Port Lympne Wild Animal Park Port Lympne 2011

Javan Rhino said:
I would say that Javan rhinos could be successful, and we have to remember that PL would have had better success with Sumatran rhino had they had better specimens - from what I hear they were the first to crack the husbandry of the species.
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Yes they were only 'unsuccessful' with the Sumatrans as far as breeding was concerned and that was quite probably simply because of the condition/age of both females they were allocated. They maintained them in good health(the male at least) over a number of years. But I think their perceived 'failure' with them- even if not their fault- may be sufficient to preclude them ever having Javans- but who knows?;)
 
I think it would be too much of a risk - if just one animal captured died in transit or before leaving, the recipient zoo would be blamed, I think very publicly. I think in situ captive breeding would first need to be shown to be successful, with a husbandry protocol that works and can be applied identically ex situ. But exporting directly wild-caught stock would be politically risky and ethically questionable.
 
johnstoni. said:
But exporting directly wild-caught stock would be politically risky and ethically questionable.
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I tend increasingly to agree- bringing an 'untried' species like this to a cold Northern climate and an entirely different diet and surroudings etc would seem not the way to go with something so numerically rare as this species.

And before anyone picks up the wrong idea, there is only a discussion of a hypothetical situation.;)
 
Pertinax said:
I tend increasingly to agree- bringing an 'untried' species like this to a cold Northern climate and an entirely different diet and surroudings etc would seem not the way to go with something so numerically rare as this species.

And before anyone picks up the wrong idea, there is only a discussion of a hypothetical situation.;)
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To underline: it has been a tried species. Nonetheless, I am sure no-one involved in the conservation efforts for Javan Javan rhinos (this also includes JAF) will support any ex situ work with the species. It is incidentally also not part of the current conservation plan (for those more interested).

As to general news on PL: any new tidings?
 
2:0 Cheetah (named Moshi and Sifiso) have arrived from Africa Alive recently.
 
What happened to the two original cheetahs nescio and fundi they arrived a couple of years ago to PL ??
 
Pertinax said:
You can see the moment the mother becomes aware of the camera(or at least something 'alien') and backs away from it. Positive proof of recent breeding though which is good.

A few years ago it was rumoured Howletts or Port Lympne could get Javan Rhinos. However my guess would be that after being unsuccessful with the Sumatrans that they might be less willing to take them on. Though I suspect Javans may be no harder to keep/breed in captivity than their close relative the G.I. Rhino. But it would be taking a considerable risk for somewhere to prove that was the case.
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where can i find some infomation about this rumor?
 
^thanks:) but I am fully aware that it was likely never to happen, it was simply out of intrest:)
 
Out of interest it looks like Port Lympne have finally bred the red river hog. PL were the first UK collection to exhibit this species after the last animal died many years before (at another zoo - Dudley?), but had a non-breeding pair for many years. To the best of my knowledge, the old female died and was replaced by a Howletts-born animal, I'm wondering if the sire was the original old male or a more recent addition.
 
johnstoni. said:
To the best of my knowledge, the old female died and was replaced by a Howletts-born animal, I'm wondering if the sire was the original old male or a more recent addition.
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I thought it was the other way around- the one that died was the old male- so they still had the old female and a new young male from Howletts- I could be wrong though I seem to remember that's how it was when I saw last them. In which case maybe the female has since died and also been replaced by one from Howletts? Or is it the original female that has bred? It was interesting that despite being, along with Belfast, the first to import them, they then kept the old pair together many years but never tried changing, or adding extra partners to encourage breeding- until after one of them died.

Prior to the 1990's Red River Hog invasion of the UK, the last one would have been at either Dudley or Paignton, who exhibited one each in the 1960's.
 
Milo the Barbary Male Lion at the top of the park has been paired up with a female.
Does anyone know if this female is from another zoo or whether it was a female already at the park??

GB
 
GorillaBoy said:
Milo the Barbary Male Lion at the top of the park has been paired up with a female.
Does anyone know if this female is from another zoo or whether it was a female already at the park??

GB
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It said in one of their previous news bulletins that a female would be arriving in the Autumn from elsewhere in Europe as a partner for him. Presumably that is what has happened. I'm thinking it could be from Madrid as theirs are less related to the PL stock.
 
GorillaBoy said:
Lets hope there is some Barbary Lion cubs running about soon :)
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I am a bit mystified by their current policy with these Lions- they castrated Milo's father so they couldn't have any more cubs after the litter Milo was in. Now it seems likely they will breed from Milo and his new partner- unless she's been brought in just for companionship. .:confused:
 
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Johnny Morris. said:
Is Milo the lion with the dodgy leg?
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No, that is a female 'Samira'. She was the first(?) offspring from the same parents though, so an older sister to Milo. Milo was one of three(2.1) cubs of the last litter they had. His brother is now at Hanover Zoo, and the sister is/was still at PL with the parents.
 
Pertinax said:
No, that is a female 'Samira'. She was the first(?) offspring from the same parents though, so an older sister to Milo. Milo was one of three(2.1) cubs of the last litter they had. His brother is now at Hanover Zoo, and the sister is/was still at PL with the parents.
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Ah, thanks Pertinax.
 
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