Great Hoof-Stock/Antelope Enclosures/Collection

As to why the consolidation (not just hoofstock, but many classes of animals) it is to sustain long term breeding programs. For the genetic diversity to maintain herds into the future, you have to have a large number, which requires multiple zoos working with any given species.

As to what incentive there would be for people to travel to zoos, you seem to be under the misconception that us ZooChat fanatics represent the general public. I can guarantee you that (outside of this website) hardly anyone plans their vacations around zoo visits. Zoos generally cater to local or regional visitors, which is in fact their demographic.
 
i have changed my mind on the hoofstock collection for my future zoo here is the list, its a tad more modest and un-ambitious, please tell me what you think of this collection idea

ELK GROTTOS-

Fallow deer
Persian fallow deer
Axis deer
Barasingha
Elds deer
Pere david's deer
Hog deer
Calamian deer
Bawean deer
Malayan sambar
Javan rusa
Visayan spotted deer
Thorolds deer
Elk
Bactrian deer
Altai wapiti
Barbary red deer
Manchurian sika deer
Mandarin sika deer
Vietnamese sika deer
Formosan sika deer

MUNTJAC GROTTOS-

Tufted deer
Reeves muntjac
Indian muntjac
Chinese water deer
Siberian musk deer

BUFFALO GROTTOS-

Asian water buffalo
Lowland anoa
Mountain anoa
Javan banteng
Gaur
Gayal
Domestic yak
European bison
Plains bison
Wood bison
Cape buffalo
African forest buffalo
Watusi cattle

CAMEL GROTTOS-

Dromedary camel
Bactrian camel
Guanaco
Llama
Alpaca
Vicuna

HORSE GROTTOS-

Prezwalskis horse
Kiang
Persian onager
Somali wild ass
Grants zebra
Hartmanns mountain zebra
Grevys zebra
Chapmans zebra
Damara zebra

GAZELLE GROTTOS-

Springbok
Blackbuck
Gerenuk
Grants gazelle
Mhorr gazelle
Addra gazelle
Soemmerrings gazelle
Red fronted gazelle
Thomsons gazelle
Cuviers gazelle
Slender horned gazelle
Dorcas gazelle
Goitered gazelle
Spekes gazelle
Saiga

DEER GROTTOS-

Pampas deer
Marsh deer
Mule deer
White tailed deer
Southern pudu
Woodland caribou
Red brocket
Gray brocket
Roe deer

GORAL GROTTOS-

Rocky mountain goat
Central chinese goral
Japanese serow
Alpine chamois

ORYX GROTTOS-

Addax
Sable antelope
Roan antelope
Beisa oryx
Fringe eared oryx
Gemsbok
Arabian oryx
Scimitar horned oryx

SHEEP GROTTOS-

Dalls sheep
Desert bighorn sheep
Rocky mountain bighorn sheep
Siberian bighorn sheep
Armenian mouflon
European mouflon
Transcaspian urial
Afghan urial
Aoudad
Bharal

IBEX GROTTOS-

Alpine ibex
Siberian ibex
Spanish ibex
Nubian ibex
West caucasian tur
East caucasian tur
Himalayan tahr
Nilgiri tahr
Cretan wild goat
Tadjik markhor
Sichuan takin
Mishmi takin
Golden takin
Musk ox

KUDU GROTTOS-

Nilgai
Chousingha
Common eland
Giant eland
Nyala
Lowland bongo
Mountain bongo
Sitatunga
Bushbuck
Greater kudu
Lesser kudu

IMPALA GROTTOS-

Common impala
Black faced impala
Defassa waterbuck
Elippsen waterbuck
Uganda kob
Nile lechwe
Red lechwe
Kafue lechwe
Mountain reedbuck
Vaal rhebok

WILDEBEEST GROTTOS-

Topi
Bontebok
Blesbok
Blue wildebeest
Black wildebeest
Hartebeest
Hirola
Red hartebeest

DIK DIK GROTTOS-

Royal antelope
Suni
Gunthers dik dik
Cavendishs dik dik
Klipspringer
Oribi
Steenbok

DUIKER GROTTOS-

Yellow backed duiker
Jentinks duiker
Black duiker
Zebra duiker
Red flanked duiker
Red forest duiker
Blue duiker
Maxwells duiker
Common duiker
Bay duiker

GIRAFFE GROTTOS-

Giraffe
Okapi
Pronghorn

CHEVROTAIN HOUSE-

Greater malay chevrotain
Lesser malay chevrotain

RHINO GROTTOS-

Indian rhino
Sumatran rhino
Southern white rhino
Eastern black rhino

TAPIR GROTTOS-

Bairds tapir
Mountain tapir
Malayan tapir
Brazilian tapir

HIPPO GROTTOS-

River hippo
Pygmy hippo

PIG GROTTOS-

Common warthog
Desert warthog
Southern bush pig
Red river hog
Visayan warty pig
Bornean bearded pig
Central european wild boar
North sulawesi babirusa

PECCARY GROTTOS-

Collared peccary
White lipped peccary
Chacoan peccary

I found 752 acres down the street from my aunts house for this collection i plan on exhibeting
if you could be so kind as to tell me what you think of this collection, id love feedback
thanks :)

here is a link to this other park i am planning on building http://www.facebook.com/pages/Build-this-zoo-Fairview-Park-Zoo/303263936368288
 
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Bad new guys. Birmingham Zoo lost their greater kudu and their sitatunga. They went to another zoo. Their "hoofstock" collection now consists of giraffes, zebra, and one thompson gazelle. And they decided to give all the new Trails part 2 space to the elephants/guest amenities instead of new hoofstock space.
 
@ tschandler71, what kind of zebra ??? a hartmaans mountain, Damara, Chapmans, Grants, or Grevys

and animals come fist in my book, so elephant space i could understand, but guest ammenities, REALLY ???

in my opinion hoofstock should fill the space, like maybe get a blackbuck, armenian mouflon, takin or something because i really miss diverse hoofstock collections

my fondest memories at the san diego zoo were in horn and hoof mesa, i remember on my last trip to the san diego zoo, eating a veggie burger at sabertooth grill and litteraly crying and telling my mom that we were sitting in the old giraffe paddock

like i said, we need to some how do something about this, phasing out of hoofstock isnt right, i dont care if the general public dosnt find them interesting, a zoo is supposed to show the guests what animals are interesting not indulge there moans and cries and ignorant opinions !
 
Well see if you go to the website you will the the elephant layout that opened this year. Phase 2 was supposed to be opening in the spring and would feature expanded yards for the hoofstock etc. I went today and the Kudu (my favorite) are gone. The keeper said they went to another zoo and there are no plans to add another species. This a zoo that a decade ago had gemsbok nyala grants gazelle tommy gazelle kudu sitatunga and topi. Now I know they lost most of that when they lost AZA accredidation back in 2000 (they have it now) but I guess it is an AZA thing as far as space goes.

Biggest crowd I have ever seen at the zoo and it was new years eve (it helps that it was beautiful today). Anyway, the lone thompson was in the Kudu pen and there ARE NO PLANS TO REPLACE. Serious folks, do zoos get pecking order on animals. It seems like every time we get something cool it goes to a bigger zoo.

The Zebra are common Grant's Zebra.

The new All bull herd is great and helps with attendence but that the expense of other species?
 
ungulate nerd said:
were they lesser kudu or greater kudu ?
and btw i would really love to see those other ungualtes come back !!!
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It was a male and female kudu with a 1 year old female baby. ISIS says that the male is still at Birmingham though just not on exhibit. I wish there was a "hotsheet" for the zoo industry so I would know where animals leave/go.

I still haven't figured out which Zoo that Ricko the black rhino went to.
 
Reid park zoo-

Reticulated giraffe
Grevys zebra
Llama
Visayan warty pig
Southern white rhino
Bairds tapir

what are some ungulates that the reid park zoo no longer has ?
 
Tampa's Lowry park zoo-

Bay duiker
Blue duiker
Common eland
Crown duiker
Dromedary camel
Gerenuk
Greater kudu
Grevys zebra
Hartmans mountain zebra
Kenyan impala
Lesser kudu
Okapi
Pygmy hippo
Red river hog
Reticulated giraffe
Royal antelope
Desert warthog
Steenbok
Waterbuck
White rhino
Babirusa
Indian rhino
Lowland anoa
Malayan tapir
Reeves muntjac
Tufted deer
Visayan warty pig
Bornean bearded pig
Key deer
Llama
Domestic goat

What are some ungulates that the lowry park zoo no longer has ?
 
Santa Ana Zoo-

Sika deer (phased out)
Alpaca (Phased out)
Llama (phased out)
Collared peccary (phased out )
Mule deer ( phased out)
Dromedary camel
Guanaco
Gunthers dik dik ( phased out)
Domestic horse
Domestic sheep
Domestic goat
Domestic cattle

what are some ungulates santa ana zoo no longer has ?
 
Orange county zoo-

Mule deer
Collared peccary
Domestic goat
Domestic donkey
Domestic pig
Domestic sheep

what are some ungulates orange county zoo no longer has ?
 
Santa Barbara Zoo-

Baringo giraffe
Plains zebra (phased out)
River hippo (phased out)
Bairds tapir (phased out)

What other ungulates did santa barbara zoo have that they no longer have ?
 
Miami Metro Zoo-

Arabian oryx
Gaur
Onager
Goitered gazelle
Gemsbok
Nilgai
Sable antelope
Waterbuck
Thomsons gazelle
Grants gazelle
Giraffe
Okapi
Grevys zebra
Black duiker
Pygmy hippo
Indian rhino
Black rhino
Muntjac
Malayan tapir
Red river hog
Warthog
Bairds tapir
Bactrian camel
Dromedary camel
Guanaco
Anoa
Giant eland
Bongo
Addax
Addra gazelle
Nyala

what are some hoofstock the miami zoo no longer has ?
 
Denver zoo-

Indian rhino (coming soon)
Black rhino
Malayan tapir
Cape buffalo
Common warthog
Waterbuck
Dalls sheep
Gerenuk ( phased out)
Dromedary camel
Bactrian camel
Grevys zebra
River hippo
Mishmi takin
Okapi
Musk ox
Reindeer
Plains bison
Przewalskis horse
Red river hog
Rocky mountain bighorn sheep
Reticulated giraffe
Elk (phased out)

what are other species the denver zoo used to house but no longer has ?
 
Phoenix Zoo-

Arabian oryx
Grevys zebra
Mhorr gazelle
Reticulated giraffe
White rhino
Calamian deer
Visayan warty pig

what are some ungulates the phoenix zoo no longer has ?
 
Sequoia Park Zoo-

American bison (phased out)
Nyala (phased out )
Dromedary camel (phased out)
Chacoan peccary

what other ungulates did the sequoia park zoo have ?
 
The Phoenix Zoo used to have a great sitatunga exhibit with a stream flowing through it. Now it has chacoan peccary I think?

Reid Park Zoo used to have greater kudu and nyala together. Then for a while we just had the nyala. They were shipped to San Diego Safari Park when we moved the rhino into their yard.

As for San Diego Horn and Hoof Mesa, I always thought it would make more sense for them to focus their antelope collection at the Safari Park and smaller animals at the zoo. Of course, the variety of hoofstock at the Safari Park has gone way down too, so it is really a bummer for people like Ungulate Nerd. I was at the Safari Park two days ago and they do not even have zebras in the field anymore. It is just nothing like what it used to be.
 
Phoenix currently has the following:
Grevy's zebra
southern white rhinoceros
common warthog
Visayan warty pig
collared peccary
reticulated giraffe
Masai giraffe
pronghorn
Calamian deer
Mexican red brocket deer
Speke's gazelle
southern gerenuk
Kirk's dik-dik
Thomson's gazelle
Cape eland
Arabian oryx
Mexican bighorn sheep

They have also formerly had at different times:
Brazilian tapir
Chacoan peccary (may still be there off exhibit)
Reeve's muntjac deer
mhorr gazelle
Zulu suni
sitatunga
Nubian ibex
common waterbuck
 
Ituri said:
Phoenix currently has the following:
Grevy's zebra
southern white rhinoceros
common warthog
Visayan warty pig
collared peccary
reticulated giraffe
Masai giraffe
pronghorn
Calamian deer
Mexican red brocket deer
Speke's gazelle
southern gerenuk
Kirk's dik-dik
Thomson's gazelle
Cape eland
Arabian oryx
Mexican bighorn sheep

They have also formerly had at different times:
Brazilian tapir
Chacoan peccary (may still be there off exhibit)
Reeve's muntjac deer
mhorr gazelle
Zulu suni
sitatunga
Nubian ibex
common waterbuck
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Don't forget the Blackbuck that used to share an enclosure with Asian elephants!
 
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