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Jordan-Jaguar97

Jordan-Jaguar97

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To start off a new thread with abit of old news really(sorry if this has been mentioned)


A Black Rhino has been born to Vuyu gave birth to a female calf named Nyota.
And twin Margay's have been born to Ququm.
 
jordan-12 said:
To start off a new thread with abit of old news really(sorry if this has been mentioned)


A Black Rhino has been born to Vuyu gave birth to a female calf named Nyota.
And twin Margay's have been born to Ququm.
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This news is a year out-of-date ... :eek:
 
A new story up on the site about the tapirs NOT news of a calf however:

Valentine's Day | Tapir Breeding | Port Lympne Wild Animal Park

I find it interesting that they have not had a successful birth for five years. I am fairly certain at least one calf has been born in this period but obviously hasn't survived. It feels so recent that Port Lympne was rearing calves, time really does fly sometimes.

Does anyone know if the original RSCC pair (which I strongly suspect were the pair kept at Howletts a couple of years ago) returned to Port Lympne or did they go elsewhere? It was suggested on here that the male was quite old....

Does anyone know the age of Daeng, the male mentioned in the article who was recently sent to Madrid?
 
Didn't the RSCC have two pairs over the course of its time keeping this species (although never more than one pair at a time)?

I thought the first pair they had belonged to the JAF, and were returned after the alleged dispute between the two organisations. I was under the impression that the RSCC then acquired at least one of the recent calves born at Edinburgh, until they had a new, younger pair. These AFAIK were the ones that left for Prague.
 
I have just found out that the first RSCC tapirs were indeed from Howletts, they were Kingut and Malacca. Malacca is now one of the females being run with Hunter at Port Lympne, and I assume Kingut either went elsewhere or is in fact the older male Kasih who died back at Port Lympne in 2008.

I've just also realised Daeng, whom the article says was recently sent to Madrid, was the breeding male at PL for many years, and one of the 2.2 imported from Singapore. The JAF website says that Port Lympne have had eight successful Malayan tapir births at Port Lympne, 3.3 of these to Daeng and Lidana (who was also born there, making seven births accounted for). Tengui, a female, was Lidana's last calf, born in 2006. Copasih, a male, was born in 2008 to one of Lidana's calves, 1998-born Lidaeng and was the first 3rd generation birth at PL. I believe his father was called Kasih, and that this male died in 2008. I also believe Copasih was sent to Leipzig last year.

I believe these to be the current PL tapirs:

F Istana - 4,5 years old, unsure of birthplace
F Tengui - Born PL 2006
M Hunter - Born London 2009
F Lidana - Born PL 1989 (has had six calves, including Tengui, Malacca and Lindaeng).
F Malacca - Born 2000 at PL *I think this was the 2000 calf born there*
F Lidaeng - Born 1998 at PL, has had one calf (M - Copasih - left for Leipzig in 2010).

So, I am assuming that the 1980's Howlett's animals moved to Port Lympne (they were kept in the orchard paddock, now a car park), and didn't breed (previously PL only had South American tapir). I am also assuming that the 2.2 imported from Singapore were housed in the Sumatran rhinoceros complex from their arrival (a) to be quarantined and (b) because I saw Malayan tapir signage here very soon after the complex opened. There was still at least one Malayan tapir in the orchard paddock until the late 90's.

I would be interested to know:

(1) Whether 'Kingut' who originally went to the RSCC was actually the old male 'Kasih' who died in 2008 at PL, and if this animal was the other male who arrived with Daeng and two females from singapore around 1988.
(2) Whether any of the other tapirs imported from Singapore are still alive, or if Daeng (the breeding male for the last 10-15 years) is the only surviving animal from this import.

It is clear that the breeding programme at PL has relied upon one very prolific pair producing young with a good survival rate. Now that the older, breeding male has been sent to Madrid, it looks as if hopes of restarting breeding at PL rest on the London-born male.
 
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The 1991 'Help' Newsletter lists 1.4 including 0.1 on loan from Marwell . The 1992 newletter notes the arrival of the 2.2 from Indonesia , giving the total at 30.09.92 of 3.6 . The older imported male died January 1993 , also now 0.2 on loan from Marwell - I think the Marwell female did breed at P.L. The oldest pair died in 1994 , marwell loan back down to 0.1 and a total of 1.4 on 30.09.1994 .
 
thank you...

When Lidana was born in 1989, there were 1.2 adults, making 1.3.
If a female was loaned from Marwell, that would make the 1.4 present in 1991.

I now believe that both the male Kingut (Kasih?) who was loaned to the RSCC, was the surviving male from the 2.2 imported from Singapore. Neofelis (assumed from the RSCC) posted in older threads that Kingut had a problem with his back legs and therefore had never bred. Given this, and the fact that the other male imported from Indonesia died, it would make sense that Port Lympne would have continued to search for a suitable breeding male.

I am now assuming that Daeng arrived as a single animal, from Singapore, slightly later than the Indonesian import. I wonder when he arrived?

It is interesting to me that, out of the 2.2 imported from Indonesia, one male died without breeding, another male had rear leg problems preventing him from breeding, and neither of the two females bred. The female that did kick-start the PL breeding programme, Lidana, was already of breeding age when the Indonesian tapirs arrived, and began breeding once Daeng arrived.

From what I can tell, no Marwell females gave birth successfully at Port Lympne. However, one Marwell calf was raised sucessfully back at Marwell around the early 90s, perhaps sired at Port Lympne?
 
Back to 'Help' newsletters , in 1995 female Susan died . In 1997 the female on loan from Marwell was returned and a 4.5 year old male arrived from Singapore in June - I assume this was Daeng and that he was captive-bred . Stock at 30.09.1997 is 2.2 .

A female was born in October 1998 to Daeng and Lidana , 10 years after the birth of Lidana , but she died at 7 weeks of respiratory disease . Female Lidaeng was born to the same pair in January 2000 , she survived early respiratory problems . Male Langkawi was born 25th July 2001 , again to the same pair , stock at 30.09.2001 now 3.3 . In 2002 elderly non-breeding female Bani was treated for growths in her mouth .

Unfortunately I think no. 24 was the last Help published . I am fortunate to have the full set , a useful history of the 2 collections .

I reckon that the stock of 3.3 in 2002 was - males - non-breeding wild-caught name not known , breeder Daeng , young Langkawi . Females - non-breeding Bani , breeder Lidana , her calf Lidaeng .
 
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Kingut the tapir was still at PL in December, aged 18 according to a news article: KINGUT the tapir has got things about right. He burrows so deeply into his thick bed, keepers sometimes struggle to see more than his face. The 18-year-old and his companions have the option, unless the weather is very bad, of wandering round a cover
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Thanks, that's interesting, and confirms both Malayan tapirs went to Port Lympne after leaving the RSCC, and that it was the Edinburgh calf and one other that the RSCC sent to Prague. On checking ISIS it confirms there are 2.4 not 1.5 Malayan tapirs at PL also.

My earlier listing of 'Istana' was from a number of articles generated by a press release last summer, here's on of those:
Tapirs in Kent get Suncream - News - Heart Kent

Given that Kingut is still at PL, meaning there are 2 males, I actually suspect 'Istana' is 'Tengui', as they are the same age, unless a tapir by the name of Istana has left PL/died since last June.

So Kingut is not the same animal as Kasih (who died in 2008 and fathered Cobasih, who was born in 2008). If one of the original males from the Indonesian import died soon after arrival, Kasih must have arrived from elsewhere, or have been a very old male from the pre-sumatran rhino complex days, though I doubt he was Lidana's father, as he was allowed to sire a calf by her daughter.
 
Bele said:
Back to 'Help' newsletters , in 1995 female Susan died . In 1997 the female on loan from Marwell was returned and a 4.5 year old male arrived from Singapore in June - I assume this was Daeng and that he was captive-bred . Stock at 30.09.1997 is 2.2 .

A female was born in October 1998 to Daeng and Lidana , 10 years after the birth of Lidana , but she died at 7 weeks of respiratory disease . Female Lidaeng was born to the same pair in January 2000 , she survived early respiratory problems . Male Langkawi was born 25th July 2001 , again to the same pair , stock at 30.09.2001 now 3.3 . In 2002 elderly non-breeding female Bani was treated for growths in her mouth .

Unfortunately I think no. 24 was the last Help published . I am fortunate to have the full set , a useful history of the 2 collections .

I reckon that the stock of 3.3 in 2002 was - males - non-breeding wild-caught name not known , breeder Daeng , young Langkawi . Females - non-breeding Bani , breeder Lidana , her calf Lidaeng .
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thats amazing, thank you. Given there were 2.2 in 1997, I guess one of the Indonesian females must have either died or left the park between then and her arrival back in 1992. I would assume the other female in the 2.2 other than Lindana was Bani, who could have been one of the Indonesian four, and that the males were newly-arrived Daeng, and Kingut who had arrived in 1992.

Kasih most likely arrived after 2002 to provide a breeding male for Lidana's daughters, and sadly died after siring one calf with Lidaeng. I'm guessing they've retired Lidana from breeding and therefore moved Daeng onto Madrid as the only females he would be able to breed with at PL are his three daughters. I understand therefore why PL only replaced Kasih and Daeng with one new male, Hunter.

I imagine the third female the park plan to introduce Hunter to would therefore be Tengui, given that he is already rotated between Malacca and Lidaeng. Possibly Lidana and Kingut are retired and are kept together, I must visit at some point this year to see.
 
Ok, that's interesting. Well possibly 4-year old Istana is the fourth female then, meaning all the females at the park are of breeding age. I read a post from Al on this forum in 2008 suggesting two of the females there at the time were not able to breed, that one young female had a blood condition and the other was nervous of other tapirs. It's possible one of these was Istana, which might indicate why the 'valentine's day' tapir article on the PL website mentions there are only plans to introduce Hunter to one other female tapir besides Malacca and Lidaeng. I assume this would be Tengui....
 
A bit more information noted from episodes of Roar - Kasih was 6years old when he died of tetanus in 2007 after successfully mating with Lidaeng ( might he have been exchanged for Langkawi ? ) . Male Kopash was born to Lidaeng in 2008 - what happened to him ?

In 2008 wild-caught 16-year old male Kingut was in the woods with 6-year old Malacca whilst Daeng was with female Istana , Lidana was on her own . This would suggest that Kingut is not one of the original males but a more recent arrival .
 
From EAZA Yearbook covering the 2 years 2007/2008 . Howletts had 1.2 at start , a pair left , think this is the pair to RSCC , leaving 0.1 at end of 2008 .

Port Lympne had 2.4 at start , a male died - Kasih , and a male was born Copasih to Lidaeng . A pair arrived from other EAZA collections ( not certain of this is the RSCC pair as they are marked as being non-EAZA ) .

RSCC report the receipt and departure of a pair from a non-EAZA collection , this would be the old Howletts pair . Then a male arrived , not certain about him , think it was a female that came form Edinburgh .
 
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