Ligers, Zonkeys and other hybrids
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I found some notes I had made about my only visit to Southam Zoo , probably not long before it closed . Amongst the many big cats there were two which I believed to be jaguar x leopard hybrids , showing characteristics of both . I think I may have some photos of the visit somewhere but cannot remember pictures of these cats .
Can anybody else shed more light on this , I wonder .
( there was a leopard in a cage with no safety barrier which had been de-clawed )
Can anybody else shed more light on this , I wonder .
( there was a leopard in a cage with no safety barrier which had been de-clawed )
I believe that eden ostrich world in penrith kept a grevy's zebra x shetland pony hybrid, until it closed in 2011. Does anyone know of the current where-abouts of the animal in question?
In fact the picture of the 'zony' in the top 10 hybrids link, was actually taken at Eden ostrich world!
Swan x Goose= Swoose.
One of the most interesting and rare hybrids I have come across recently is the Dorset 'Swoose'- a genuine Swan x (chinese-type) Goose which lives, or did live, on the river Frome in Dorset. (It is usually at Wool, just down the road from Monkeyworld.) This is an authenticated cross, rather than a miscellaneous goose x goose hybrid which are quite common. It was (wild) hatched in 2004 and there are photos of it as a baby with its parents, as well as adult. I saw it in 2011 but do not know if it is still alive now.
One of the most interesting and rare hybrids I have come across recently is the Dorset 'Swoose'- a genuine Swan x (chinese-type) Goose which lives, or did live, on the river Frome in Dorset. (It is usually at Wool, just down the road from Monkeyworld.) This is an authenticated cross, rather than a miscellaneous goose x goose hybrid which are quite common. It was (wild) hatched in 2004 and there are photos of it as a baby with its parents, as well as adult. I saw it in 2011 but do not know if it is still alive now.
Another zoo I know of has just aqcuired a new white lioness under the guise that she was 'ousted' by her pride and needed rescuing...?!
(not that they just wanted a shiny new attraction for the public)Does anyone have any data to support this 'ousting' of females from captive prides? I've searched scholar many times and found nothing!
(not that they just wanted a shiny new attraction for the public)Does anyone have any data to support this 'ousting' of females from captive prides? I've searched scholar many times and found nothing!
Vulpes
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I have recently come across pictures of teh swoose, I have to admit I was quite surprised!
This hybrid must have two of the most diverse parents of any hybrid?
Ligers parentage are both Leo Swans and geese are not as closly related. are there other examples of very different parents creating hybrids?
Just reading over the previous comments, if a white lion and a white tiger did cross breed, would the resulting ligers be white? I dont think so as the white gene in the tiger parent would not line up with the white gene in the lion. The liger would be recessive for both mutations, but not white.
This hybrid must have two of the most diverse parents of any hybrid?
Ligers parentage are both Leo Swans and geese are not as closly related. are there other examples of very different parents creating hybrids?
Just reading over the previous comments, if a white lion and a white tiger did cross breed, would the resulting ligers be white? I dont think so as the white gene in the tiger parent would not line up with the white gene in the lion. The liger would be recessive for both mutations, but not white.
I've been four times and only saw it the first time (early 2011). But I believe it was sometimes on the Piddle or a bit further upstream or downstream than its usual haunt. But I have had no reports of it since October 2011.
Here is a list of hybrids bred in britain and the first locations and dates
Sugar glider x squirrel glider, London zoo 1931
Brush tailed bettong x Eastern bettong, London zoo 1874
swamp wallaby x agile wallaby, London 1968
African bush elephant x asian elephant, Chester zoo 1978
brown lemur x mongoose lemur, London zoo 1857
Black lemur x brown lemur, London Zoo 1899
black-and-white ruffed lemur x Red ruffed lemur, London zoo 1972
common marmoset x silvery marmoset, London zoo 1932
common marmoset x black pencilled marmoset, Jersey 1966
Geoffrey's spider monkey x brown spider monkey, Twycross 1973
vervet monkey x rhesus macaque, London 1873
green monkey x tantalus monkey, Chessington 1975
Crab-eating Macaque x Southern Pig-tailed Macaque, london zoo 1860
Crab-eating Macaque x Mandrill, london 1878
Rhesus Macaque x Cherry-crowned Mangabey, paignton 1925
Rhesus Macaque x Southern Pig-tailed Macaque, chester 1966
Bonnet Macaque x Rhesus Macaque, london 1846
Toque Macaque x Bonnet Macaque, London 1860
Yellow Baboon x Olive Baboon, Chessington 1969
Hamadryas Baboon x Olive Baboon, London 1961
Hanuman Langur x Capped Langur, london 1912
Phayre's Langur x Spectacled Langur, Twycross 1966
Pileated Gibbon x Moloch Gibbon, Bell Vue 1956
Sumatran Orang-utan x Bornean Orang-utan, Chester 1968
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Sugar glider x squirrel glider, London zoo 1931
Brush tailed bettong x Eastern bettong, London zoo 1874
swamp wallaby x agile wallaby, London 1968
African bush elephant x asian elephant, Chester zoo 1978
brown lemur x mongoose lemur, London zoo 1857
Black lemur x brown lemur, London Zoo 1899
black-and-white ruffed lemur x Red ruffed lemur, London zoo 1972
common marmoset x silvery marmoset, London zoo 1932
common marmoset x black pencilled marmoset, Jersey 1966
Geoffrey's spider monkey x brown spider monkey, Twycross 1973
vervet monkey x rhesus macaque, London 1873
green monkey x tantalus monkey, Chessington 1975
Crab-eating Macaque x Southern Pig-tailed Macaque, london zoo 1860
Crab-eating Macaque x Mandrill, london 1878
Rhesus Macaque x Cherry-crowned Mangabey, paignton 1925
Rhesus Macaque x Southern Pig-tailed Macaque, chester 1966
Bonnet Macaque x Rhesus Macaque, london 1846
Toque Macaque x Bonnet Macaque, London 1860
Yellow Baboon x Olive Baboon, Chessington 1969
Hamadryas Baboon x Olive Baboon, London 1961
Hanuman Langur x Capped Langur, london 1912
Phayre's Langur x Spectacled Langur, Twycross 1966
Pileated Gibbon x Moloch Gibbon, Bell Vue 1956
Sumatran Orang-utan x Bornean Orang-utan, Chester 1968
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lion x tiger, unknown location and date
jaguar x leopard, unknown location and date
leopard x puma, " " " "
small-spotted genet x blotched genet, london 1859
small-spotted genet x pardine genet, London 1885
indian grey mongoose x egyptian mongoose, Edinburgh 1961
Canis lupus Linnaeus x Dingo, London 1841
American Black Bear x Brown Bear, london 1859
Brown Bear x polar bear, unknown
Brown Bear x Asian Black Bear, Chessington 1938
South African Fur Seal x Californian Sealion, Bell vue 1913
Somali Wild Ass x Chapman's Zebra, London 1911
Somali Wild Ass x Mountain Zebra, London 1911
Przewalski's Horse x Kulan, woburn 1909
Syrian Wild Ass x Somali Wild Ass, London date unknown
Quagga x Domestic Donkey, owston park 1830
Chapman's Zebra x Mountain Zebra, London 1915
Mountain Zebra x Kiang, Knowsley 1830s
White-lipped Peccary x Collared Peccary, London 1864
Bactrian Camel x arabian camel, London 1880
Alpaca x Guanaco, Bristol 1843
Mule Deer x White-tailed Deer, London 1865
Axis Deer x Hog Deer, Whipsnade 1942
Axis Deer x European Fallow Deer, unknown
Red Deer x Père David's Deer, Woburn 1906
Wapiti x Mule Deer, London 1865
Sika x Sambar, Woburn 1890s
Indian Muntjac x Reeves' Muntjac, Woburn 1850s
Philippine Spotted Deer x Philippine Deer, London 1871
jaguar x leopard, unknown location and date
leopard x puma, " " " "
small-spotted genet x blotched genet, london 1859
small-spotted genet x pardine genet, London 1885
indian grey mongoose x egyptian mongoose, Edinburgh 1961
Canis lupus Linnaeus x Dingo, London 1841
American Black Bear x Brown Bear, london 1859
Brown Bear x polar bear, unknown
Brown Bear x Asian Black Bear, Chessington 1938
South African Fur Seal x Californian Sealion, Bell vue 1913
Somali Wild Ass x Chapman's Zebra, London 1911
Somali Wild Ass x Mountain Zebra, London 1911
Przewalski's Horse x Kulan, woburn 1909
Syrian Wild Ass x Somali Wild Ass, London date unknown
Quagga x Domestic Donkey, owston park 1830
Chapman's Zebra x Mountain Zebra, London 1915
Mountain Zebra x Kiang, Knowsley 1830s
White-lipped Peccary x Collared Peccary, London 1864
Bactrian Camel x arabian camel, London 1880
Alpaca x Guanaco, Bristol 1843
Mule Deer x White-tailed Deer, London 1865
Axis Deer x Hog Deer, Whipsnade 1942
Axis Deer x European Fallow Deer, unknown
Red Deer x Père David's Deer, Woburn 1906
Wapiti x Mule Deer, London 1865
Sika x Sambar, Woburn 1890s
Indian Muntjac x Reeves' Muntjac, Woburn 1850s
Philippine Spotted Deer x Philippine Deer, London 1871
original source of the above for more information: Hybrids - The Bartlett Society
There are some other interesting titbits here: Mammalian Ark Kinds?Appendices and References - Answers in Genesis
There are some other interesting titbits here: Mammalian Ark Kinds?Appendices and References - Answers in Genesis
jbnbsn99
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Chlidonias, did you really just link to an anti-evolution creationist site? Tell me you didn't do that.