North American Asian Elephant Population 2025

So probably their current enclosure by the monorail is not bull proof if you're referring to a much older habitat.
They had Hank on the monorail, that's where Astor was born.

In 1981, the facility welcomed the only Asian elephant ever born in New York. “We had four elephants who grew up at the Bronx Zoo but the male only showed an interest in breeding with one female,” Doherty mentioned.

Research and deductive reasoning are your best friend, don't take everything at face value.

https://www.zoophoria.net/single-po...herty-former-general-curator-of-the-bronx-zoo
 
Nope, the very same Hank as the one living in Tulsa today, he arrived from Bush garden's in 1989 and lived there until 1993
What a very interesting piece of history. Did they ever hold full grown bulls. They need the strongest fencing if I'm not mistaken, maybe even more than younger adolescent males, which can be very energetic.
 
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What a very interesting piece of history. Did they ever hold full grown bulls. They need the strongest fencing if I'm not mistaken, maybe even more than teenage males.
My mistake - Groucho was on the monorail, and he was Astor's father. Unsure about Hank, I doubt he was in the *old* old elephant exhibit.

That being said, Groucho was a fully grown bull then, the fencing is more than satisfactory. It's an I-beam structure, which has been used in other facilities with bulls (Werribee Open Range Zoo has I-beam fencing, albeit a thinner I-beam than Bronx).

Again, deductive reasoning.
 
My mistake - Groucho was on the monorail, and he was Astor's father. Unsure about Hank, I doubt he was in the *old* old elephant exhibit.

That being said, Groucho was a fully grown bull then, the fencing is more than satisfactory. It's an I-beam structure, which has been used in other facilities with bulls (Werribee Open Range Zoo has I-beam fencing, albeit a thinner I-beam than Bronx).

Again, deductive reasoning.
I know that there some elephant facilities with males that have used I beam fancing and generally thinner but sturdy fenceposts. I see Los Angeles Denver and Oregon use thin cylindrical fencing and they have held mature Asian bulls more than all right. I saw st louis has an enclosure with I beam barriers and they should totally withstand Raja, who's 32 now, and other future bulls to arrive. There are tons of African holders with thinner but sturdier posts or I Beams for bulls. Basically I don't think bull elephants need very thick barriers as long as they don't budge or break if they were to pull or ram them.
 
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My mistake - Groucho was on the monorail, and he was Astor's father. Unsure about Hank, I doubt he was in the *old* old elephant exhibit.

That being said, Groucho was a fully grown bull then, the fencing is more than satisfactory. It's an I-beam structure, which has been used in other facilities with bulls (Werribee Open Range Zoo has I-beam fencing, albeit a thinner I-beam than Bronx).

Again, deductive reasoning.
Groucho left Bronx before Hank so it's reasonable to assume Hank was displayed in the Monorail complex alongside Patti and Maxine following his arrival in 1989.
 
hank had a stillborn calf himself. Somewhere. In NY or Arkansas. Man. I need to refresh my memory. I have had so much on my mind lately.

Hank's stillborn calf was born in 2003 at Riddles in Arkansas. Both calf and mother perished during the labour.

Something I've always wondered - does anyone know how this calf was conceived? I know he has long been considered a behavioural non-breeder, but that he has sired at least one calf through AI. Was this calf through AI as well?
 
Hank's stillborn calf was born in 2003 at Riddles in Arkansas. Both calf and mother perished during the labour.

Something I've always wondered - does anyone know how this calf was conceived? I know he has long been considered a behavioural non-breeder, but that he has sired at least one calf through AI. Was this calf through AI as well?
No it was naturally conceived - Hank resided at the same facility prior to his transfer to Columbus.
 
Huh, interesting. Thank you! I knew he came directly from Riddles to Columbus. I wonder why he stopped breeding naturally then if he had done so previously with success? I guess they really do have minds of their own... lol.

I remember it was said that he was overweight when he first arrived to Columbus and that hindered breeding but he was put on diet and loss weight, so it probably was him losing interest I guess
 
I think it is bull proof. That is why I think they should have a small bachelor herd there. They just need to update the fencing (using more pipes with the cable and reinforce the wood fence).
Are there facilities that were initially able to hold only cows then had reinforced the barriers later on as a bull arrived? I'm always thought bull proofing an existing elephant habitat would be time consuming but I guess it depends how it was built. I know hogle phased out their african elephants last year bc it would take too long to make the facility durable for bulls when one of the cows was ready to breed
 
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I spoke to an elephant keeper at the Dallas zoo when I visited the other day. He said the current new vaccine is specifically for a strain on Asian Elephant. Do you know if that's true?

The vaccine is currently mono-valent: EEHV1A, which tends to be the more lethal strain in Asian Elephants. EEHV3 tends to be the more lethal strain in African elephants.

There is some level of elephant species specificity with the virus, where it is predominately found:
EEHV1, Asian species
EEHV1A, Asian species
EEHV1B, Asian species
EEHV2, African species
EEHV3, Asian and African species
EEHV4, Asian species
EEHV5, Asian species
EEHV6, African species
 
The vaccine is currently mono-valent: EEHV1A, which tends to be the more lethal strain in Asian Elephants. EEHV3 tends to be the more lethal strain in African elephants.

There is some level of elephant species specificity with the virus, where it is predominately found:
EEHV1, Asian species
EEHV1A, Asian species
EEHV1B, Asian species
EEHV2, African species
EEHV3, Asian and African species
EEHV4, Asian species
EEHV5, Asian species
EEHV6, African species
I know historically there were a lot more Asian deaths from EEHV until the end of the last decade, which is part of why many zoos stopped having African and asian elephants coexisting in the same habitat. There have been African babies dying from it in recent years yes, but more or adolescent ones seem to have dealt with more effectively through good medical treatment and the mortality rate with African calves has still been significantly lower than Asians.
 
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