Noah's Ark Zoo Farm Lions and Tigers
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Lets wait and see how they get on with the Tigers before we go jumping the gun with them getting Elephants!!!!!!!!!!!
Builders were hard at work last Friday on the Tiger Complex . A large steel-clad building is going up , under a covered front area are 4 large viewing windows , looks like there will also be a covered area to the front on the tiger's side . All fencing posts seem to be up with some mesh attached . There are 2 smaller outside areas in front of and to the side of the house . Beyond these are a further 2 much larger areas , concrete pools were in these with steps up to viewing platforms by them ( possibly viewing windows underneath ) . The outside areas are grassed , no sign of any platforms etc. in them at present . They will be exhibiting Amur and Bengal tigers and talk of breeding Bengals .
This development is on a bigger scale than I had expected .
The walk-through bird area which has cranes as well as domestics has been re-built with a 'Splash area ' outside . Rhino enclosure has a number of steel cables running along the outside fence making it much more secure . New prairie marmot area , kept behing fencing .
I feel that the Reptile House and lemur/marmoset exhibits are the weakest .
This development is on a bigger scale than I had expected .
The walk-through bird area which has cranes as well as domestics has been re-built with a 'Splash area ' outside . Rhino enclosure has a number of steel cables running along the outside fence making it much more secure . New prairie marmot area , kept behing fencing .
I feel that the Reptile House and lemur/marmoset exhibits are the weakest .
I really think this place could create serious competition problems for Bristol's new planned conservation park. The two places will be so close together and I wonder if Bristol and the surrounding area's population can support both, as well as Bristol Zoo. Noah's Ark may be tatty and with some poor planning etc but its already established and with the arrival of Tigers it could well take over as the main place to see big animals in the area. I'm sure it will also remain cheaper for a family to visit than the alternative(s) too.
well its simple, weve mentioned on the big animals thread that a tiger,leopard, giraffe or sun bear enclosure could be somewhere elso on the bristol zoo sight
But Bristol wouldn't ever get bears or more big cats as there really isn't enough room. It stopped years ago for a reason.
And I went to Noahs ark today, not as bad as I remember, but still not great. The Tiger enclosure looks like it might be half decent and pretty big, but why it's split into 4 or 5 exhibits and why they're getting 2 subspecies seems pointless to me. Also, what's the deal with the lone giraffe?! It's even got 2 names on the sign, stating the female will be arriving soon. Ridiculous. They also have a 3 day old tapir, stupidly cute!
And I went to Noahs ark today, not as bad as I remember, but still not great. The Tiger enclosure looks like it might be half decent and pretty big, but why it's split into 4 or 5 exhibits and why they're getting 2 subspecies seems pointless to me. Also, what's the deal with the lone giraffe?! It's even got 2 names on the sign, stating the female will be arriving soon. Ridiculous. They also have a 3 day old tapir, stupidly cute!
Still only the male giraffe 'Gerald' who was inter-acting with the 1.2 zebras he shares his paddock with .
Unless they import some pure Bengal tigers - though I do not know where these would come from - they will be breeding from the non-pure UK stock which the likes of West Midland SP call Bengals .
I have plenty of photos but am somewhat lacking in the IT skills to get them onto the Gallery !! Bear with me .
I agree with you Pertinax . The front of Noah's Ark leaflet features large pictures of rhino , giraffe , zebra and tiger , inside it claims ' Home of the BIG ZOO animals' . They do not say the tigers are not there yet , wonder how many people are disappointed .
Much of what they have at Noah's Ark is designed for families with young children , the same group that seem to make up a large part of Bristol's customer-base , there are always push-chairs everywhere . Noah's Ark is not particularly cheap , £10.50 for adults , £8.50 aged 2 - 16 with small reductions for family groups . However groups of 100+ only pay £5.00 each !
It sounds simple but I would bet you that Bristol Zoo will take no active measures to build new enclosures for larger animals on the existing Zoo site in order to actively compete with Noah's Ark. They will just ignore it and put any efforts in that direction into the new park, and that's still only in the planning stages.
So Noah's Ark have a head start as they've already got a wide range of large animals on show..
I can just see parents asking their children when its revisit time- shall we go to the Zoo, or Noah's Ark? I wonder what the preference tends to be?
By the time the Conservation Park becomes a reality(If it does of course) Noah's Ark will be even more establised....
I can't see the Indian government making the first export of pure Indian tigers for many years to a non-accredited zoo/farm/amusement park in South West England with no previous experience of keeping the species!!
So they must be proposing to keep and breed generic 'Bengal' tigers.
overall this place seems a mess, the enclosures seem poorly designed and built, the tiger plans are rediculous and the seem quite badly looke dta by the zoo community. how can they be taken seriously as a place of conservation and education when they plan to breed tigers of mixed subspecies is beyond me!
(cannot comment on the park itself as i haven't been their but i feel i can comment on all the above due to all the information from this wonderful site
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ps haven't posted in a while and because of work and so might be rather absent for quite a while
(cannot comment on the park itself as i haven't been their but i feel i can comment on all the above due to all the information from this wonderful site
)ps haven't posted in a while and because of work and so might be rather absent for quite a while
yes thats true, but im not saying that they will
Just thinking, i doubt bristol will be adding any new species until NWCP opens (if it does), cos they really want to make the park
overall this place seems a mess, the enclosures seem poorly designed and built, the tiger plans are rediculous and the seem quite badly looke dta by the zoo community. how can they be taken seriously as a place of conservation and education when they plan to breed tigers of mixed subspecies is beyond me!
ps haven't posted in a while and because of work and so might be rather absent for quite a while
Some of it was ok, as in the animals seemed looked after (e.g.- I thought the rhino enclosure was good for a small place), but it cannot call itself a zoo due to the lack of conservation and proper education. The hybrid tigers they'll be purposely breeding demonstrates that perfectly.
If the two zoos/parks are so close (Bristol and Noah's), wouldn't it make sense for them to form some sort of allience? At least that way they could swap expertise and benefit each other by sending people around (guests from NA to Bristol, guests from Bristol to NA).
Of course, in a dream world, Bristol Zoo could take over Noah's Ark and convert it into their planned Conservation Park
As for Noah's Ark taking on hybrid tigers, it's not a bad thing unless they start misleading the public by claiming that they have pure Bengals and pure Siberians. The hybrids have got to go somewhere so they don't get in the way of pure bred breeding programmes; though places like NA are not experienced, at least by keeping the hybrids, Noah's Ark would be gaining said needed experience (hopefully) by keeping the hybrids, and doing other (more reknowned? reputable? conservation orientated?) zoos a favour by taking on the animals that are ineligible for breeding. We've just got to hope they've got space, tiger-proof fencing and sense.
Of course, in a dream world, Bristol Zoo could take over Noah's Ark and convert it into their planned Conservation Park
As for Noah's Ark taking on hybrid tigers, it's not a bad thing unless they start misleading the public by claiming that they have pure Bengals and pure Siberians. The hybrids have got to go somewhere so they don't get in the way of pure bred breeding programmes; though places like NA are not experienced, at least by keeping the hybrids, Noah's Ark would be gaining said needed experience (hopefully) by keeping the hybrids, and doing other (more reknowned? reputable? conservation orientated?) zoos a favour by taking on the animals that are ineligible for breeding. We've just got to hope they've got space, tiger-proof fencing and sense.
If the two zoos/parks are so close (Bristol and Noah's), wouldn't it make sense for them to form some sort of allience? At least that way they could swap expertise and benefit each other by sending people around (guests from NA to Bristol, guests from Bristol to NA).
Of course, in a dream world, Bristol Zoo could take over Noah's Ark and convert it into their planned Conservation Park
zoological society of bristol
Aren't Noah's creationists? If so, it could be argued that they are misleading the public anyway...