Sumatran Rhino news thread

99%? That seems exaggerated, but I understand your point.

Talk to anyone among your family, friends etc. and see how many will struggle with the most basic concept of zoological taxonomy, especially in regard to the terms "species", "subspecies", "genus" etc. And then throw in the term "race" to make it extra tricky for them. Unless you happen to have a family and a circle of friends full of zoology "geeks & nerds", you will see that this isn't much of an exaggeration, if at all.

I still think that more media attention (not necessarily a lot, but more) would be given to the extinction of an entire species of large mammal, especially if it's a "last animal alive dies" situation, rather than decades of waiting for another confirmed sighting before finally deciding that it's extinct.

For a day or maybe a week, there will be the usual moral and emotional mourning, moaning and misanthrophic condemnation of humanity. Then another topic, most likely a sporting event or the naked rear of an "actress" will soon demand public attention. The pressure on the rhinos will continue, most likely increase.

I don't know if the populations are "truly" self-sustainable. I do know that their captive populations are exponentially larger than that for the Sumatran rhino, which gives them a much better chance of becoming self-sustainable if they aren't already. And the captive breeding rates with those species currently, I believe, are higher than the rates have ever been for Sumatrans.
Higher numbers of specimens do not necessarily mean greater success, especially when many of them are overaged, infertile, unwilling to reproduce or not accessible. The numbers of breeding success are higher-but only relatively. Just because a tortoise is faster than a snail, it's still not a hare.
 
And a similar question:What's the difference between race and sub species?

I'm not going to post the "Let me Google that for you" link, as this might be considered unnecessarily offensive. Instead, I'll point you to the definitions of race as

a) Informal taxonomic rank
b) Social concept used in human classification
c) =^= breed in regard to domestic animals/plants (at least in some
languages)

;)
 
What are peoples opinions about cloning?

People always talk about after the northern white rhino goes extinct they might be able to clone it with all the tissue and stuff from ones in san diego zoo's frozen zoo.

Could this work for sumatran rhinos too?

By the way, just because I am saying this, it does not mean I think we should just stop everything and let people kill them all, I just think that hope might not all be lost.
 
As far as I know the IWZ (the Leibniz institue for zoo and wild animals) is working really hard to get some females pregnant sadly it isn't really working. Last year a korean cloner company was asking them for help because they wanted to bring a mamooth back to life. As far as I know the IWZ said that they could help them, but only if this company could help them cloning some sumatran rhinos.
I think at the moment that's the last hope for the borean, sumatran and nothern white rhino. And hopefully they can get some new sumatrans from the wild.
 
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This IS terrific news! Lets hope that the rhino will make it to adulthood and maybe even pass on it's genes...
 
What are peoples opinions about cloning?

People always talk about after the northern white rhino goes extinct they might be able to clone it with all the tissue and stuff from ones in san diego zoo's frozen zoo.

Could this work for sumatran rhinos too?

By the way, just because I am saying this, it does not mean I think we should just stop everything and let people kill them all, I just think that hope might not all be lost.

I'm pretty interested in the possibility of cloning animals for conservation purposes. Everyone talks about cloning extinct animals, but I wonder if cloning technology could be used to help out struggling extant species. Especially if DNA could be extracted from preserved specimens, they could bring back genes that no longer exist in the current population, thus improving genetic diversity. (a major issue for many endangered species) Though that kind of technology is a long way off, cloning is still so expensive and impractical.
 
I'm pretty interested in the possibility of cloning animals for conservation purposes. Everyone talks about cloning extinct animals, but I wonder if cloning technology could be used to help out struggling extant species. Especially if DNA could be extracted from preserved specimens, they could bring back genes that no longer exist in the current population, thus improving genetic diversity. (a major issue for many endangered species) Though that kind of technology is a long way off, cloning is still so expensive and impractical.

It would definately make more sense than trying to clone extinct species, but if you cannot safeguard the species habitat and it's safety against poaching in that habitat, it is still a waste of money.
 
Very sad news, Najaq the newly found rhino has died from a leg infection :(

Rare Rhino Dies Days After Her Rediscovery

You get good news, and then you get bad news....:(

The only good thing to come from this is that she has at least proved there are still some Rhinos in Kalimantan, and, provided it was indeed from an older injury rather than from the capture, that she didn't just die unknown in a forest somewhere.
 
I'm pretty interested in the possibility of cloning animals for conservation purposes. Everyone talks about cloning extinct animals, but I wonder if cloning technology could be used to help out struggling extant species. Especially if DNA could be extracted from preserved specimens, they could bring back genes that no longer exist in the current population, thus improving genetic diversity. (a major issue for many endangered species) Though that kind of technology is a long way off, cloning is still so expensive and impractical.

I've personally encountered cloned specimens of wild species. It kinda robbed me of the confidence in the merits of this procedure for conservation that Colin Tudge instilled in me in Last Animals at the Zoo ...
 
I've personally encountered cloned specimens of wild species. It kinda robbed me of the confidence in the merits of this procedure for conservation that Colin Tudge instilled in me in Last Animals at the Zoo ...


Too many health problems?
 
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