Cyclopedidae (silky anteaters)
Platacanthomyidae (spiny dormice)
Solenodontidae (solenodons)
Mormoopidae (moustached bats and ghost-faced bats)
@Dassie rat you're going to have to update your last post![]()
Family Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat)*
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* not sure (captive)
On Najade's NZ travel thread it was said the bats were not seen because they were no longer at Auckland Zoo.Also wanted meant to ask @Najade was there a captive Family Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat) you weren't sure of (if so, WHERE!?), or was that an errant asterisk?
I'm surprised you haven't seen a wild bear. How many of the species have you been in range of?@Najade I had to think about it a bit, but I actually haven't seen a wild hedgehog yet! I'm sure if Europe was my homebase this wouldn't be the case. No wild bear yet is probably my most unforgivable haha.
Also wanted meant to ask @Najade was there a captive Family Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat) you weren't sure of (if so, WHERE!?), or was that an errant asterisk?
I compared my list with @ThylacineAlive and noticed he's seen wild bears, beavers and manatees while I haven't. I need to up my wild game!
I've never seen a wild bear either. Granted I don't live in America like @Giant Eland but still I've missed Giant Panda, Sloth Bear, Asiatic Black Bear and Sun Bear ("missed" as in I have been in countries in which they occur).I'm surprised you haven't seen a wild bear. How many of the species have you been in range of?
On Najade's NZ travel thread it was said the bats were not seen because they were no longer at Auckland Zoo.
For @Giant Eland they were held (and bred) for a period at Auckland Zoo [where I saw them] but they have since died out.
I'm surprised you haven't seen a wild bear. How many of the species have you been in range of?
They weren't at the zoo in February 2007. The bats were part of a translocation project (to predator-free Kapiti Island) but developed ear infections which meant that they couldn't echo-locate, so they were retained in captivity. Twelve bats were sent to Auckland Zoo in September 2007, but they remained off-display until 2011. The last of the group died out in 2017. I didn't get any usable photos of them unfortunately.Ah that's a shame! Any clue where in the zoo they were kept in February of 2007 (When I visited)? Did you ever manage any photos? I see none are uploaded of live animals.
Also @Chlidonias what's the story behind seeing wild Kitti's Hog-nosed Bat? How difficult was that!?
They were definitely on display in 2012 - in the nocturnal house in Te Wao Nui. I gather from other posts on the forum that they may have been difficult to see for some people though.@Giant Eland Yes, the bats were gone last time I visited. But I went to Auckland Zoo back in 2012. I think I saw them then (just not 100% sure).
I check my lifetick list again and found out I have seen 3 more family. I have seen opossum, fossa and capybara so that 3 families should be also bold.So here is my list. I will invert the system, with bold being seen in captivity and underline being see in the wild. This is due to I haven’t been to wildlife seeing and this method is easier to see.
Order Monotremata (monotremes)
Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
Order Proboscidea (elephants)
Order Sirenia (sirenians)
Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
Order Cingulata (armadillos)
Order Dermoptera (colugos)
Order Scandentia (tree shrews)*
Order Primates (primates)
Order Rodentia (rodents)
Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
Order Chiroptera (bats)
Order Pholidota (pangolins)
Order Carnivora (carnivores)
Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
[Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)]
Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
Order Cetacea (whales)
*I believe I have seen a treeshrew in Ueno, but I can’t find photo evidence of me seeing it.
Order count: 22/29+1 unsure
Families:
Order Monotremata (monotremes)
Family Ornithorhynchidae (Platypus)
Family Tachyglossidae (echidnas)
Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
Family Microbiotheriidae (Monito del Monte)
Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
Family Caenolestidae (shrew-opossums)
Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
Family Didelphidae (American opossums)
Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
Family Notoryctidae (marsupial moles)
Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
Family Myrmecobiidae (Numbat)
Family Dasyuridae (dasyurids)
Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
Family Thylacomyidae (Bilby)
Family Peramelidae (bandicoots)
Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
Family Phascolarctidae (Koala)
Family Vombatidae (wombats)
Family Phalangeridae (brushtail possums and cuscuses)
Family Burramyidae (pigmy possums)
Family Pseudocheiridae (ringtail possums)
Family Petauridae (striped possums, gliders)
Family Acrobatidae (feathertail gliders)
Family Tarsipedidae (Honey Possum)
Family Hypsiprymnodontidae (Musky Rat Kangaroo)
Family Potoroidae (rat kangaroos)
Family Macropodidae (kangaroos, wallabies)
Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
Family Tenrecidae (tenrecs)
Family Potamogalididae (otter shrews)
Family Chrysochloridae (golden moles)
Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
Family Macroscelididae (elephant shrews)
Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
Family Orycteropodidae (Aardvark)
Order Proboscidea (elephants)
Family Elephantidae (elephants)
Order Sirenia (sirenians)
Family Dugongidae (Dugong)
Family Trichechidae (manatees)
Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
Family Procaviidae (hyraxes)
Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
Family Bradypodidae (three-toed sloths)
Family Megalonychidae (two-toed sloths)
Family Myrmecophagidae (anteaters)
Family Cyclopedidae (silky anteaters)
Order Cingulata (armadillos)
Family Dasypodidae (armadillos)
Order Dermoptera (colugos)
Family Cynocephalidae (colugos)
Order Scandentia (tree shrews)
Family Tupaiidae (tree shrews)*
Family Ptilocercidae (Pen-tailed Tree Shrew)
Order Primates (primates)
Family Cheirogaleidae (dwarf lemurs, mouse lemurs)
Family Daubentoniidae (Aye-aye)
Family Lemuridae (lemurs)
Family Lepilemuridae (sportive lemurs)
Family Indriidae (woolly lemurs, sifakas)
Family Lorisidae (lorises)
Family Galagidae (bushbabies)
Family Tarsiidae (tarsiers)
Family Callitrichidae (marmosets, tamarins)
Family Cebidae (capuchins, squirrel monkeys)
Family Aotidae (douroucoulis)
Family Pitheciidae (titis, uakaris, sakis)
Family Atelidae (howlers, spider monkeys, woolly monkeys)
Family Cercopithecidae (Old World monkeys)
Family Hylobatidae (gibbons)
Family Hominidae (apes)
Order Rodentia (rodents)
Family Aplodontiidae (Sewellel)
Family Sciuridae (squirrels)
Family Gliridae (dormice)
Family Anomaluridae (anomalures)
Family Pedetidae (springhaas)
Family Castoridae (beavers)
Family Geomyidae (pocket gophers)
Family Heteromyidae (kangaroo rats, pocket mice)
Family Diatomyidae / Laonastidae (Laotian Rock Rat)
Family Ctenodactylidae (gundis)
Family Bathyergidae (blesmols)
Family Hystricidae (Old World porcupines)
Family Petromuridae (Dassie Rat)
Family Thryonomyidae (cane rats)
Family Erethizontidae (New World porcupines)
Family Chinchillidae (chinchillas, viscachas)
Family Dinomyidae (Pacarana)
Family Caviidae (cavies)
Family Dasyproctidae (agoutis)
Family Cuniculidae (pacas)
Family Ctenomyidae (tuco-tucos)
Family Octodontidae (octodonts)
Family Abrocomidae (chinchilla rats)
Family Echimyidae (New World spiny rats)
Family Myocastoridae (Coypu)
Family Capromyidae (hutias)
Family Dipodidae (jerboas, jumping mice)
Family Platacanthomyidae (spiny dormice)
Family Spalacidae (bamboo rats, mole rats)
Family Calomyscidae (mouse-like hamsters)
Family Nesomyidae (Madagascan and African rats and mice)
Family Cricetidae (voles, hamsters, New World rats and mice)
Family Muridae (Old World rats and mice)
Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
Family Ochotonidae (pikas)
Family Leporidae (rabbits)
Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
Family Erinaceidae (hedgehogs, gymnures)
Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
Family Solenodontidae (solenodons)
Family Soricidae (shrews)
Family Talpidae (moles, desmans)
Order Chiroptera (bats)
Family Pteropodidae (Old World fruit bats)
Family Megadermatidae (false vampire bats)
Family Rhinopomatidae (mouse-tailed bats)
Family Craseonycteridae (Kitti's Hog-nosed Bat)
Family Rhinolophidae (horseshoe bats)
Family Hipposideridae (Old World leaf-nosed bats)
Family Furipteridae (Smokey Bat and Thumbless Bat)
Family Thyropteridae (disc-winged bats)
Family Mormoopidae (moustached bats and ghost-faced bats)
Family Noctilionidae (bulldog bats)
Family Phyllostomidae (New World leaf-nosed bats)
Family Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat)
Family Myzopodidae (Madagascan sucker-footed bats)
Family Natalidae (funnel-eared bats)
Family Molossidae (free-tailed bats)
Family Emballonuridae (sheath-tailed or sac-winged bats)
Family Nycteridae (slit-faced bats)
Family Vespertilionidae (vesper bats)
Family Miniopteridae (bent-winged or long-fingered bats)
Order Pholidota (pangolins)
Family Manidae (pangolins)
Order Carnivora (carnivores)
Family Felidae (cats)
Family Viverridae (civets, genets)
Family Prionodontidae (Asian linsangs)
Family Eupleridae (Madagascan mongooses)
Family Nandiniidae (African Palm Civet)
Family Herpestidae (mongooses)
Family Hyaenidae (hyaenas)
Family Canidae (dogs)
Family Ursidae (bears)
Family Odobenidae (Walrus)
Family Otariidae (eared seals)
Family Phocidae (earless seals)
Family Mustelidae (weasels, badgers, otters)
Family Procyonidae (raccoons, ringtails, coatis)
Family Ailuridae (Red Panda)
Family Mephitidae (skunks, stink badgers)
Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
Family Equidae (horses)
Family Tapiridae (tapirs)
Family Rhinocerotidae (rhinoceroses)
Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)
Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
Family Suidae (pigs)
Family Tayassuidae (peccaries)
Family Hippopotamidae (hippopotamuses)
Family Camelidae (camelids)
Family Tragulidae (mouse deer)
Family Moschidae (musk deer)
Family Cervidae (deer)
Family Antilocapridae (Pronghorn)
Family Giraffidae (Giraffe, Okapi)
Family Bovidae (bovids)
Order Cetacea (whales)
Family Balaenidae (right whales)
Family Cetotheriidae (Pigmy Right Whale)
Family Balaenopteridae (rorquals)
Family Eschrichtiidae (Gray Whale)
Family Delphinidae (dolphins)
Family Monodontidae (Narwhal, Beluga)
Family Phocoenidae (porpoises)
Family Kogiidae (pigmy sperm whales)
Family Physeteridae (Sperm Whale)
Family Iniidae (Amazon river dolphins)
Family Pontoporiidae (La Plata Dolphin)
Family Lipotidae (Baiji)
Family Platanistidae (Ganges Dolphin)
Family Ziphiidae (beaked whales)
75 family seen if I count it right.
Where did you see an opossum, and which species?I check my lifetick list again and found out I have seen 3 more family. I have seen opossum, fossa and capybara so that 3 families should be also bold.
I'm guessing there is no-one. It's quite conceivable that someone has seen both of those American families, but (I think) inconceivable that anyone has also seen a marsupial mole given how extremely rarely they are seen by anybody at all.I wonder if any person on the world seen all mammal orders? The difficult part is marsupial mole AND shrew-oposssums and monito del monte.
Gray short tailed opossum in Ueno.Where did you see an opossum, and which species?
I wonder if any person on the world seen all mammal orders? The difficult part is marsupial mole AND shrew-oposssums and monito del monte.
I'm guessing there is no-one. It's quite conceivable that someone has seen both of those American families, but (I think) inconceivable that anyone has also seen a marsupial mole given how extremely rarely they are seen by anybody at all.
I went to college with someone who later saw a live baiji.
Baiji would be an exception to seeing all living families, but the reason I have it in there is because there are people who have seen them before extinction.Finishing out every family in Cetacea would be quite an undertaking by itself! I assume we'll make an exception to Lipotidae if the Baiji indeed turns out to be extinct!
I went to college with someone who later saw a live baiji.
He is talking about Mark Carwardine, if you are familiar with Last Chance To See.Wow! Captive or wild? Any photos!?