I will be there on the Thursday 2 weeks from now ... (PL)
Lowland gorillas in Europe 2013
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I will be there on the Thursday 2 weeks from now ... (PL)
Willard
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Howletts: Otana
I saw him in early August. He was already separated, living opposite his father's (Kouillou's) group. He didn't look happy and was very restless so I didn't get the chance to take good pics of him. I hope he'll settle in in Melbourne soon. - If you like, check W i l l a r d's photosets on Flickr for photos of other gorillas at Howletts and Port Lympne. Unfortunately I wasn't able to ID most of them.
I saw him in early August. He was already separated, living opposite his father's (Kouillou's) group. He didn't look happy and was very restless so I didn't get the chance to take good pics of him. I hope he'll settle in in Melbourne soon. - If you like, check W i l l a r d's photosets on Flickr for photos of other gorillas at Howletts and Port Lympne. Unfortunately I wasn't able to ID most of them.
Willard
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Vimoto
No news in the last days. After the second transfusion on Sep 8 they put Vimoto together with the females again, to trigger his dominant behavior and make him eat again. Since then - nothing. I'm afraid that's not a good sign and the zoo team is running out of options.
No news in the last days. After the second transfusion on Sep 8 they put Vimoto together with the females again, to trigger his dominant behavior and make him eat again. Since then - nothing. I'm afraid that's not a good sign and the zoo team is running out of options.
Willard
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Wuppertal: Vimoto
According to a local television station (via Facebook) on Sep 19 a surgery was done on him to check his inner organs and hopefully find the reason for his ongoing gastro-intestinal problems, and why he still does not eat. (He drinks though.) There are no results yet. Some people already suggest to stop treating him and leave him alone, in other words let him die.
According to a local television station (via Facebook) on Sep 19 a surgery was done on him to check his inner organs and hopefully find the reason for his ongoing gastro-intestinal problems, and why he still does not eat. (He drinks though.) There are no results yet. Some people already suggest to stop treating him and leave him alone, in other words let him die.
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Yola (Zoo La Palmyre) died in September 2013. Cause of death and exact date are still unknown.
Willard
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Howletts
As I've just learned from a thread on Facebook, Kibi's daughter (born in early July) has died. And apparently Kibi has joined her group (Djala) in Gabon.
Here is a full quote of Howlett's posting from October 3: "Kibi unfortunately lost her baby and has however rejoined the group and the reintegration into the group was seamless it was as if nothing had changed."
At my visit (early August) Kibi was totally stressed and restless. She was together with four older females in G1, ex-Bitam's group. I was really worried about her, and the infant's death doesn't come as a big surprise to me.
They did not let her go to Gabon with the others because she was pregnant at that time, but I wonder why? Pregnant women can fly on an airplane, why not pregnant gorillas? Any idea?
As I've just learned from a thread on Facebook, Kibi's daughter (born in early July) has died. And apparently Kibi has joined her group (Djala) in Gabon.
Here is a full quote of Howlett's posting from October 3: "Kibi unfortunately lost her baby and has however rejoined the group and the reintegration into the group was seamless it was as if nothing had changed."
At my visit (early August) Kibi was totally stressed and restless. She was together with four older females in G1, ex-Bitam's group. I was really worried about her, and the infant's death doesn't come as a big surprise to me.
They did not let her go to Gabon with the others because she was pregnant at that time, but I wonder why? Pregnant women can fly on an airplane, why not pregnant gorillas? Any idea?
Willard
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Wuppertal/Vimoto
News from October 4, from the zoo management via a friend on Facebook: "Thank you for being interested on Vimoto`s condition. He is doing a bit better but still needs medical support. Hopefully he will be better within the next weeks. We have to be very patient."
News from October 4, from the zoo management via a friend on Facebook: "Thank you for being interested on Vimoto`s condition. He is doing a bit better but still needs medical support. Hopefully he will be better within the next weeks. We have to be very patient."
It doesn't surprise me in the least either that things worked out like this. Take a female away from her group like that and she is bound to be stressed and worried- putting her with stranger females isn't an answer either. IMO they should have sent her pregnant instead to Africa, but they haven't been faced with a decision like that before. They will hopefully know better if it ever happens again.
I guess the baby dying in England will bring less potentially adverse publicity than it would have if the baby had been born and died there.
I think if that had happened in Gabon they would/could have just glossed over it. It was a difficult decision for them to make and despite so many years of Gorilla breeding, afaik they haven't (obviously) had a situation anything like that before, so had no prior experience. But I did have misgivings when I heard she had been left behind and why.
From my understanding - Under IATA legislation, once a pregnant Mammal (of any species) has passed 90% of the expected gestation then they legally can't fly. So by the time they were ready to ship the group, it's quite possible she'd already passed this threshold and hence they had no choice but to leave her in the UK
Gorillas Land
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Shira (Zoo Frankfurt) gave birth on October 12nd 2013 a baby sired by Viatu.
Leon and Lou Lou (Loro Parque & Howletts Wild Animal Park respectively) arrived on October 12nd 2013 to Fundaçao Zoo-Botanica de Belo Horizonte.
Leon and Lou Lou (Loro Parque & Howletts Wild Animal Park respectively) arrived on October 12nd 2013 to Fundaçao Zoo-Botanica de Belo Horizonte.
Over the years Zoo La Palmyre have lost many gorillas and it still seems to be going on now with two more breeding adults 'Bongo'(m) and 'Yola' (f) dying this year. It leaves them with a 'breeding' group remnant of just one female 'Ybana' and two(1.1?) offspring aged four and three from the two females.
They also have the two adult males 'Mike' and 'Nyuki' living either together or seperately. Both are sons of the impressive male 'Migger' who came from the Basel Zoo. Unfortunately they aren't socialised with other Gorillas so its unlikely they can be used for breeding.
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Willard
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La Palmyre
1.1 is correct - Bangui m. and Ya Sika f.
Apparently Mike and Nyuki share the same enclosure - see this photo from July 2013:
2013-07-04-12h42m19.272P5213 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
1.1 is correct - Bangui m. and Ya Sika f.
Apparently Mike and Nyuki share the same enclosure - see this photo from July 2013:
2013-07-04-12h42m19.272P5213 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Thanks for the link. I think I've seen the picture before but didn't notice the date. These two males used to live in a grotto-style enclosure, and also at one stage, a cage-style enclosure- they now look like they are on grass. Mike is the more impressive one- he has the red cap and reminds me quite of his father 'Migger'.
When Apenheul were looking for a new male some years back, they did consider one or other of these two but their desocialised background meant they wouldn't risk it.
When Apenheul were looking for a new male some years back, they did consider one or other of these two but their desocialised background meant they wouldn't risk it.
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