Exotic reptiles seized in yet another drug bust
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They all have very large water bowls - 4.2litres, and those I have together have two bowls. I clean them and fill them the day before I leave. They last a month quite well. Of course, if I was to go in summer when I'm feeding them and it's warm/hot, that would be a different story.
Hix
Hix
They all have very large water bowls - 4.2litres, and those I have together have two bowls. I clean them and fill them the day before I leave. They last a month quite well. Of course, if I was to go in summer when I'm feeding them and it's warm/hot, that would be a different story.
Hix
They are very good size water bowls .
If you placed them well away from any basking lamps you shouldn't lose too much water by evaporation.
A month or so away, in the winter, should be easily achievable with the species that Hix keeps - particularly if none if his specimens are in the habit of defecating in their water bowl.
oh there so has to be a joke about marriage from that line!!
As Steve mentioned there are other factors to consider such as species, husbandry, enclosure, heating etc. Hix's scenario may work fine for him but may not apply to others, the extreme example would be if you were to keep Green Tree Pythons.
Depending on your personal husbandry practices and the species you keep the time you could be absent would vary. Reptiles are good at limiting water loss through excretion, so water is not the major concern for me personally.
Nanoboy, for me reptiles have always been a fascination and for me there are challenges I would like to face, different species, breeding and possibly study some aspect of husbandry scientifically. But I guess it is like anything, people do it because they like it. I expect it is very much the same as why people visit the reptile house at the zoo, they can't interact with them but there is that interest and intrigue about it. So for me I am driven by my interest and my search to develop my knowledge and experience. Chlidonias comment has merit too
Cheers
Daniel
Depending on your personal husbandry practices and the species you keep the time you could be absent would vary. Reptiles are good at limiting water loss through excretion, so water is not the major concern for me personally.
Nanoboy, for me reptiles have always been a fascination and for me there are challenges I would like to face, different species, breeding and possibly study some aspect of husbandry scientifically. But I guess it is like anything, people do it because they like it. I expect it is very much the same as why people visit the reptile house at the zoo, they can't interact with them but there is that interest and intrigue about it. So for me I am driven by my interest and my search to develop my knowledge and experience. Chlidonias comment has merit too
Cheers
Daniel
In winter, because I cool them, they don't have a heat source (although the house has ducted heating, so the room gets to around 24ºC during the day and down to about 17º at night. So evaporation isn't really a problem. The lights I use are compact fluros which don't generate a lot of heat, but the bowls are at the other end of the enclosure anyway.
And as I don't feed during winter, defecating in their bowls isn't a really a problem either.
Hix
Sounds ideal. Two months away would be a real possibility.
Do you keep the ducted heating going when you are away?
Do you keep the ducted heating going when you are away?
nanoboy
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Nanoboy, for me reptiles have always been a fascination and for me there are challenges I would like to face, different species, breeding and possibly study some aspect of husbandry scientifically. But I guess it is like anything, people do it because they like it. I expect it is very much the same as why people visit the reptile house at the zoo, they can't interact with them but there is that interest and intrigue about it. So for me I am driven by my interest and my search to develop my knowledge and experience. Chlidonias comment has merit too
Cheers
Daniel
No, that's cool. I wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth rather than make an assumption. You are not taking animals from the wild, and you are not abusing them, so it's all good. I was just curious about the attraction to keeping an animal like that, as compared to a cat or dog or parrot. I like cuddles.
Which legally available snake is at the top of your wish-list?
No, I don't. It hasn't caused any problems yet, but it's something I'm aware of and keep in mind.
Hix
Nanoboy, a lot of people have the same curiosity about reptile keeping and it varies for other people. There are definitely people out there who do it to try and make money or for the shock value but most of those keepers don't stay in the hobby long, once the novelty wears off or they find their "great money making scheme" isn't adding up how they thought. There are also the keepers who do form an anthropomorphized relationship with their animals and "cuddle" their pythons most days of the week, while I definitely don't fit that category I give my beardies sunlight 4-5 days a week for the Vit D so I do still get contact with my animals.
I personally think reptiles keepers would fit closely even with bird keepers with the amount of contact when you examine companion birds through to strictly aviary animals. Reptile keepers would factor much higher than fish keepers as well. But yes most people don't have an interest in reptiles which is fine
For your question I have more of a list than a single species but I narrowed it down to top three JUST snake species and JUST natural forms not morphs, GTP's narrowly missed the cut. My wish list is big
1) Arafura Filesnake
2) Oenpelli Python
3) Bandy Bandy
I'd be interested to know what other members would have under the same parameters, Hix and Steve especially?
I personally think reptiles keepers would fit closely even with bird keepers with the amount of contact when you examine companion birds through to strictly aviary animals. Reptile keepers would factor much higher than fish keepers as well. But yes most people don't have an interest in reptiles which is fine
For your question I have more of a list than a single species
but I narrowed it down to top three JUST snake species and JUST natural forms not morphs, GTP's narrowly missed the cut. My wish list is big 1) Arafura Filesnake
2) Oenpelli Python
3) Bandy Bandy
I'd be interested to know what other members would have under the same parameters, Hix and Steve especially?
I'd like a filesnake too, they are great.
Aren't bandy-bandys largely fossorial though? They wouldn't make very interesting captives if that is the case. (I think bandy-bandy is probably the snake I'd most like to see wild in Australia because they are lovely).
Aren't bandy-bandys largely fossorial though? They wouldn't make very interesting captives if that is the case. (I think bandy-bandy is probably the snake I'd most like to see wild in Australia because they are lovely).
My wish list is big
1) Arafura Filesnake
2) Oenpelli Python
3) Bandy Bandy
I'd be interested to know what other members would have under the same parameters, Hix and Steve especially?
I am not interested in morphs at all so my wish list is simple:
1 Central Australian form of the Mulga Snake.
2 Reticulated Python
3 Green Anaconda
What would you feed your Bandy Bandy on?
While I'm not usually particularly interested in morphs, top of my list would be:
Hix
- Hypo Bredls
- Green Tree Snake (ideally Blue, but I'd probably settle for a Central Australian gold form)
- Night Tiger (Katherine form "Candy Cane")
- Uluru Woma
Hix
Not unusual to see in the wild if you are in the right place at the right time - usually at night, or after heavy rain when the rising water table brings them to the surface.
They are very beautiful snake but most people are surprised at how small they are.
Chlidonias, filesnakes are awesome, bandy bandy's aren't terribly hard to find if you spend enough time looking, their defense display of raising a body loop is a great behaviour display.
Steve, I know both Venom Supplies and Sonia Dewdney from the Australian Reptile Research and Breeding Centre keep Bandy Bandy's, other people may have them as well. Sonia I believe has bred them and has gotten them onto pinkie legs and tails I believe, but they do definitely have difficult feeding requirements but some people manage to do it. the website is reptileresearch.com. I'm not sure if I would attempt to keep them in the future even if I could get a hold of them. retics and anacondas would be right up there for my hypothetical exotic list
Hix, night tigers are also on my list amazing species.
Nanoboy, the average joe could get them in Australia because they are here but not through legal means.
Cheers,
Daniel
Steve, I know both Venom Supplies and Sonia Dewdney from the Australian Reptile Research and Breeding Centre keep Bandy Bandy's, other people may have them as well. Sonia I believe has bred them and has gotten them onto pinkie legs and tails I believe, but they do definitely have difficult feeding requirements but some people manage to do it. the website is reptileresearch.com. I'm not sure if I would attempt to keep them in the future even if I could get a hold of them. retics and anacondas would be right up there for my hypothetical exotic list
Hix, night tigers are also on my list amazing species.
Nanoboy, the average joe could get them in Australia because they are here but not through legal means.
Cheers,
Daniel
just to clarify that for nanoboy, the anacondas and other exotics can be obtained illegally, while (most of) the native snakes can be kept by anyone with a relevant permit (different states have different requirements, e.g. in Tasmania you can only keep the herptiles native to Tasmania and there are restrictions on where you can/can't collect them, and a few species are not allowed to be caught or kept).crocodile_dan said:
my top Australian herptiles I'd like to find are bandy-bandy, moloch, turtle frog and corroboree frog. Turtle frog tops the listSteve Robinson said: