Exhibits Zoos Are Lacking In

Great Argus said:
Transparency would be good, although the zoos themselves may not be the ones at fault. Depending on countries and agencies involved, money is likely getting funneled off as it works towards its final destination. It's not an uncommon situation in many aspects, not just conservation unfortunately. I'm not saying the zoos themselves are innocent of it, but more to the effect of they may not be the ones typically responsible for how little gets through
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A major example is the Giant Panda loans. Supposedly half goes to charity but we have no idea what the rest goes. That's scary, especially with the Chinese government and their human rights issues. I don't like the thought of us getting pandas in exchange for funding for Hong Kong police or funding for the Uyghur education areas. This isn't the same as directors raising their own paychecks in exchange for less conservation but it's still an example of how governments can funnel money out of zoological issues.
 
Westcoastperson said:
A major example is the Giant Panda loans. Supposedly half goes to charity but we have no idea what the rest goes. That's scary, especially with the Chinese government and their human rights issues. I don't like the thought of us getting pandas in exchange for funding for Hong Kong police or funding for the Uyghur education areas. This isn't the same as directors raising their own paychecks in exchange for less conservation but it's still an example of how governments can funnel money out of zoological issues.
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Given the loans are about million a year, and 4 zoos in the US have had them for many a year, that's a lot of money in China's pocket. Let alone across the world. Though diplomatic pandas may be exempt from the loan fee? Seems like they ought to be.
 
Great Argus said:
Given the loans are about million a year, and 4 zoos in the US have had them for many a year, that's a lot of money in China's pocket. Let alone across the world. Though diplomatic pandas may be exempt from the loan fee? Seems like they ought to be.
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HAHA. The Chinese government giving something to America for free? Maybe Europe but America? Oh no that's not how they do things.
 
I think more zoos should have insectariums. It would really help spread awareness of the diversity and importance of arthropods (because let’s face it: your average person’s understanding of arthropods starts and ends with “ew bugs”), and it would definitely be a good thing to have more captive breeding populations of threatened invertebrates. Plus due to their small size, a relatively small facility can keep and breed a relatively large number of species of arthropods and other small invertebrates.
 
The Cassowary said:
I think more zoos should have insectariums. It would really help spread awareness of the diversity and importance of arthropods (because let’s face it: your average person’s understanding of arthropods starts and ends with “ew bugs”), and it would definitely be a good thing to have more captive breeding populations of threatened invertebrates. Plus due to their small size, a relatively small facility can keep and breed a relatively large number of species of arthropods and other small invertebrates.
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I couldn't agree more, it is definitely something we need more of. Where done, it makes for an exceptional showcase and educational experience. At the Saint Louis zoo, for example, I find the Insectarium is often more crowded than areas such as red rocks or even rivers edge
 
I would Love to See some Island Exhibits that are Not only south east Asia but i will include a south east Asia area in the Exhibit.

Species list


Subantarctic Islands

Kings Penguin
Gentoo penguin
Adelie penguin
Flightless steaming Duck
Southern Elephant Seal




Arctic islands

Arctic grouse
Arctic tern
Razorbill
Atlantic puffin
Northern gannet
Arctic hare
Reindeer
Musk ox
Arctic fox
Polar bear


British Islands


Willow ptarmigan
Grey seal
Harbour seal
Wildcat



Mediteraneum

Mediteranean Moray eel
European chameleon
Ocetalled lizard
Stone partridge
Greater flamingo
European bee eater
Glossy ibis
Gennete
European mouflon
Wild goat
Mediteranean Monk seal



Carribean Islands,
Cuban crocodile
Grand Cayman Blue iguana
Carribean Flamingo
Several Amazon Parrot species
Hutia



Galapagos
Galapagos Tortoise
Marine Iguana
Land iguana
Galapagos lizard
Galapagos snake
Flightless cormorant
Darwins finches different species
Galapagos penguin
Galapagos sea lion

Papua neu Guinea


Saltwater crocodile
Freshwater crocodile
Green tree Monitor
Green tree python
Pig nosed turtle
Greater Bird of paradise
Satin bowerbird
Cassowary all species
Tree kangaroo different species including dingiso
Spotted cuscus
Short and Long Beaked echidna
Neu Guinea singing dog

Madagaskar and seychelles

Aldabra Tortoise
Radiated Tortoise
Leaf nose snake
Madagaskar boa
Panthers chameleon
Giant day gecko
Madagaskar iguana
Cave crocodile
Pitta Like ground roller
Madagaskar drongo
Madagaskar eagle
Vasa Parrot both Species
All lemurs including aye aye and indri
Fossa
Striped and aquatic tenrec
Ring Tailed mongoose
Fanalooc


Japan

Japanese Giant Salamander
Red crowned crane
Japanese Sika deer
Japanese serow
Japanese red faced maqaque
Japanese Brown bear


South east asia

Archerfish
Mudskipper
Giant stingray
Gliding tree frog
Reticulated python
Tomistoma
Philipine crocodile
Komodo dragon
Sailfin lizard
Bali mynah and many other passerines
Pheasant pigeon
Adjutant stork
Babirusa
Bornean bearded pig
Bornean rhino and Elephant
Malayan tapir
Orang utan and several gibbon Species
Clouded leopard
Golden cat
Sumatran Tiger
 
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The Cassowary said:
I think more zoos should have insectariums. It would really help spread awareness of the diversity and importance of arthropods (because let’s face it: your average person’s understanding of arthropods starts and ends with “ew bugs”), and it would definitely be a good thing to have more captive breeding populations of threatened invertebrates. Plus due to their small size, a relatively small facility can keep and breed a relatively large number of species of arthropods and other small invertebrates.
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Yes, totally agree with you on that.

I think these are really important areas of zoos in terms of education and conservation too.

I recently did a post on Bristol zoo's invert collection and the conservation / education work they are doing there.

You might find it interesting as I copied and pasted a couple of interviews from Zooquaria with their invert curator about these things and some of his answers were quite illuminating.

Bristol Zoo invertebrate conservation
 
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Westcoastperson said:
A major example is the Giant Panda loans. Supposedly half goes to charity but we have no idea what the rest goes. That's scary, especially with the Chinese government and their human rights issues. I don't like the thought of us getting pandas in exchange for funding for Hong Kong police or funding for the Uyghur education areas. This isn't the same as directors raising their own paychecks in exchange for less conservation but it's still an example of how governments can funnel money out of zoological issues.
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It may not go to anything as sinister as re-education camps or to fund police brutality in Hong Kong.

It could well go to something just as mediocre as feedback loops of bureaucracy or lining the pockets of a couple of fat cats in the central comittee of the communist party.

What is for sure is that only a tiny fraction of all the money generated from "Pandanomics" is actually going to giant panda conservation whether in-situ or ex-situ that much is a given.

For me that is just as frustrating and disappointing.
 
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