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Corangurilla said:
I’m kind of glad that the sloth isn’t a habitat animal for two reasons:
A) They don’t really do much, and if enough people think that the Koala is unrealistic because it’s active, imagine the outcry over this hypothetical sloth.
B) You know how a lot of PZ players hate tortoises because of how slow they are? Like, “they’ll die of thirst on their way to get a drink” slow? Well imagine that but EVEN SLOWER, with the added bonus of having to come down from a tree or climbing structure to get to the water source on the ground.
I guess sloths were always a “damned if they do them, dammed if they don’t” type animal, but I guess that comes with the territory of being named after a sin :p.
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You put forward very good points! I ultimately agree that having it as an exhibit animal makes the most sense, but I just hope it can be combined with other species. Birds and tamarins/marmosets would be excellent to house with it.
 
I would have loved to see a purely Malagasy pack with:
1. Fossa
2. Crowned or Coquerels sifaka
3. Blue-eyed black lemur
4. Ploughshare tortoise
5. Parsons Chameleon as an exhibit animal

I'm not unhappy with the tropical pack; the fossa and river hog being very welcome additions. I'd say that I'm indifferent, rather than annoyed by the other options.
 
Great Argus said:
Eh, pretty meh pack for me. We're already pretty heavy on tropical species and there are other species I would have liked to see more. I do like the Fossa, but would have rather seen it in an Islands pack. Sloth is nice, but why did it have to be three-toed? Asian Water Monitor is just a disappointment, that slot could have gone to King Cobra, a chameleon, a gecko, even a large habitat aquatic turtle... instead we got our second semi-aquatic monitor.

The clamor for birds, Tassie Devil, islands and highlands packs goes on...
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I ESPECIALLY think that a large freshwater turtle would have been an excellent decision. Something like an Arrau river turtle or painted river turtle would have been excellent choices, and they may have even been able to share their exhibits with crocodilians! The Asian water monitor is a bit of a missed opportunity, if you ask me...
 
TNT said:
I would have loved to see a purely Malagasy pack with:
1. Fossa
2. Crowned or Coquerels sifaka
3. Blue-eyed black lemur
4. Ploughshare tortoise
5. Parsons Chameleon as an exhibit animal

I'm not unhappy with the tropical pack; the fossa and river hog being very welcome additions. I'd say that I'm indifferent, rather than annoyed by the other options.
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This could have also been a great pack! Though I'd personally prefer the aye-aye to the blue-eyed black lemur.
 
Yes I do feel as if the game needs a few more species from Madagascar including the Aye-Aye, Alaotran Gentle Lemur a couple of other Lemur species, Malagasy Giant Rat, Radiated Tortoise, Ploughshare Tortoise, Panther Chameleon, Madagascar Day Gecko, Tomato Frog etc.

I am pleased that the Fossa has finally been added as it was highly requested for a good while now.
 
This is a mid pack but I somehow do not feel underwhelmed probably because I learned that things I desire won’t come anytime soon. I either know that things I want won’t ever happen (fixing the Malayan tapir or getting some animals I like) or won’t happen anytime soon (aviary birds and short-beaked echidna)
 
TNT said:
I would have loved to see a purely Malagasy pack with:
1. Fossa
2. Crowned or Coquerels sifaka
3. Blue-eyed black lemur
4. Ploughshare tortoise
5. Parsons Chameleon as an exhibit animal

I'm not unhappy with the tropical pack; the fossa and river hog being very welcome additions. I'd say that I'm indifferent, rather than annoyed by the other options.
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It would be better to make Malagasy pack a species pack with 7+1 species, I don't think we need a scenery pack for Malagasy architecture.
1. Parson's Chameleon (exhibit animal)
2.Radiated Tortoise
3.Madagascar Ibis
4.Malagasy Giant Rat
5.Coquerels Sifaka
6.Blue-eyed Black Lemur
7.Aye Aye
8.Fossa

@Great Argus @JigerofLemuria Also we miss another opportunity of getting giant snakes like Reticulated Python or Green Anaconda...Lazy Frontier
 
Corangurilla said:
How is that “lazy”?
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Well, forget about it, just a joke. The Asian Water Monitor looks like the cloning species of Nile Monitor, I just feel that many other species should be in priority, like giant freshwater turtles, giant snakes and tropical birds (since Frontier like to clone species, using model of Peafowl to make Congo Peafowl would be nice:p)
 
The only good part about having the Asian monitor in the game is to recreate the penthouse from Jessie

I would have done this

1. Red river hog (KEEP) well needed animal
2. Fossa - save for an islands pack. Replace with ocelot or other small carnivore
3. Asian water monitor - swap for a bird species of some sort. Maybe a shoebill?
4. White handed gibbon - we all ready have siamangs, so I'd switch out for a neotropical primate since we are lacking in those, such as a spider or squirrel monkey
5. Three toed sloth - Switch with two toed, or better yet switch for a tropical aviary with smaller jungle birds like aracaris, tanagers, finches, and lovebirds.
 
I’m clearly the minority here but I prefer three toed sloths. Albeit not as appropriate, they are a far more attractive species imo, and we are all aware they are more uncommon in zoos. At least you guys have sloth in your region…
 
ifesbob said:
I understand the realism, but I fail to see the practical difference between the two in terms of what you do with them (in real life their could be a behavioral difference I'm unaware of that is significant, but this is a video game), or that you could just pretend it's a two-toed. I get the "appease the camp that cares" thing, but.... a sloth is a sloth, in terms of what it does, unless you're really in the weeds of the behavior/needs of a specific species in a way, as far as I know, you don't need to be in Planet Zoo.
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I think largely because one is a synonymous zoo animal and the other is not, and this is a zoo game. But this paragraph sums it well from the forum:

Breeding programs for some threatened species have been successful. However, three-toed sloths are very difficult to maintain in captivity. They often do not survive, nor reproduce. For years, many have tried to maintain them artificially outside the Tropics, and nearly all have failed. According to Dr. Jutta Heuer, from Halle Zoo, Germany, one of the world experts in sloth husbandry in Europe, there is little to no experience with keeping, breeding and feeding three-toed sloths in captivity.

“A modern and serious zoo should never bring wild animals in without knowing this basic information. As studbook keeper for two-toed sloths in Europe I can say that because of ignorance and lack of experiences from zoos, a lot of sloths paid with their lives in the past,” says Heuer.

Recently, the Dallas World Aquarium has been able to maintain a small population of three brown-throated three-toed sloth (Bradypus variegatus) – another sloth species that is not endangered – by providing fresh Cecropia leaves to them flown in from Hawaii. But these three animals are the only ones which survived out of the nine sloths Dallas Aquarium imported from Venezuela and Costa Rica in the past 15 years. The only baby sloth born in captivity died 7 months later and had been conceived in the wild.'

Comes from this article: https://news.mongabay.com/2013/09/a...hs-sets-off-international-incident-in-panama/

I just think the whole idea is silly when the two-toed is right there. A staple of zoos across the world, extremely common. And they choose the species that’s held in one zoo outside of rescues in South America, and basically just dies in zoos in real life because they aren’t adapted to living in zoos. If anything, it’s just recklessly promoting the demand for three-toed sloths in captivity, which will only lead to more demand for wild individuals to be imported as ‘test beds’ for captive populations…
 
PaddyRickMFZ said:
I’m clearly the minority here but I prefer three toed sloths. Albeit not as appropriate, they are a far more attractive species imo, and we are all aware they are more uncommon in zoos. At least you guys have sloth in your region…
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more attractive?!
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My concept for a Malagasy pack would be:

1. Aye-Aye
2. Coquerel’s Sifaka
3. Radiated Tortoise
4. Bernier’s Teal
5. Madagascar Giant Day Gecko
 
If they are going back to regional packs I hope they do somewhere in South America because the South American roster is currently very dire. Seriously, only ONE new world monkey?
 
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