and if departed where to?
I appreciate you've recently found ZooChat and you're very enthusiastic but you don't enhance the site or your own reputation by bombarding the forums with a multitude of generalised questions.
As up to date information as is generally publicly available and observed by members will already be on this site and you'd do better "mining" the site for information before carpet bombing it with questions.
More focused questions will probably lead to better responses for you. Can you imagine going on a football forum and saying, "does anyone know of any players rumoured to be coming in or going out?" -the information would already be on the forum.
You're not the first to make this "mistake" in etiquette and you won't be the last -I'm just trying to make the forum (and your reputation) better.
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Coming across stroppy like this won't help your cause either.
How would you feel if someone knocked on your door and asked, "who's moved in on your street?, when?, where they from? who's moved out? when?, how old is everybody?, when have people died? Would you answer them in detail (even if you knew) or shut the door?
Whereas asking when and where one specific person/animal's from might elicit a response.*
*Don't, for a moment, think this means you should post separate questions about every singe animal from a group at a zoo to get what you want.
It would not win you any friends.
The outdoor enclosures and the offshow dens.
I find the best place for a decent coffee at Chester is the jaguar coffee houseNot A Review
I've just visited Chester three times so allowed myself time to observe what I wanted to see rather than rush around trying to cover everything. So this isn't a review of the zoo but just some subjective comments:
Entrance - I must have only visited on fine days before. On Thursday morning it was tipping down and I realised that the poor staff at the ticket barriers have to stand around in the cold and wet. Whatever were the designers thinking
Himalayan Monal - I appreciate that they like 'forests' but oh, wouldn't it be nice to get more than a tiny, tantalising glimpse of them.
Sun Bears - one was outside and looked really good in the new enclosure. Very impressive.
Bornean Orangs - On one visit, I was able to greet Martha close-up as she was sitting in a hammock near one of the viewing windows. A rare treat according to the helpful volunteer. The oldest orang in Europe with one of the youngest not far away. Tombol has started to practice climbing on the netting with Sarikei keeping a close eye on him. Sarikei and Tombol were always on the upper area at the back of the right-hand den and a combination of Willie, Martha and Leia in the same place in the middle den. I realise that it's their lives and they've chosen to rest there, but the impression given is of a rather monochrome still life picture or a dusty old museum exhibit. There is no colour, variation or brightness indoors at all. Maybe the orangs don't care and aren't stimulated by colour. I'm sure that Chester are orang experts anyway.
Sumatran Orangs - I was slightly worried to see Subis and Tutti regurgitating and re-ingesting, with Siska looking on and learning. I've not noticed them doing this before. I'm still not 100% sure of IDs, but as this was one female accompanied by two infants I've gone for mother and daughters.
Food and drink - I expect to pay over the odds for food at zoos when I'm away from home, but a bit of quality in return would be good. I had one of the worst sandwiches I've ever experienced in June's Food Court, along with a vile cappuccino. Is there nowhere selling filtered coffee in the zoo? Town centres are full of real coffee shops so there is clearly a demand, not least from me and Mr Gigit!
- How nice to have staff making friendly eye contact rather than being glued to their phones while 'out in the wild'.
- I was very disappointed to have to miss Dr Ian Singleton's SOS talk on Wednesday evening. Having spent 2 hours in gridlock between the zoo and hotel earlier (normally a 15 minute drive at the most) and with an almost empty tank, we didn't dare venture out again. Did anybody go?
- Only a tenuous zoo link, but there's an excellent sculpture exhibition called 'Ark' on at the Cathedral and this, imho, is the best piece - Stubbs (Absorbed) by Michael Joo. (I'll put the photo in the Chester gallery)
Zebra sculpture, September 2017 | ZooChat
When chester brought in there female lionesses, I assumed they would be part of the European Breeding Programme, does anyone know why they haven’t had offspring since being at the zoo. I remember the times that Asoka and Asha had cubs and there seemed to be a lot more attention paid to the lion enclosure. maybe they could try a new male to help the breeding programme
Only one of the two females is able to breed, though it was nonetheless hoped that she would have cubs. However, breeding big cats is not simply a matter of putting a male and a female together, and for various reasons Iblis and Kumari have never produced offspring.
A new male could help, although the females are now both 10 years old. While it's not beyond the realms of possibility for a lioness to have a first litter at that age, successful breeding lionesses tend to have their first litter at 3-5 years of age.
I'm not sure this statement is accurate. Generally speaking, the presence of cubs in big cat exhibits *does* attract more attention, but none of Asoka and Asha's cubs were particularly visible: all either did not survive beyond a few months or were hand-reared, and therefore off-show for the majority of the time.
zoogiraffe
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Sorry if this might offend but I cannot hold my tongue any more from all the question that are to me pointless.In answer to your question as to why the Lions haven't bred when you find out can you let the zoo know as well,as they have no idea why they haven't either!
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