Johnny Morris.
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I've been thinking about this since the start of this thread, and have come to the conclusion, that it's a better option than Burial or incineration.
Hmm, now how can i cash in on this before my demise?
Natural History Museum Guy the Gorilla back on display
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I've been thinking about this since the start of this thread, and have come to the conclusion, that it's a better option than Burial or incineration.
Hmm, now how can i cash in on this before my demise?
I'll give you $50Johnny Morris said:
mazfc
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They're quite disturbing to come across on a Sunday morning! But fascinating none the less.
In answer to question about should animals be stuffed: I actually find them quite odd to look at as (obviously) the animation/force in a life animal is gone. Having said that I don't object to an deceased animal being preserved and displayed. I would only object if the animal had be killed just to be preserved. As for Guy or Chi Chi I think it is personal preference whether you would see them or not. Some people like to still see their passed on beloved animals, some don't. I personally don't need that to remember my pets but don't object to others that do.
In the case of displaying human remains - especially modern ones. It's not to my taste, but as long as the people volunteered why not?
In answer to question about should animals be stuffed: I actually find them quite odd to look at as (obviously) the animation/force in a life animal is gone. Having said that I don't object to an deceased animal being preserved and displayed. I would only object if the animal had be killed just to be preserved. As for Guy or Chi Chi I think it is personal preference whether you would see them or not. Some people like to still see their passed on beloved animals, some don't. I personally don't need that to remember my pets but don't object to others that do.
In the case of displaying human remains - especially modern ones. It's not to my taste, but as long as the people volunteered why not?
Johnny Morris.
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Haha, i was hoping for a bit more than that, but i'll keep you in mind.
In answer to the question, I would have no objection to the process i.e. I’m no more bothered about a taxidermist pulling me apart than I am about a coroner doing it, and I’m not bothered about being on public display. I will admit though, that I don’t like the idea of being permanently displayed, at some point I’d like my remains to be disposed of (indecently, I don’t like the idea of burial or cremation either but do I have a choice?)
I guess the real point to your question is whether I’m a hypocrite. Well, if you consider my answer above to be hypocritical, fine, I don’t have a problem with that. That fact is that Biology fascinates me. I’m constantly amazed by life and how things function and somewhat paradoxically, learning about life often means examining things that are dead. The desire to learning about zoology and human biology is such a strong drive in me that I can’t understand why anyone else wouldn’t want to see the bodyworks exhibition, or skeletons in crypts, or mummified bodies or corpses that have been preserved in peat bogs, and how could anyone not want to dissect an animal and look inside? Or go to natural history museums and see the spectacle of diversity within the animal kingdom? As much as I love zoos, no zoo could offer that.
I just think that anyone who only sees animals from a sentimental point of view, as cute cuddly things, is completely missing the point of what animal are? Such a concept is completely alien to me and I’m at a lose to understand it.
I guess the real point to your question is whether I’m a hypocrite. Well, if you consider my answer above to be hypocritical, fine, I don’t have a problem with that. That fact is that Biology fascinates me. I’m constantly amazed by life and how things function and somewhat paradoxically, learning about life often means examining things that are dead. The desire to learning about zoology and human biology is such a strong drive in me that I can’t understand why anyone else wouldn’t want to see the bodyworks exhibition, or skeletons in crypts, or mummified bodies or corpses that have been preserved in peat bogs, and how could anyone not want to dissect an animal and look inside? Or go to natural history museums and see the spectacle of diversity within the animal kingdom? As much as I love zoos, no zoo could offer that.
I just think that anyone who only sees animals from a sentimental point of view, as cute cuddly things, is completely missing the point of what animal are? Such a concept is completely alien to me and I’m at a lose to understand it.
Well what I cannot understand is why someone wishes to spend his leisure time looking at skeletons in crypts, mummified bodies or corpses preserved in peat. Have you ever considered contacting Channel 4 and suggest they make a documentary about your " fascinating hobby"? and let the British public in on this amazing pastime of yours, I am sure they will be astounded!
You seem to think that Ned is odd in being interested to see these things.
28 million people had visited Bodyworlds' various exhibitions as of July 2009 (Media).
Over 3 million have been to see Oetzi the Ice Man at the South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology (Special exhibition at the South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology: Ötzi turns 20 | Ötzi - South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology).
These are not minority interests - many, many people are interested in these things.
zoogiraffe
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Channel 4 already have done a series that sometimes has human and animal remains found on its called TIME TEAM!!!
I think Ned is odd? well you said it my dear chap, talk about it takes one to know one.
You now just seem to be being deliberately provocative. I think your last reply to Ned ('Channel 4 documentary' etc) definitely suggests you think he is odd for being interested and I maintain he is not.
I cannot understand anyone being so implacably opposed (seemingly - please correct me if I'm wrong) to looking at anything dead in any form, or for any reason. Museum specimens and dissection are how we know about things - and medical science in particular would be centuries behind without human dissection. A scientific, historical and/or social interest in these things seems to be alien to you - I can assure you your viewpoint is just as alien to me. I cannot understand how anyone cannot find these things fascinating and awe-inspiring in equal measure.
I rest my case m' lord !
If I'm to take that as meaning you think I'm odd for those views, then I'm sure I'll learn to live with that.
But can you explain why you find an interest in biological science so odd? It seems odd to me for someone who is interested in animals to not be interested in their biology (and I'm including humans as animals, 'cos they are!).
mazfc
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Whilst something like Bodyworks doesn't appeal to me ( this could be just as equally related to my lack of interest in modern art as to the fact that they are modern bodies) tell me there's a mummy or a peat bog man and I'll be first in the queue!
I don't think Neds interest is odd, it's part of our curious human nature. It might not be exactly what I'm curious about but that doesn't make it odd. The world would be a dull place if we were all interested in the same thing.
What I do find odd is someone who simply can't or won't understand that just because someone doesn't agree with them they must be odd. Tarzan you seem to be the only one implacably on that side of the argument. Just you? Mmmmm...
I don't think Neds interest is odd, it's part of our curious human nature. It might not be exactly what I'm curious about but that doesn't make it odd. The world would be a dull place if we were all interested in the same thing.
What I do find odd is someone who simply can't or won't understand that just because someone doesn't agree with them they must be odd. Tarzan you seem to be the only one implacably on that side of the argument. Just you? Mmmmm...
On the button, a good point well made.
a couple of ideas I've been tossing around are encasing the corpses of participants in concrete and building an artificial reef (would need a lot of participants obviously). Another that also appeals to me is putting my body on display in a tank of hagfish. How cool would that be!?Maguari said:
Oh, that I like!