The Horse Boy
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What's 'pull an Oedipus"?Samson - the only other bull on site at Oregon is Samudra, and I doubt they'd willingly want to pull an Oedipus.
What's 'pull an Oedipus"?Samson - the only other bull on site at Oregon is Samudra, and I doubt they'd willingly want to pull an Oedipus.
For a son to marry (or in this sense breed with) his own mother, and Rose-Tu is Samurda's mother, so that is how it would be for the zoo to pull an Oedipus with their elephants.What's 'pull an Oedipus"?
Ah gotcha. I knew Samudra is rose tu's son. I also know they did not say anything about who the father of the calf is until she was just born, so I had a hunch it was either Samson if he got the ropes of breeding or if they AI'd Rose Tu from a male at another zoo.For a son to marry (or in this sense breed with) his own mother, and Rose-Tu is Samurda's mother, so that is how it would be for the zoo to pull an Oedipus with their elephants.
Recently, the zoo officially announced the name of Rose-Tu’s calf, who is now known as (0.1) Tula-Tu.A female calf was born at the Oregon Zoo on February 1st to mother Rose-Tu!
Hello baby! Oregon Zoo elephant Rose-Tu delivers again | Oregon Zoo
Recently, the zoo officially announced the name of Rose-Tu’s calf, who is now known as (0.1) Tula-Tu.
It was also mentioned that if Tula were to be a boy, the running name would’ve been “Gonzo”. Personally, I find the chosen name to be way for more fitting for Tula, as it relates to both her mother (“Tu”) and the Sanskrit word for balance (“Tula”).
That's great news. Hopefully he now should able to breed rosie or be offloaded to other breeding facilities.
Yes indeed the best possible news! If Rozie is in good breeding shape we may very well see an early 2027 calf out of ABQ.That's great news. Hopefully he now should able to breed rosie or be offloaded to other breeding facilities.
I know cows can breed into their 40's. So there should still be plenty of time for rosie to produce calves through as much natural breeding as possible.Yes indeed the best possible news! If Rozie is in good breeding shape we may very well see an early 2027 calf out of ABQ.
Theoretically considering she is only 32 years, and if they breed her every four years she can have 4-5 calves if they breed her until she's 48, and if they breed her in even shorter intervals she can have up to 5-6 calves.I know cows can breed into their 40's. So there should still be plenty of time for rosie to produce calves through as much natural breeding as possible.
Fingers crossed for a stable young herd at abq. The future seems more promising than ever before with eehv vaccine trials that happened since last summer on American Asian facilities. I pray the lord this will happen to us Africans, and facilities in Europe and beyond.Theoretically considering she is only 32 years, and if they breed her every four years she can have 4-5 calves if they breed her until she's 48, and if they breed her in even shorter intervals she can have up to 5-6 calves.
A little Classical Drama (Roman or Greek) never hurt anyone.Ah gotcha. I knew Samudra is rose tu's son. I also know they did not say anything about who the father of the calf is until she was just born, so I had a hunch it was either Samson if he got the ropes of breeding or if they AI'd Rose Tu from a male at another zoo.
And if the cow's a calf, then the zoo can keep breeding elephants without having to bring in new cows.
Well, first and foremost ... do away with the AI and do some natural breeding with their bull for a change.....! I wish that natural breeding would take a front seat and AI and assisted reproduction only came into view if and when the natural breeding or social structure is not there ...Fingers crossed for a stable young herd at abq. The future seems more promising than ever before with eehv vaccine trials that happened since last summer on American Asian facilities. I pray the lord this will happen to us Africans, and facilities in Europe and beyond.
I know that's more an African topic, but that's the issue with indy as they have relied exclusively on ai for over 20 years. AI should be more done as more a backup plan and last resort type situation with elephant breeding, not that I have anything against it. It's just more extensive and expensive in contrast to natural breeding and can be invasive. Any zoo breeding animals including elephants should have the ability to have naturally breeding male candidates.A little Classical Drama (Roman or Greek) never hurt anyone.
Well, first and foremost ... do away with the AI and do some natural breeding with their bull for a change.....! I wish that natural breeding would take a front seat and AI and assisted reproduction only came into view if and when the natural breeding or social structure is not there ...
Aw I hope that darn new vaccine will work. We need much less eehv deaths than there were in the past.Both Kabir and Sanjay at Cincinnati have tested positive for EEHV.
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I'd say this is very promising news indeed! It's unrealistic to expect that a vaccine may 100% prevent an animal from getting the virus at all, but it preventing the symptoms from advancing/becoming lethal is just as much of a success!Hm, this is probably the first time that anyone has said this, but this is very interesting news.
AFAIK, these are the first vaccinated animals still in the danger age to have a herpes flare up, so it will be very interesting to see how they handle the virus as it runs its course. Massive fingers crossed that they do well and survive just fine!
Edit: Just read the post on the zoo's website, as opposed to just the facebook post. Sanjay tested positive over a MONTH ago! Considering he has survived for OVER a month since his initial flare up, it would seem the vaccinations and other proactive treatments are indeed working as hoped![]()