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my doubt is about the likelihood of open days.Rare Species Conservation Centre RSCC animal transfers and general news
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Oh, I know they are expanding and constructing
my doubt is about the likelihood of open days.
uszoo
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Oh, I know they are expanding and constructing
- They said they are building elevated boardwalks so the public will most likely be allowed as it makes no sense to spend so much money on boardwalks for just keepers.
sooty mangabey
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Regular RSCC watchers will know that there's a great deal about what they do that "makes no sense"; this is part of what makes the place so very interesting!
Dear All,
RSCC is clearly not a Zoo attraction, but It would be best not to second guess what they are up to. The facility clearly is expanding and massively improving, it would be best to support and not pre judge what will happen!
There is space for all kinds of zoological facilities and RSCC is not an attraction - in some ways it operates differently and is somewhat unique, it doesn't intend to be a zoo attraction - sadly that is what the general public have pushed most zoos to become, often having to move away from what matters to them in order to bring in funds.... There are no playgrounds, hotdog stands or amusements, nor do they bring in a new species to have the latest attraction. It is a facility that specialises in keeping and breeding rare and unusual animals many of which are seldom seen in captivity. It is a privately funded charity and will continue to be so. Perhaps the only visitors that are actually interested in seeing the non charismatic species these days are zoo chatters - this is a shame but at least RSCC is helping to fill a void.
RSCC will reopen to the public and will continue to focus on the core species it keeps and will create new breeding programs for other neglected or unrepresented species it feels are needed. There are various new species which will be onsite when reopened. The future focus will still be captive breeding, research and in situ conservation. Albeit with better and larger facilities so that the animals will thrive.
I hope that helps with speculation.
RSCC is clearly not a Zoo attraction, but It would be best not to second guess what they are up to. The facility clearly is expanding and massively improving, it would be best to support and not pre judge what will happen!
There is space for all kinds of zoological facilities and RSCC is not an attraction - in some ways it operates differently and is somewhat unique, it doesn't intend to be a zoo attraction - sadly that is what the general public have pushed most zoos to become, often having to move away from what matters to them in order to bring in funds.... There are no playgrounds, hotdog stands or amusements, nor do they bring in a new species to have the latest attraction. It is a facility that specialises in keeping and breeding rare and unusual animals many of which are seldom seen in captivity. It is a privately funded charity and will continue to be so. Perhaps the only visitors that are actually interested in seeing the non charismatic species these days are zoo chatters - this is a shame but at least RSCC is helping to fill a void.
RSCC will reopen to the public and will continue to focus on the core species it keeps and will create new breeding programs for other neglected or unrepresented species it feels are needed. There are various new species which will be onsite when reopened. The future focus will still be captive breeding, research and in situ conservation. Albeit with better and larger facilities so that the animals will thrive.
I hope that helps with speculation.
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Indeed
hence my note of caution and assertion that whatever happens when it happens. At the end of the day, the important thing is the captive breeding, research and so forth - open days are a happy bonus which I do hope happen.
Jordan-Jaguar97
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Be great if it does happen, Tarsier would certainly interest myself as well as many others I'm sure.
Bib Fortuna
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Sounds great to me. How they are keep the Tarsiers, in an nocturnal exhibit ? If not, it won't be possible to see them during the day.
zoogiraffe
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I suspect that once the Centre re-opens the Tarsier will be off-show!
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Zootierliste lists the following animals at RSCC: African civet*; banded palm civet*; bear cuscus*; Bengal Slow Loris; North Chinese Leopard; Spotted fanaloka (Malagasy civet)*;
Fishing cat; Fossa; Golden-headed tamarin (Gold-and-black lion tamarin); Indochinese clouded leopard; Indochinese smooth-coated otter*; Cotton-top tamarin (White-plumed tamarin) (Pinche); Maned wolf; Mindanao rufous hornbill*; Northern bamboo lemur*;
Northern yellow-throated marten; Narrow-striped mongoose; Eastern aardwolf; Eastern ring-tailed mongoose; Palawan Binturong*; Potto (Bosman's Potto); Roseate spoonbill; Red flamingo (Caribbean flamingo); Red ruffed lemur; Black Saki (Red-backed saki) (Red-backed bearded saki)*; Bearded emperor tamarin; Red and White Giant Flying Squirrel*;
Scarlet ibis; Silvery marmoset; Peking robin (Red-billed leiothrix); Callimico (Goeldi's monkey) (Goeldi's marmoset); Sri Lankan rusty-spotted cat; Eastern tarsier (Sulawesi tarsier)*; Bush dog (Savannah dog); Western Fat-tailed dwarf lemur (Lesser dwarf lemur); Pygmy slow loris
It's a rather eclectic list - some of the animals are fairly common in zoos and there are a few I've never seen before and some I haven't seen for many years. I especially want to see the bear cuscus and banded palm civet. The bear cuscus is an example of an Asian marsupial and, despite having read several books about mammals, very few say there are marsupials in Asia. It is also a long time since I saw a giant flying squirrel or a tarsier.
Zootierrliste says that RSCC is the only European zoo having the following animals: banded palm civet, bear cuscus, spotted fanaloka, Mindanao rufous hornbill, eastern tarsier.
Fishing cat; Fossa; Golden-headed tamarin (Gold-and-black lion tamarin); Indochinese clouded leopard; Indochinese smooth-coated otter*; Cotton-top tamarin (White-plumed tamarin) (Pinche); Maned wolf; Mindanao rufous hornbill*; Northern bamboo lemur*;
Northern yellow-throated marten; Narrow-striped mongoose; Eastern aardwolf; Eastern ring-tailed mongoose; Palawan Binturong*; Potto (Bosman's Potto); Roseate spoonbill; Red flamingo (Caribbean flamingo); Red ruffed lemur; Black Saki (Red-backed saki) (Red-backed bearded saki)*; Bearded emperor tamarin; Red and White Giant Flying Squirrel*;
Scarlet ibis; Silvery marmoset; Peking robin (Red-billed leiothrix); Callimico (Goeldi's monkey) (Goeldi's marmoset); Sri Lankan rusty-spotted cat; Eastern tarsier (Sulawesi tarsier)*; Bush dog (Savannah dog); Western Fat-tailed dwarf lemur (Lesser dwarf lemur); Pygmy slow loris
It's a rather eclectic list - some of the animals are fairly common in zoos and there are a few I've never seen before and some I haven't seen for many years. I especially want to see the bear cuscus and banded palm civet. The bear cuscus is an example of an Asian marsupial and, despite having read several books about mammals, very few say there are marsupials in Asia. It is also a long time since I saw a giant flying squirrel or a tarsier.
Zootierrliste says that RSCC is the only European zoo having the following animals: banded palm civet, bear cuscus, spotted fanaloka, Mindanao rufous hornbill, eastern tarsier.
what are the asterisked species? Ones that are particularly rare in captivity, or ones that you particularly want to see?
I think they are the ones mentioned as the only ones of their type in Europe.
I think the asterisks on Zootierliste indicate that they are not held in Germany, only elsewhere in Europe, since at least 3 species asterisked are held in at least one (as many as 3 even in the case of one ) other Uk zoos.
I think Pipaluk's right. The asterisk system is a bit erratic. I think two asterisks refer to species that are not found in zoos catalogued by Zootierliste.
ah, I didn't realise you were using the Zootierliste's asterisk system, I thought you'd added them yourself to denote something. What they mean (remember the caecilian thread from ages ago?) from the FAQs:
"What means * and ** after the name of the species?
* means, no German holding is known ** means, no European holding is known, especially you will find it at former holdings"
Hello Chlidonias from sunny, hot London.
You are right about that. Zootierliste only lists species that have been found in zoos within its remit (mostly Europe). The ** rating includes species that are considered extinct, even though they were kept in zoos. I find this very sad, as I wonder how many of these animals could have been saved if the zoos had cared more about them. I read that keepers didn't give the kind of welfare that Benjamin, the last captive thylacine, needed, because zoo visitors were more bothered about seeing ABC animals like giraffes. Benjamin died in 1936, the same year in which the thylacine was added to the list of protected wildlife. So, while Benjamin lived alone, people were still able to kill thylacines, rather than trying to breed them in captivity. I wish RSCC all the best.
You are right about that. Zootierliste only lists species that have been found in zoos within its remit (mostly Europe). The ** rating includes species that are considered extinct, even though they were kept in zoos. I find this very sad, as I wonder how many of these animals could have been saved if the zoos had cared more about them. I read that keepers didn't give the kind of welfare that Benjamin, the last captive thylacine, needed, because zoo visitors were more bothered about seeing ABC animals like giraffes. Benjamin died in 1936, the same year in which the thylacine was added to the list of protected wildlife. So, while Benjamin lived alone, people were still able to kill thylacines, rather than trying to breed them in captivity. I wish RSCC all the best.
New pictures from their facebook page show a new MALAYAN TIGER!!!!! enclosure being built
Todd's really putting those new acres to good use then!
New pictures from their facebook page show a new MALAYAN TIGER!!!!! enclosure being built
Very interesting. After many years of none in the uk, are we about to have two holders within months?!
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